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RE: Parents of special needs kids - 9/26/2009 8:55:35 PM   
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It seems more about keeping control of what is going on, perhaps have him make a board game to teach you to get him interested on his terms?

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RE: Parents of special needs kids - 9/26/2009 9:16:13 PM   
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Holly,
Here's a site that i frequently use at work........ they've got some pretty good stuff on here... http://therapeuticresources.com/

My recommendation regarding the shoots and ladders game would be that it may have been perhaps too visually stimulating and overwhelming. i'll never forget trying to play it for the first time with one of my nephews. He could not grasp the concept that the point was not for him to go around the board and slide up all the slides....So finally we just changed the rules. The 'new rules' became after you made the little wheel thing go to a number that's what slide you went to and you got to go down the slide. It seemed a whole lot easier to me than watching him have a melt down about not wanting to wait his turn and me feeling like i'm a horrible person and a whole bunch of other crap.....
Sometimes we just have to do the best we can do with what we have.
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RE: Parents of special needs kids - 9/26/2009 9:17:56 PM   
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DragonLadysFire... that might be a great idea!

When our electric went out during a storm, my son was very upset that he didn't have his tv and I had to find some way to keep him busy or his constant 'why' was going to drive me crazy. When he gets something into his head... he forgets my answer and can ask me twenty times in a matter of minutes. We started playing candyland or something and then some sort of war game with cards. I have no idea because he made up the rules. He kept cheating too, so I know he was getting things to figure out how to cheat. But he was happier making his own rules and I was happier because he wasn't ruining a good electricless storm. lol

Maybe playing on his terms to get a feel for where he is at is a good idea. Then just work it as you can to bring in other things as you go.

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RE: Parents of special needs kids - 9/26/2009 9:19:28 PM   
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After reading Kalista's post... it just hit me... Candyland is really simple, not too much going on.

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RE: Parents of special needs kids - 9/27/2009 11:25:59 AM   
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Thinking back, on days she couldn't quietly wait her turn, I would ask her to play my turn while I got some water. As long as she was playing according to the rules, that in itself was a good thing. And yes, allow the rules to be changed to be easier.

Anything that eases his frustration will help. By making his path smoother so he isn't so overwhelmed with frustration all the time, he will find that he can handle a little bit of it knowing it is just a little and soon it will be all over. You would think they would handle it better if they have it all the time, but my experience is opposite of that.

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RE: Parents of special needs kids - 10/1/2009 8:17:44 PM   
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another game LO might like is Barrel of Monkeys or Ants in the Pants. If his motor skills are adequate, what about Tiddlywinks? Or one of those card matching games? Just don't use all the cards at first. Maybe 5 or 6 pairs until he gets used to the game and rules?

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RE: Parents of special needs kids - 10/25/2009 1:23:33 PM   
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Greetings,

verity is the mother of a child with ADHD, among other problems. He is currently in a clinic to help find the right balance and sort of medication for him, we have just found that over a certain dosage he has problems with his heart, so verity is hoping that maybe some others out there have suggestions on how to help him without medication as that is also the ultimate goal.

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RE: Parents of special needs kids - 10/25/2009 3:15:13 PM   
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Hi Holly,

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He refused to wait for his turn, grabbed all the playing pieces from the board as well as his dad and i, and was just a gereral obnoxious pain in the tush. He got frustrated after a few minutes when he was prevented from having his way. He announced that he did not want to play any more (no surprise). Hubby and i continued to play, basically ignoring him and he did his all out best to be disruptive until the game was over. I do not know if he had a lack of interest in the game itself (Curious George has never caused an adrenaline rush, as far as i know) or if he was lost on proper behavior, or...or...


Or it could be that he was just that excited over the game, something new, ya know?  A child with adhd has a hard enough time waiting turns, let alone adding to the mix of something exciting and new.  I found with my son it was easier for him to play one on one games until he learned the rules.  Then we made him the rule keeper, and we would deliberately try to break the rules.  He would become gleeful as he pronounced us "not following the rules".

you could try that, learning with him, then having him learn with your husband, just not all three of you playing at the same time initially.


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RE: Parents of special needs kids - 10/25/2009 3:19:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: estah

Greetings,

verity is the mother of a child with ADHD, among other problems. He is currently in a clinic to help find the right balance and sort of medication for him, we have just found that over a certain dosage he has problems with his heart, so verity is hoping that maybe some others out there have suggestions on how to help him without medication as that is also the ultimate goal.

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One of the problems we noted was my son's lack of sleep.  We started out with ritalin, then adderal, and slowly moved to klonopin o.5 mg at bedtime.  worked wonders.  he still had the adhd, but, without a good night of sleep, he was just a bear about everything.

its a hard battle, and not everyone will understand.  new treatments are coming out, and not every child will have the same treatment.  i would like to suggest that you look into what the school district has to offer your child in way of teaching aids.  my advice, dont ask the school itself.  i would start at the state level.  the local ones dont want you to know that much.

