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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/27/2009 5:21:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arpig

I watched the video. Frum and Bay seem reasonable, but that Coulter....man I want some of whatever she's smoking!!


thanks for the warning. I was considering clicking on that link but now I know better. It is far to early in the morning to have to listen to her.

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/27/2009 7:07:52 AM   
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I think the reason so many keep bringing up Palin is that by doing so they hope to keep pubs from seeing any viable candidates. They want to try to keep her in the spotlight so that she gets her shot in 2012.

If she wants to go to a church where they make sushi on the altar using chainsaws in place of knives, who gives a shit? Its America. People have the freedom to any crazy assed religion they want. If she gets her run in 2012, pull out the chainsaw sushi file and smack her in her political peepee.

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/27/2009 8:28:49 AM   
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The author refers to "Christian supremacists", and I sure as hell don't like the term but have no idea what it means and it is not defined.
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One answer might be here: http://www.theocracywatch.org/


[pardon the odd format of the post--still fiddling with how to post links, etc.]


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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/27/2009 11:12:25 AM   
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Palin faces questions as she exits Alaska politics


ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin gained fame — and to some infamy — since she embarked on a vice-presidential bid less than a year ago.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090726/ap_on_re_us/us_palin_exit_9

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/27/2009 1:54:25 PM   
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Next Up for Sarah Palin? 'Maybe Moose Hunting,' Says Husband

Alaskans start the work week with a new governor, Sean Parnell, and an old puzzle: Why exactly did the old governor, Sarah Palin, step down, and what are her plans for the future? So far, only a possible family vacation is on tap, her husband Todd Palin told ABC News.
"Maybe a little moose hunting, what do you think?" he said, adding that he was "very proud" of his wife.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8180566&page=1

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/27/2009 3:13:11 PM   
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Are you in competition with rulemylife for her "favors", Brain?

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/27/2009 9:43:36 PM   
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Sanford, Palin To Join Obama Administration
WASHINGTON (CAP) - In a sign that it is trying to shore up its bipartisan credentials, the Obama administration today announced that it is reaching across the aisle to fill two diplomatic posts. Tapped to be ambassador of Argentina is beleaguered South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, while outgoing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has been named ambassador to Mars.

http://www.crystalair.com/content.php?id=27200907002

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/27/2009 9:59:56 PM   
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Are you in competition with rulemylife for her "favors", Brain?

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I don’t know what you mean exactly but whatever it is I’m sure I’m not interested. She definitely needs a lot of work though and I don’t think her husband is up to the job unfortunately.

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/27/2009 10:00:19 PM   
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Sanford, Palin To Join Obama Administration
WASHINGTON (CAP) - In a sign that it is trying to shore up its bipartisan credentials, the Obama administration today announced that it is reaching across the aisle to fill two diplomatic posts. Tapped to be ambassador of Argentina is beleaguered South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, while outgoing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has been named ambassador to Mars.

http://www.crystalair.com/content.php?id=27200907002



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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/27/2009 10:08:41 PM   
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I read the original article, and must agree that I saw no big deal with it. The church/pastor/speaker simply used swords as some kind of symbol and analogized it with certain tenets and values that their group values. The sword was a prop, intended to bring their message across more effectively or at least, thoroughly.

The question that came to mind was, "Why is this a big deal?"

I read through the rest of the posts objectively, and if I were judging a debate (which I have experience with), I would say that the Palin defenders won hands-down. Their arguments were less logically-flawed as a whole (less name-calling, more effective use of examples to illustrate their claims, etc.).

I'm not taking any sides, nor am I attacking/defending anyone. I was just posting my observations and opinions.

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/27/2009 11:56:43 PM   
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It was a big deal because she used taxpayer money, and because the mainstream media failed to inform the public about the militant nature of the church she is involved with and that they wished to establish dominion or control over the nation and the world. The sword is simply a prop, well, symbols have consequences. Why is it that all these “peaceful” religions are the ones that are bashing gays, burning people at the stake and starting wars?

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/28/2009 12:06:56 AM   
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Bill Kristol was on The Daily Show and said Sarah Palin and Liz Cheney would make a great Republican ticket in the next presidential election.

Stephen Colbert on his show said Sarah Palin is free to spread her wings and fly in Alaska in a helicopter to shoot wolves.


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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/28/2009 12:59:31 PM   
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Sarah Palin's growing trail of lies as she takes aim at White House
"Sarah Palin did lie when she denied…………….
"Sarah Palin did lie when she said……………….
"Sarah Palin did lie when she announced ………
"Sarah Palin did lie when she claimed………….


http://www.examiner.com/x-9372-Federal-Way-Independent-Examiner~y2009m7d14-Sarah-Palins-growing-trail-of-lies-as-she-takes-aim-at-White-House

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/28/2009 3:21:35 PM   
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It was a big deal because she used taxpayer money, and because the mainstream media failed to inform the public about the militant nature of the church she is involved with and that they wished to establish dominion or control over the nation and the world. The sword is simply a prop, well, symbols have consequences. Why is it that all these “peaceful” religions are the ones that are bashing gays, burning people at the stake and starting wars?


