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RE: diet pills - 7/17/2009 2:00:32 AM

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Right on, BSB. If it works for you, great -- I did WW many years ago but it wasn't really my thing . .... But as I said in one of my earlier postings on this thread, support groups (which is what I consider WW) are probably more effective & certainly safer than diet pills . . .. I'm pretty anti-social & groups are a turn-off for me, so . . . *shrugs*

I agree with a previous poster who pointed out that weight control is mucho variable, requiring work on each individual's part to figure out what works for that individual within the general parameters of fewer calories & more exercise . . .. & it can take a lot of trying different things to figure out what helps . . . .. .

Weight Watchers, in my eyes, has the advantage of being time-tested (way more so than so many methods), & I've heard over the years from vociferous fans of it . . . . & it's very reasonably priced, which is another big plus . . ..

Similarly, I've heard enthusiasm from big supporters of Overeaters Anonymous, to give the readers out there another option . .. . .

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RE: diet pills - 7/17/2009 4:28:40 AM

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I know how the OP feels.I gained all the weight back that I lost in 2005. I dont feel really good about my appearance right now. I find that no matter what I try, if I am not really motivated it wont work, If I am motivated, I will be easy. I am motivted right now. I am journaling my food. It doesnt matter what plan one is on. Just pick one that seems to work. I have started high volume, healthy foods as the farmers markets are abound with them and eating smaller amounts at regualr intervals. Journaling helps you see what you are consuming. so keeps you on track if you have to write it down. Also going to the gym but not working out so hard that you burn up so many carbs that you are famished. Good luck

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RE: diet pills - 7/17/2009 5:37:32 AM

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But of course
The post just came across a tad differently to me

I had a problem with my thyroid and to cut a long story short, despite increasing activity and workouts, eating actually less, it was hell to maintain my weight, a daily fight compared to something that was quite effortless, with all the additional problems like feeling low, lacking motivation, painful periods.... Changing doctors and going back on thyroxin and I am back to exercise being fun instead of a chore, I'm not calorie counting anymore, I lost 10 lbs without actually trying to lose weight, busting with energy and PMS and period cramps have disappeared.

Thyroid problems are often overlooked because it first manifests itself in symptoms like feeling a bit low, gaining weight, etc. and you get told "Well, increase exercise", pretty often when it gets to the point where they actually catch it, you have a range of other problems too, which - if the doc isn't clued up or hasn't checked the thyroid - will all be treated separately.

Just the general check if the thyroid is working fine can't do any harm, it's just ruling out that it might be a metabolic problem.

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RE: diet pills - 7/17/2009 6:02:15 AM

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I don't have much of a sweet tooth but I do drink a lot of alcohol and regular food. It could be I'm picking up the fat because of the alcohol.

I would suggest that reducing your alcohol would be the first step if possible

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RE: diet pills - 7/17/2009 8:15:18 AM

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Let's note the original purpose of this thread. He wants to seem more attractive to dommes. Personally, I find general fitness attractive, moreso than a thin tummy or low numbers on a scale. I think that submissive who takes good care of himself by eating right and exercising and limiting alcohol intake would be much more attractive than one who managed to lose his gut via diet pills or a fad diet or anything else. If you can't take care of yourself and use shortcuts to make it seem like you're doing the work, why would a domina let you take care of her? I'd much rather have a pudgy guy who took care of himself and didn't overindulge too much than a thin guy who was taking diet pills or following Atkins or some such nonsense so he could drink a six-pack every night.

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RE: diet pills - 7/17/2009 11:50:07 PM

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Let's note the original purpose of this thread. He wants to seem more attractive to dommes. Personally, I find general fitness attractive, moreso than a thin tummy or low numbers on a scale. I think that submissive who takes good care of himself by eating right and exercising and limiting alcohol intake would be much more attractive than one who managed to lose his gut via diet pills or a fad diet or anything else. If you can't take care of yourself and use shortcuts to make it seem like you're doing the work, why would a domina let you take care of her? I'd much rather have a pudgy guy who took care of himself and didn't overindulge too much than a thin guy who was taking diet pills or following Atkins or some such nonsense so he could drink a six-pack every night.

A domina is not going to know if I'm thin because of diet pills, or because I'm a macho stud guy that works out 6 hours a day. Bottom line is that guys with a beer gut are going to have less chance meeting dominant women. Am I wrong?