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RE: special needs kids-checking in - 4/11/2010 6:33:06 AM   
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So I am dredging this wonderful thread up to check in. How has your child done this year? My son has matured. He no longer threatens to shoot everyone and himself. He has figured out his triggers and has permission to walk away when he is over-stimulated and about to blow. So he excuses himself to a quiet corner and reads or does homework. He hasnt had a meltdown in school since september. Success!!!!

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RE: special needs kids-checking in - 4/11/2010 7:51:14 AM   
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Mine passed away on April 1, 2010, at age 34. I mention this on this forum, because it's all part of the reality of having these beautiful souls as a part of our lives, and for them allowing us to be part of theirs.

The last year of his life was truly beautiful. Some of you folks already knew that he had a 10 day hospital stay just over a year ago to deal with some issues he was having, and for a medication change. The change in his medicines was one of the best things that ever happened for him. His personality and sense of humor really blossomed.

I miss him so much.

So, as frustrated as you might get with your special person, take the time to really love them, and not just try to get through another day. The day they leave comes way too soon.

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RE: special needs kids-checking in - 4/11/2010 8:01:48 AM   
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Greetings,

purepleasure, my heart and prays go out to you and yours. I am happy that the last year was a good one for him.

lushy lips, I am happy that your son has learnt to know his triggers. That is the hardest thing to learn.

My son is back in school (full time) and is catching up, he has a long way to go but he is getting better. A solid daily structure, good food and everything has helped him learn to deal with his illness....lots and lots of cuddle time helps to.

*hugs and well wishes to everyone*


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RE: special needs kids-checking in - 4/11/2010 5:28:08 PM   
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SO sorry to hear about your brother Pure. I havent been around much lately. Work keeps me busy and exhausted thursday though sunday. He was blessed to have you and you to have him. I hope your emptiness can someday be filled. Not that he can ever be replaced but you deserve so much happiness. Im sure he wants Sissy happy. *Hugs

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RE: special needs kids-checking in - 4/11/2010 7:40:01 PM   
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Pure, I am so sorry for your loss....

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RE: special needs kids-checking in - 4/12/2010 7:22:15 AM   
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pure i am new here and so sorry to have read of your loss.
sending you a virtual hug if you need one today
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RE: special needs kids-checking in - 4/19/2010 6:48:51 AM   
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This thread was my outlet for the nearly overwhelming frustration we felt when the LoudOne was diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder last year.
Everyone was so encouraging and positive, sharing your experiences. You gave hope when at times i was too tired to see the positive. Now, it is my turn to perhaps give encouragement to someone. An update:

The LoudOne was diagnosed at three with Autism as well as Oppositional Defiant Disorder. The ODD diagnosis was due to the violent behavior he would display when he became frustrated. At three he is a big kid and was beginning to do harm.

One the many, many things the Ph.D suggested was the Feingold diet. http://www.feingold.org/
Loosly put, it is a method of eliminating dyes, additives and preservitives from the diet. It is highly recommended for children diagnosed with ADD/ADHD but also suggested for behavioral issues irregardless of the diagnosis.  The most commonly mentioned culprit is Red Dye #40, so i focused on that to begin with (not as easy as you might think. Red Dye #40 is even found in white cake frosting). Within 2 days without this and most dyes, the change is the LO was noticeable. Within a week, i had a different child here.

I was able to pinpoint the allergy to dyes only. Additives and preservatives had no noticeable effect on his behavior. The main problem is the red dye, but green dyes also cause his behavior to be altered.

I waited a few months before going back to the diagnosing doctor. Truthfully, i was afraid he was going to think i was telling him i "cured" the LO's Autism, or, at the very least, was in denial. Neither happened. The Dr spend a great deal of time interacting with the LO, and kept referring back to his previous notes. After an hour he readily admitted there was a mis-diagnosis.

We are not out of the woods. The chances are very high that there will be a diagnosis of ADD/ADHD in a few years. That is expected and we will deal with it when/if it comes.

The reason i am writing this...there are entirely too many labels being tossed onto our kids. I am not blaming the Dr that diagnosed the LO...he worked with what he saw and the information we gave him and his diagnosis was correct for the behavior he witnessed. Thank God, the doctor and the contributors in this thread were encouraging about how detrimental additives in the diet can be.

I am not a nutrition expert, or an expert in anything, for that matter. What we did was by trial and plenty of errors.






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RE: special needs kids-checking in - 4/19/2010 3:00:57 PM   
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Holly - that is FABULOUS!!!!!!!! I am so happy for you!

My oldest was diagnosed with schizo-affect disorder and i was told (basically) to choose the bridge she would need to live under - today she is in her first year of college and making A's B's and C's -depending on how much she likes the teacher lol. She was the one who would throw up if she got too much red food dye . I would love to have thought to have tried her on a dye free diet.
A lot of what we are told about our children seems to be dependent on the disease of the day, so to speak.

I think we need to take seriously what doctors tell us, but I think the future isn't necessarily as bleak as they might say.


