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a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/18/2009 12:36:21 AM

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Gypsy immigrant families flee Belfast as racist attacks rise.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8104287.stm

Yes, the article says Romanians and no doubt theyre from Romania but having met plenty of Romanians and seen plenty of east European Gypsies, I'd give it 6/5 theyre Gypsies.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/18/2009 1:14:28 AM

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Gypsies or not, they should still get the full protection of the law, which doesnt seem to have happened. I would have thought after all the sectarianism in Belfast that people would be more tolerant.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/18/2009 4:43:00 AM

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I saw that on the news yesterday too, and I was wondering then, the Irish must really be the most intolerant people in our isles. Just look at the history, recent years and beyond, persecution because of belief, nationality and whatever. The irish I always understood to be easy going, but that obviously is not the case as is being seen.

Perhaps it is their ancestry, even more of the celtic idea, a nation of brawlers who see any that come as invaders to be fought off. Maybe this latest group to be persecuted is just another excuse to get back to the old ways, best resigned to the past. But whatever descriptive word can be applied to those of that island, you can add intolerant, racist and sectarian to the mix. Those that oppose those words will do well to fight them where they stand. The world, and that includes Ireland is a world of migration, people have migrated away and to most parts of the world.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/18/2009 8:37:00 AM

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Aneirin, that happened in *Northern Ireland* in a Loyalist area not in the republic.
If it happened in England we couldn't say it happened in "Scotland" now could we?

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/18/2009 12:55:24 PM

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Piece of propaganda most likely. The Irish usually have good reason for attacks. A method to the madness so to speak.

The vid was short on details. I tend to doubt it was unprovoked.

...Ill run it past my buddy over there. He usually knows the scoop.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/18/2009 2:55:13 PM

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Piece of propaganda most likely. The Irish usually have good reason for attacks. A method to the madness so to speak.

......ye gods, do you lie awake at night coming up with foolish things to say?

Have you ever had to pick glass out of your hair because the IRA decided to bomb something? i have.
Go tell the good people of Omagh that the people who bombed them usually had a good reason.

Dyn twp.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/18/2009 5:28:29 PM

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The mostly likely reason for these attacks is the BNP influence among some loyalist youths.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 8:41:48 AM

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I sent the thread to my IE buddy- this was his reply to me:
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Yeah! one of them was right - its just a bunch of Loyalist Thugs in 1 housing estate in Northern Ireland Having said that - racism is rife in Loyalist area's where they see themselves as "Brothers in arms" of the UK's BNP - British Nationalist Party, who want an exclusively "White" UK! There's very little racism in the Republic od Ireland & where there is - its by ignorant thugs & is in no way organised

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 10:02:27 AM

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I sent the thread to my IE buddy- this was his reply to me:
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Yeah! one of them was right - its just a bunch of Loyalist Thugs in 1 housing estate in Northern Ireland Having said that - racism is rife in Loyalist area's where they see themselves as "Brothers in arms" of the UK's BNP - British Nationalist Party, who want an exclusively "White" UK! There's very little racism in the Republic od Ireland & where there is - its by ignorant thugs & is in no way organised

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....Eire is no more or less racist than anywhere else. With very few exceptions, racism is always the product of ignorant thugs.
You seem to have a set of rose coloured spectacles you wear while looking at Eire.
i'm still quite angry at you for that line where you appear to excuse Irish terrorism as being justified. Perhaps you'd care to clarify your position on that issue.......

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 10:07:12 AM

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Aneirin, that happened in *Northern Ireland* in a Loyalist area not in the republic.
If it happened in England we couldn't say it happened in "Scotland" now could we?

I second that.

We know who the culprits are, why are they being protected ?

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 10:20:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

I saw that on the news yesterday too, and I was wondering then, the Irish must really be the most intolerant people in our isles. Just look at the history, recent years and beyond, persecution because of belief, nationality and whatever. The irish I always understood to be easy going, but that obviously is not the case as is being seen.