How is that a big deal for you, since you don't pay taxes in Alaska or the U.S.? Are Canadian politics that fucking boring, because I never actually hear Canadians talk about their own government?

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/28/2009 3:53:28 PM   
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Sarah Palin's growing trail of lies as she takes aim at White House
"Sarah Palin did lie when she denied…………….
"Sarah Palin did lie when she said……………….
"Sarah Palin did lie when she announced ………
"Sarah Palin did lie when she claimed………….


http://www.examiner.com/x-9372-Federal-Way-Independent-Examiner~y2009m7d14-Sarah-Palins-growing-trail-of-lies-as-she-takes-aim-at-White-House


Andy? Andy Sullivan? Is that you?

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/28/2009 4:14:39 PM   
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How is that a big deal for you, since you don't pay taxes in Alaska or the U.S.? Are Canadian politics that fucking boring, because I never actually hear Canadians talk about their own government?

Grins at SB4Y honestly ? yes, boring, plus if a Canadian politics subject comes up, its slips so fast down the page, no one notices it because most of the readership here dont know squat about Canadian politics. Im not saying that as a rebuke, but simply the way it seems to me as a Canadian/brit poster.
That and they are politicians, (puke ptooey, ) and the US system is far more entertaining and in some cases like watching a train wreck. Yeah I know I dont have to read/watch/ comment, but I do because I can.
I have learned a lot about the US system in the past two years and appreciate the edukashun.
I know whats going on in Canada(and the UK) but it simmply doesnt hold interest for the majority of posters.
Just my opinion
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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/28/2009 4:15:48 PM   
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I have a house in New York along with family and friends in New York Ohio and California. There is no significant difference between Canadians and Americans. And yes, Canadian politics is using your words fucking boring, especially with our conservative Prime Minister, dry as dust.

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/28/2009 8:48:34 PM   
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How is that a big deal for you, since you don't pay taxes in Alaska or the U.S.? Are Canadian politics that fucking boring, because I never actually hear Canadians talk about their own government?
Lucy got it on the nail. The few Canadian topics that have been posted get pretty much ignored, unless they have to do with something kink related. I will agree to post Canadian oriented threads if you will participate in them, however I doubt you would really be interested (because, yes compared to US politics, ours is very dull and sedate), and in a lot of cases you probably wouldn't understand what we were discussing, because despite what Brain says about Canadians and Americans being basically the same, the systems are very different, and ours doesn't make a lot of sense a lot of the time, due to it being filled with odd hold overs from the past, institutions and offices that continue to exist, but no longer serve any purpose.

Take our parliament for example, it really serves very little real function anymore, the Prime Minister (not even the cabinet) effectively rules as he sees fit, 99% of the time the Members of Parliament can be counted on to faithfully vote the party line, and if they don't then they get kicked out of the party caucus and lose the majority of their office budgets. So basically, the election decides how the votes in Parliament will go for the duration, for all practical purposes we are at the moment governed by 4 people: Stephen Harper, Michael Ignatieff, Jack Layton, and Gilles Duceppe. Between them they decide what will and what will not passed. The party leaders control their caucuses with an iron fist, nothing like the situation in the US where you have rogue Democrats opposing Obama's measures and so on. In Canada, when the party leader decides to support or oppose a measure, then all the MPs from his party will vote for or against it as appropriate. And don't even get me started on our Senate, a bigger waste of money and seat leather never existed. In the Senate, they vote the party line as well, and whenever a new Prime Minister takes over he as quickly as possible stacks the Senate with party hacks and bagmen so he can control the chamber. But the Senate, while theoretically able to overturn or refuse a bill passed by parliament, it is rare for it to do anything but rubber stamp a bill coming up from the Commons. On the rare occasions where the Senate proposes amendments to a bill, those amendments have already been agreed to by the party leaders.

Well that's enough of a hijack for now, but as you can see from the preceeding paragraph, the systems are very different, and much of what is deemed important in Canadian politics will not really seem to be so to most outsiders (or even to most Canadians). However, since the point was made, and is indeed valid, I will start posting Candian threads, and I encourage other Canadians to do the same. And I also encourage our American friends to participate in them and to give us your opinions (even if it is just to say WTF???).


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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/28/2009 8:56:01 PM   
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Canada has politics?!

And a government?

Damn. I gotta read up!

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RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Cere... - 7/28/2009 9:01:44 PM   
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How is it any different than any other politician using our funds to go to any other religious service? Oh... its not. We pay to transport these clowns to church, to the hair stylist, to restaurants and even to the opening ceremonies of shopping malls. I think someone is nitpicking.

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