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RE: special needs kids-checking in - 4/21/2010 5:20:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sirsholly

This thread was my outlet for the nearly overwhelming frustration we felt when the LoudOne was diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder last year.
Everyone was so encouraging and positive, sharing your experiences. You gave hope when at times i was too tired to see the positive. Now, it is my turn to perhaps give encouragement to someone. An update:

The LoudOne was diagnosed at three with Autism as well as Oppositional Defiant Disorder. The ODD diagnosis was due to the violent behavior he would display when he became frustrated. At three he is a big kid and was beginning to do harm.

One the many, many things the Ph.D suggested was the Feingold diet. http://www.feingold.org/
Loosly put, it is a method of eliminating dyes, additives and preservitives from the diet. It is highly recommended for children diagnosed with ADD/ADHD but also suggested for behavioral issues irregardless of the diagnosis.  The most commonly mentioned culprit is Red Dye #40, so i focused on that to begin with (not as easy as you might think. Red Dye #40 is even found in white cake frosting). Within 2 days without this and most dyes, the change is the LO was noticeable. Within a week, i had a different child here.

I was able to pinpoint the allergy to dyes only. Additives and preservatives had no noticeable effect on his behavior. The main problem is the red dye, but green dyes also cause his behavior to be altered.

I waited a few months before going back to the diagnosing doctor. Truthfully, i was afraid he was going to think i was telling him i "cured" the LO's Autism, or, at the very least, was in denial. Neither happened. The Dr spend a great deal of time interacting with the LO, and kept referring back to his previous notes. After an hour he readily admitted there was a mis-diagnosis.

We are not out of the woods. The chances are very high that there will be a diagnosis of ADD/ADHD in a few years. That is expected and we will deal with it when/if it comes.

The reason i am writing this...there are entirely too many labels being tossed onto our kids. I am not blaming the Dr that diagnosed the LO...he worked with what he saw and the information we gave him and his diagnosis was correct for the behavior he witnessed. Thank God, the doctor and the contributors in this thread were encouraging about how detrimental additives in the diet can be.

I am not a nutrition expert, or an expert in anything, for that matter. What we did was by trial and plenty of errors.


When I received my own dx I did a lot of studying into the abnormal psychology.

There were a lot of studies a few years ago on relations between Autism and diet. There were a few that worked and did help a small proportion of children, but many had no more effect than anything else.  The main antagonist that seemed to show up was gluten, mostly found in wheat and dairy (or a huge part of most peoples diets). Unfortunately it just wasn't common enough, so it's hit or miss if a specific diet helps a child. I'm glad you found one for yours, even though it appears it was a mis-dx. Luckily.

Unfortunately the most commonly accepted causes of autism spectrum disorders are genetic, though the markers seem to be on several chromosomes. Nurture however, plays a great deal in how much it can affect a child.

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Holly - that is FABULOUS!!!!!!!! I am so happy for you!

My oldest was diagnosed with schizo-affect disorder and i was told (basically) to choose the bridge she would need to live under - today she is in her first year of college and making A's B's and C's -depending on how much she likes the teacher lol. She was the one who would throw up if she got too much red food dye . I would love to have thought to have tried her on a dye free diet.
A lot of what we are told about our children seems to be dependent on the disease of the day, so to speak.

I think we need to take seriously what doctors tell us, but I think the future isn't necessarily as bleak as they might say.


Not just Doctor's but patients too are commonly swayed by hyped diseases and will do everything they can to convince themselves they have it, even if a Doc tells them they don't. Happens more often with parents concerned about their children, but adults do it too. It's sad, but true.

And yes, a non NT brain doesn't automatically mean a bleak future, it just means you (or your children) have to go about it a different way than others. I'm sorry that your daughter has Schizo-affective though, emotion disorders are hard to deal with.

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RE: special needs kids-checking in - 5/1/2010 6:59:56 PM   
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Ah yes, red dye # 4. Mine had constant ear infections and when I mentioned to the pediatrician that I hated the antibiotics, he was the one who told me her acting out then was due to red dye. You have to read every damned label in the supermarket. Back then there was only one strawberry yogurt made with beet juice. Every other brand had red dye.

I will say that as they get older, and bigger, it doesn't effect them nearly as much.

Oh and kiwi, I was told mine wouldn't live to find a bridge, that no kid with her disorder lives past age 20. She's 21 next month, not only is she the first to graduate high school, she'll be the first to graduate college. And the kid who couldn't have handled Special Olympics  is a nationally known athlete who received numerous scholarship offers from colleges. But we got lucky in that an effective treatment appeared two years after diagnosis.


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RE: special needs kids-checking in - 5/1/2010 7:07:24 PM   
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Wow - that is so wonderful! I love a good kid story - and even the ones that don't come out like this are great . I met a man who had a downs syndrome daughter - who at 21 had a party that my Sir did the DJ for - that was the happiest kid I have ever met, and her parents enjoyed watching her enjoy herself.

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