Perhaps it is their ancestry, even more of the celtic idea, a nation of brawlers who see any that come as invaders to be fought off. Maybe this latest group to be persecuted is just another excuse to get back to the old ways, best resigned to the past. But whatever descriptive word can be applied to those of that island, you can add intolerant, racist and sectarian to the mix. Those that oppose those words will do well to fight them where they stand. The world, and that includes Ireland is a world of migration, people have migrated away and to most parts of the world.

The perpetrators here are not "Irish" they are "British" (ie they are worshippers of the crown and all it stands for), they do not identify with anything Irish and they wave the Union flag, Wake up and smell the dew, this is a VERY British problem, stop trying to fob it off elsewhere. I suppose the mainland Brits want to disown them for awhile ... so for now ... The Six Counties are suddenly "Irish" ... how very fucking convenient!

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 10:25:45 AM

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I sent the thread to my IE buddy- this was his reply to me:
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Yeah! one of them was right - its just a bunch of Loyalist Thugs in 1 housing estate in Northern Ireland Having said that - racism is rife in Loyalist area's where they see themselves as "Brothers in arms" of the UK's BNP - British Nationalist Party, who want an exclusively "White" UK! There's very little racism in the Republic od Ireland & where there is - its by ignorant thugs & is in no way organised

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....Eire is no more or less racist than anywhere else. With very few exceptions, racism is always the product of ignorant thugs.
You seem to have a set of rose coloured spectacles you wear while looking at Eire.
i'm still quite angry at you for that line where you appear to excuse Irish terrorism as being justified. Perhaps you'd care to clarify your position on that issue.......

Yes.   Ireland does not wish to remain a colony of the British Empire.    With any luck America too will re-escape the British Empire.

The ways of the east India company- ie Globalization, to enrich the 13 federal reserve banking families- most of whom do not live in America - those days are coming to a close.

The Royality should get over themselves.   We are not their subjects/slaves/inferiors.

In 1913, America -the grip of- which was re-instated- and thus returned the US to a "colony' of sorts.

The crown can suck my dick.

All people are created equal.

Ireland- does not consent to being a colony. They want local rule..local control.   And many states want the same thing.

Mercantilism is a scam. Throw in the Vatican, the Zionists- the wall street treasonous. and we have a serfdom, not a free land.   There are many players in this tangled quagmire.   Not limited to royalty alone.    The game is the same tho.

I support LOCAL governance.   LOCAL control.     Be it in Ireland, Oklahoma, the Lacota Nation, Alaska, or Iran.

The names may change but- the road to serftom and bowing down is something that I admire the Irish for abating/preventing.

The Good Friday accords might have been a start... but whom colonized whom?

Who was governed by consent?    The crown has no right to impose its will on the whole of the earth. (including nonwhite peoples)

....incidently- if you knew the details of my blood line- this statement would be quite shocking.

I have no qualms with the British people.       But the globalist merchantilism- eugenics-rothschilds-ism- needs to be stopped.

and stopped at any cost.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 10:26:51 AM

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There are always people outside of situations, situations that don't concern them seeing the romantic view. Inside the situation, it is often very different. No one deserves to be terrorised because a minority can't get their point across in a civilised manner. And the failure to get a point across by lawful means, basically indicates the majority are'nt interested. Going around bombing and killing in lieu of civilised action is much like a disgruntled um chucking their toys out of the cot. Interesting in that all the years the UK has suffered at the will of terrorist action, they still did'nt manage to get their point across.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 10:36:54 AM

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....in these fora you've made posts i've found interesting. You've also made posts i've found thought provoking. Some of your posts have been warm, humorous and, even, humane.

This last post was none of these. It was based on a profound misunderstanding of the situation there and hinted at paranoia.

You've attempted to justify terrorist attacks which killed people i know and destroyed the hopes of generations in both Eire and Ulster. You've done so by evoking the spectres of the Rothschild, the Crown, eugenics and Zionism.

Please get help.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 10:37:16 AM

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The crown can suck my dick.