I think dominas tend to be more visual than most women, which means they look at men as sex objects in much the same way men view women. I don't think that's a bad thing, it's just the way dominant women are.

So far the opinion here seems to be against diet pills. I still think they would help me the easy way if I found some good ones like adderall. Of course maybe you guys are right -- I withold judgement on that. WW just seems to be a cash machine for corporations.

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RE: diet pills - 7/18/2009 2:02:55 PM

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I still think they would help me the easy way if I found some good ones like adderall.

first...there is NO easy way. there is a right way, and that is nutritional education and behavior modification.

Secondly...Look up the side effects of Adderall. Big risk, in my opinion.

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RE: diet pills - 7/19/2009 3:55:05 AM

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Do any of you have suggestions about prescription diet pills.

Staying away from them is generally the best suggestion, particularly when the issue is purely cosmetic. The only ones I know of that have a long term effect are available by specialist prescription only. And they entail far more discomfort than that weekly trip to the gym and the daily walk. Instead, start working hip, neck, back, buttocks, abdomen and pectorals, one 1-2 hour session once a week. Take a 20 minute brisk walk each day.

Eliminate high fructose corn syrup from your diet, but otherwise leave it as-is.

Anyway, the muscles I mentioned are all part of the core stability musculature, so you can work them as often as once a week without reducing the bulk muscle gain rate, and their mass is part of what absorbs impact during intense play. This means you will have a wider safety margin in the case of accidental hits (and regular life accidents, I might add), as well as being able to handle harder play (without losing sensitivity). Finally, as far as weight is concerned, your core stability musculature eats calories on stand-by, and more while moving around, so increasing its bulk mass will increase your baseline metabolism.

If you can spare the time, attend a bellydance course for men. That sets you apart from the mass of subs out there.

It's also great for your endurance, coordination and general fitness. You burn calories while you practice, and you learn a really interesting, traditional style of dance for men and women in the process. Try working on not locking your wrist, as well. Men lock joints instinctively before the joint is loaded, while women do not; this is a part of the reason why women tend to be more graceful than men, even with unilateral movements. It's easy to suppress if a lady doesn't like it, so nothing to lose and something to gain.

Finally, when you've reached your goal and got the bellydancing down pat, you can modify one of the traditional shows to encompass BDSM symbolism, outfits and so forth, maybe also get an acquaintance in the scene to help you out with getting the details down, feedback and such. Put a bit of thought and effort into it. Then perform it at a club night, event or something like that. Perfect opportunity to show off some fairly unique skills, while also being comfortable with your physique. If a sub girl did a show like that at an event I was attending, she'd certainly be catching my eye.

I may be wrong, but I'm thinking that goes for sub lads and catching the ladies' eyes, too.

And just about everyone appreciates hard work and genuine effort.

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RE: diet pills - 7/19/2009 8:39:27 AM

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A domina is not going to know if I'm thin because of diet pills, or because I'm a macho stud guy that works out 6 hours a day.

Yes, she will. Because you'll never be at the gym, and you'll lack the muscle and the endurance.

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Bottom line is that guys with a beer gut are going to have less chance meeting dominant women.

Bottom line is that guys who aren't willing to go the extra mile are going to be a mile behind the head of the pack.

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I think dominas tend to be more visual than most women, which means they look at men as sex objects in much the same way men view women. I don't think that's a bad thing, it's just the way dominant women are.

More visual? Sex objects? When's the last time you got a lady comfortable enough with you to talk to you about such things, or listened to one talking to her female friends about the subject? Perhaps it's a culture thing, but around here, a vast majority of women will readily objectify the male body in essentially the same way that men do. If you spend some time reading up on female fantasies, you'll find a fair bit of appreciation for male "assets."

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So far the opinion here seems to be against diet pills. I still think they would help me the easy way if I found some good ones like adderall.

Stimulants work by eliminating appetite for up to a few weeks. By that time, tolerance buildup prevents further use for weight loss. The risk of adiction during this time is significant for anyone considering them an easy way out (that is just the mindset that will get you hooked and see you rationalizing the abuse to yourself). Also, there is a significant load on the cardiovascular system, as well as the potential for permanent changes in brain chemistry. It's just not worth it when you're not facing short term health consequences from obesity. Same thing goes for the non-stimulants.

I'm very liberal about the use of drugs to enhance, rather than just repair, and I strongly urge you to abandon the idea.

All the effective drugs that provide shortcuts, do so at the risk of a very sudden and/or very painful death.

