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Sorry..I wasnt clear about that. It wasnt my son that needed the knee replacement it was the head of the household of the family he billeted with.

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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It is not a fictional Canada, its a Canada that I know very well.

You will forgive me if I don't accept your stories at face value, given your past performance on these boards, but since you did in fact present some examples I will address them as if I believed them.

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1. My son billeted with a family in Alberta. He waited a year for a knee replacement during which he was out of work and in great pain.

Given that we do not extend our health plan to foreign nationals, I would hazard a guess that the issue here was that your son's US insurers were haggling over the costs and necessity of the treatment. I say this based on the fact that my mother had both her knees replaced, one in her late 60s and the other in her early 70s and she didn't wait more than 2 months and this in one of the more rural and underfunded parts of Canada. see my clarification later

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2. His coach's wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. After the removal of a tumor she waited 18 weeks for radiation.

The best information I could find recommends such treatment within 12 weeks for best results. Could you provide the following information to make the case clear, where in Alberta. Access to radiation in rurla areas is limited by limited resources (just as it is in the US). That was in Montreal.

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3. A teammate was slashed in the eye. He had to come the US, paid for by his Junior team, for surgery on his cornea that would have taken a minimum of 4 months.

This I call bullshit on. His junior team would not have had to pay for his treatment in the US, and would not have done so. Call whatever you want to call. It happened, and I can just as easily call bullshit on your supposed great care under the system. See how easy it is?

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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It is not a fictional Canada, its a Canada that I know very well.

You will forgive me if I don't accept your stories at face value, given your past performance on these boards, but since you did in fact present some examples I will address them as if I believed them.

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1. My son billeted with a family in Alberta. He waited a year for a knee replacement during which he was out of work and in great pain.

Given that we do not extend our health plan to foreign nationals, I would hazard a guess that the issue here was that your son's US insurers were haggling over the costs and necessity of the treatment. I say this based on the fact that my mother had both her knees replaced, one in her late 60s and the other in her early 70s and she didn't wait more than 2 months and this in one of the more rural and underfunded parts of Canada. see my clarification later

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2. His coach's wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. After the removal of a tumor she waited 18 weeks for radiation.

The best information I could find recommends such treatment within 12 weeks for best results. Could you provide the following information to make the case clear, where in Alberta. Access to radiation in rurla areas is limited by limited resources (just as it is in the US). That was in Montreal.

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3. A teammate was slashed in the eye. He had to come the US, paid for by his Junior team, for surgery on his cornea that would have taken a minimum of 4 months.

This I call bullshit on. His junior team would not have had to pay for his treatment in the US, and would not have done so. Call whatever you want to call. It happened, and I can just as easily call bullshit on your supposed great care under the system. See how easy it is?

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ORIGINAL: subtee

Let me ask you this. do you ever think, "if I was the King, and had to consider all of the consequences and costs, etc., I would do...

What would you do? The people are your responsibility and the world will judge you,  so what would you do?

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: Brain

The Right-Wing Media, the Voices of the GOP, in Overdrive to Kill Health Care »

Rush, Hannity, Kristol, Ingram...these people are just out-of-control. And, while it goes without saying that they're lying, it's still shocking to hear just how far they go. They will say anything to protect the status quo: call the President a communist, the destroyer of capitalism, warn Americans that they will not be able to see a doctor in the time of need.

In desperation they are throwing everything at health care reform but the facts. The corporate toadies are feeling cornered, panic-stricken; they may have to contribute to a national health care option and give back Bush’s tax breaks. Will this be the bitter pill that ends corporate welfare?


Read Full Story at americablog.com
http://www.americablog.com/2009/07/right-wing-media-voices-of-gop-in.html

"It goes without saying that they are lying". Even this board's penchant for ad hominen isn't quite that bad....close, but not quite.

BTW, notice how much the stock market likes the prospect of pulling in the reins on Obama's spending?

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

and/or be one of those folks who has adverse and/or allergic reactions or doesn't even respond to conventional treatments that insurance WILL pay for, all or in part, and see how that goes.

I dont follow your point Merc, here in the UK if you have an allergic reaction to anything it gets treated by the NHS.

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...My apologies to Beth.

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they may be deciding how much THEY will cover, you are still the one making the decision about what YOU are willing to pay for

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wrong again. You can work anywhere you want, and if you dont like the health care they provide you can supplement it yourself.

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Senator: Democrats 'baffled' by president's health care stance


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/21/senator-democrats-baffled-by-presidents-health-care-stance/

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

willbeurdaddy, if it is so bad in Canada, why are most the Canadian posters appalled by what they hear some of us in the US saying (about what we lack or go through in our current medical system)?