I'd insist on a test for various contagious things before making that statement if I were you hunkboy, remember how much they "love horses"? (they even have royal names for their horses too, like ... "Camilla" ??, I'm told it smells like one too)

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 10:41:36 AM

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I have no qualms with the British people. But the globalist merchantilism- eugenics-rothschilds-ism- needs to be stopped.

and stopped at any cost.

What absurd notion makes you think these families are British ?

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 10:56:12 AM

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The perpetrators here are not "Irish" they are "British" (ie they are worshippers of the crown and all it stands for), they do not identify with anything Irish and they wave the Union flag, Wake up and smell the dew, this is a VERY British problem, stop trying to fob it off elsewhere. I suppose the mainland Brits want to disown them for awhile ... so for now ... The Six Counties are suddenly "Irish" ... how very fucking convenient!

Pirate

Surely you are not suggesting racism is only a protestant problem, or that no racism takes place in Eire ? Or suggesting Irishmen are somehow not "Irish" if they wish to stay part of the UK ?

They are Irish and are racist, like it or not. Thankfully the police have arrested a few of them today. The truth is the majority of people in Eire and the UK, from any religion, are not racist.

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 10:59:58 AM

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There are always people outside of situations, situations that don't concern them

In my opinion, this very much concerns me. Does it concern you?

Aneirin, you're dead right, after all the years of "suffering" at the hands of it's would be "subjects" the UK (which is a crown concept and historicaly VERY new) has NEVER managed to get it's point across, what price global domination eh ? Poor,poor UK. You'd have thought it's poor victims would be eternally grateful for what it did to further the wealth of a bunch of inbread retards with as much humanity as a housebrick (I guess that kisses goodbye to my free kebab come the coronation?) now wouldn't you? (answer yes to this question and confess by default to condoning genocide and terrorism historicaly perpetrated with abject distain by these creatures ... errr actually ... not so much BY them as under their "authority" ... they were always kinda busy and doing important things to get their hands dirty [too spineless] and do some killing)

Pirate

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 11:03:50 AM

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The perpetrators here are not "Irish" they are "British" (ie they are worshippers of the crown and all it stands for), they do not identify with anything Irish and they wave the Union flag, Wake up and smell the dew, this is a VERY British problem, stop trying to fob it off elsewhere. I suppose the mainland Brits want to disown them for awhile ... so for now ... The Six Counties are suddenly "Irish" ... how very fucking convenient!

Pirate

Surely you are not suggesting racism is only a protestant problem, or that no racism takes place in Eire ? Or suggesting Irishmen are somehow not "Irish" if they wish to stay part of the UK ?

They are Irish and are racist, like it or not. Thankfully the police have arrested a few of them today. The truth is the majority of people in Eire and the UK, from any religion, are not racist.

I never used the word "protestant" ... Seek your insight carefully ...

Pirate

(your quoting me loses the fact that my words were in direct response to another poster too, just for the sake of the audience)

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RE: a new form of terrorism for N Ireland - 6/19/2009 11:07:36 AM

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....in these fora you've made posts i've found interesting. You've also made posts i've found thought provoking. Some of your posts have been warm, humorous and, even, humane.

This last post was none of these. It was based on a profound misunderstanding of the situation there and hinted at paranoia.

You've attempted to justify terrorist attacks which killed people i know and destroyed the hopes of generations in both Eire and Ulster. You've done so by evoking the spectres of the Rothschild, the Crown, eugenics and Zionism.

Please get help.

With the problems in the world, I am fine. The world is the entity that needs help. I guess I am defiant. I criticize everything. I have even been kicked out Caesars Palace casino in Atlantic City. So- yes- the personality is flamboyant. But the deck is stacked- life is not fair- and the elite actually do want to wipe out the middle class.

It is possible that I misunderstand the native idiosyncrasies.

....in a crime- there is seldom just a victim. the victim did something to trigger the recourse.

For the most part- people go about life- mind their own business and things are fine.

...And lately I see how pathetic people in America are. Greedy- gluttony- evil-- self centered. ....We deserve what we are about to get. and when 300,ooo invade my town- open the FEMA camps. Lets not get me started.

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