If it's worth dying for, it's surely worth hitting the gym for, n'est-ce pas?

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RE: diet pills - 7/21/2009 5:10:43 AM

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A domina is not going to know if I'm thin because of diet pills, or because I'm a macho stud guy that works out 6 hours a day. Bottom line is that guys with a beer gut are going to have less chance meeting dominant women. Am I wrong?

Yes you are, because a body that has natural muscles is completely different from a body that's thin from diet pills, diet pills can't give you a six-pack, all that's going to (maybe) happen is you might lose your gut, the skin without exercise will go flabby, not a good look. Most diet pills are prescription meds due to the addictive effect they have, basically they are amphetamines. How attractive is some hyper guy who's zombiefied on diet pills? High blood pressure and all that, willing to risk that for a bit of play?

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I think dominas tend to be more visual than most women, which means they look at men as sex objects in much the same way men view women. I don't think that's a bad thing, it's just the way dominant women are.

So far the opinion here seems to be against diet pills. I still think they would help me the easy way if I found some good ones like adderall. Of course maybe you guys are right -- I withold judgement on that. WW just seems to be a cash machine for corporations.

Actually not more visual than other women, most of us wouldn't want to dominate some stud who's an arrogant idiot, personality might have more to do with it than looks.

The thing with diet pills is, the ones that really work are usually quite addictive and have massive side effects, and a guy with an addiction problem is VERY unattractive, plus dangerous to play with.

I leave you to ponder the risks of it, here are some links about the side effects you might find helpful, and yes, as a teen I experimented with them too (I grew up when the heroin chic was all the rage), I was a proper mess on them, unable to concentrate, sit still, sleep, do anything. Seriously wouldn't recommend them, unless heart attacks, headaches, aggression and general health problems sound great to you. Additionally, the body will take the easiest available fuel, and that's not your fat cells but your muscles, apart from losing muscle tone and burning even less, the good old yo-yo effect, etc., the heart is a major muscle, you really don't want to mess with that. Also a lot of poison is stored in your fat tissue, so losing weight too quick is simply giving your body more poison than it should or can cope with. There is a reason why they advise against rapid weight loss.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19587389/

http://weightlossinternational.com/newsletter/diet-pills.html

http://health.howstuffworks.com/health-illness/treatment/medicine/medications/diet-pill3.htm

You could try something rather simple, reducing the alcohol intake (empty calories and basically a beer is almost a meal) and eating as the last thing every day something very high in protein (fish, chicken, lean meat, tofu...) with a few drops of fresh lemon or lime juice (needs to be fresh), it will stimulate your metabolism while you sleep, though a lot of people say it does interfere with their sleep patterns.

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RE: diet pills - 7/29/2009 3:23:11 AM

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I admit I didn't read all of these, but some of them have very good advice.

1) Get a physical and specifically your thyroid checked.
2) Eat better, and like you mentioned consider cutting back on the alcohol.
3) Continue the exercise that your doing, consider adding more. Rule of thumb is heart rate in the zone for 20 mins + for it to be effective.

In addition to that I'd strongly recommend increasing your water intake. While you will see some weight increase from the water, the better hydration will help your metabolism and make you feel better. I also suggest have a cup of green tea in the morning, it has lots of antioxidants and just enough caffeine to help kick start the metabolism without raising heart rate like energy drinks.

Most important thing is to stick with it! It will take time to see results, with pills and diets you risk rebounding and then being disappointed again.

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RE: diet pills - 7/29/2009 4:47:20 AM

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Cut out the alcohol and you will see your belly go down, also cut out sugar and high bad carbs and you will see the same, combine it with exercise and weights so you get an overall fitness. I bet if you cut out the alcohol you will see a major decrees in belly size over a few weeks.

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RE: diet pills - 7/29/2009 3:32:16 PM

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I have a belly and I think it turns off dominant women. Of course we all know how hard it is to lose weight.

Do any of you have suggestions about prescription diet pills. Which ones are easy to get, and where do I get them, and which ones work the best.

there are no quick fixes. go to the gym, if you can't do thatl, try walking a brisk, walk work your self up yo a couple miles a day

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RE: diet pills - 7/29/2009 10:05:55 PM

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So far the opinion here seems to be against diet pills. I still think they would help me the easy way if I found some good ones like adderall. Of course maybe you guys are right -- I withold judgement on that. WW just seems to be a cash machine for corporations.

Believe me dude, adderall is not a diet pill and WW isn't a cash cow.

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RE: diet pills - 7/29/2009 10:57:10 PM

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There's lots of excellent advice already here to consider, so I'm going to go in a completely different direction.

Give up or drastically reduce your alcohol intake. Take the money you save from that, add it to the money you were willing to spend on diet pills, and go hire a ProDomme.

Have a little fun and take the pressure off yourself, while you consider which of the other weight loss options you want to pursue.

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RE: diet pills - 7/30/2009 3:19:21 AM

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So far the opinion here seems to be against diet pills. I still think they would help me the easy way if I found some good ones like adderall. Of course maybe you guys are right -- I withold judgement on that. WW just seems to be a cash machine for corporations.

Believe me dude, adderall is not a diet pill

Adding to what BSB said...Adderall is a potent, dangerous and highly addictive drug when used incorrectly or abused.

My guess is you will not find a doctor willing to prescribe it for you

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RE: diet pills - 8/2/2009 1:56:21 PM

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Try the South Beach diet and go on an induction that will remove you craving for sugar. That would be 2 weeks without refined sugar, potatoe, breads etc. After that diet is easy. Nothing but good old fashion changes in eating and burning calories will work.

I couldn't agree more. The SB plan specifically targets belly fat by controlling blood sugar. On my SB message board we had a man who said he lost an entire basketball sized belly by following the plan for 6 mopnths, and he could now see his feet.

editted to add--most alcohol and especially beer raise blood sugar significantly.

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RE: diet pills - 8/5/2009 12:48:01 AM

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Do you also realize taking any pills while consuming excessive alcohol will give extra damage to your liver?

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RE: diet pills - 8/5/2009 9:56:22 AM

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Certain foods and fats go straight to your belly. Trans fats for one are a belly buster I really don't know why but they do. Actually though I have extra weight as well and my Mistress gave me a simple solution. Lose weight in 15 days lol. So now I am exercising 30-40mins a day and trying to eat much healthier.
I saw this on the show biggest loser which I have watched for 3 years now, that cutting back food doesn't make you lose weight it's eating the right foods to keep your body burning calories. Protein in the morning is a must regardless of any diet plan. It kick starts your metabolism to get your day off to the right start. And another one that is a killer is drinking calories. pretty much if a drink has any sort of calories don't drink it if you want to lose weight, it's a treat only and have them very sparingly. So no pop, alcohol, juice, etc. regular coffee or tea is ok if you skip the sugar and use something like honey or vanilla to sweeten. I'm amazed how much weight I've lost already just removing drinks of all kinds out of my diet and switching to water, combined with exercise. I have the odd glass of juice or milk but if I'm going to have it I try to have it very early in the day. (ifyou want the odd drink of wine or beer then should be done with a meal in the evening) The key to keeping the weight off is simple, what you do to lose it must be done for as long as you want the weight to stay off. Most people gain it back because after their diet they stop. Which is why diet pills don't work because it's unrealistic and unhealthy to use chemicals to maintain body weight even if they work to remove it. Exercise and proper diet are the only way to do it, it's not a diet it's a lifestyle change.
course feel free to ignore me I'm overweight lol I'm working on it though and this just my opinion from my research in the matter.
But I've lost 20lbs this year with relitivly minor changes to my eating habbits and no diet pills. Still have a ways to go but I'll make it :)

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RE: diet pills - 8/30/2009 5:50:34 PM

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I struggle to maintain my preferred weight, simply because I LOVE food. A while ago I set myself a firm target and finally reached it this week. This is how I achieved it.......
Start the day with a healthy breakfast of fruit & fibre cereal and semi skimmed milk, eating only fruit during the day and a small meal early evening, always leaving myself not quite full. I always drink a lot (easily 6 - 8 pints a day in total), mostly slighty flavoured water, and weak tea & coffee (no sugar) and never eat within 4 hours of going to bed. I've also increased my regular exercise with a lot more cycling, pushing myself to the max with speed and endurance. Apart from loosing weight, I feel a lot better for it.
I echo the previous comments of several on this thread - it's a lifestyle change that is required and you need to balance your intake with what your body needs each day, keeping intake just below required so that a small amount of body reserves are used each day. Gradual weight loss stands a much better chance of staying off providing you maintain the lifestyle change you've made to achieve it.
My first recommendation would be cut the alcohol altogether.

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