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RE: Master/slave questions - 8/7/2009 1:43:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: runnerslut4mstr

Hi. I'm recently new to this lifestyle, howeverI have known its what I've wanted to do for a while. I have recently had a master own me. I have researched for a few years about what this lifestyle was about and everything with it.

My question is about the TPE lifestyle. I feel that this is the type of lifestyle I want to live, however I have set a few limits on what I wont give up control over due to my very strong feelings and expections (I guess you could call them expectations). I dont want to give up(nor do I think its right for me to be asked to either) my family or friends. The two other things I wont give up and go hand in hand are my future career in the military (have had these plans for a few years now) and my schooling because of a promise I made to a family member.

Now I have talked with my master and we are still having an ongoing discussion about whether or not I will have to give up ROTC and joining the military, but possibly continue schooling. He has mentioned the ROTC thing as a we'll see whether or not you shall finish it.

I was wondering if there were other master/mistress out there that could give me their opinion on this matter. Is it wrong of me to ask to keep the school and ROTC due to the promise I had made to a family member that I would continue my schooling and complete the ROTC program? I am willing to be collared and serve my master, but I feel a strong desire to fulfill this promise that I made to my family member. I am new to this, so I dont know exactly what is the right way/wrong way for a Dom to act about these things. I just want to make sure I do the right thing with all of this.

You set you hard limits, there should be no discussion, your Master needs to stand down and support your decision period. We have those limits for a reason. those limits can be, by either Dominant or submissive invoked at any time regardless of whether it is tpe or not.

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RE: Master/slave questions - 8/8/2009 2:26:12 AM

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ORIGINAL: Leonidas

Patenting a linguistic pattern....hmmm.... I like it. I wonder if I could write an algorithm that would scour the web looking for those who had infringed. You may be onto something, my friend.

I suspect I'm a repeat offender, so that would not be so good.

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It can be useful in pubic communications at times as a lever to either get someone to realize that they are being an idiot, or, failing that, get them to be even more of an idiot, so that the quality becomes more obvious, if you know what I mean.

I never said it was an invalid tactic. Else, it would make no sense for me to meta-meta-comment in the same vein. The point, as I'm sure you realize, was that I found it to be misapplied, in that it had a deleterious effect on the thread, and most of the subsequent communication between the two of you. I have no fondness for being included in Michael's sweeping generalizations, either, but I try not to fuck up threads over it, nor bite his heads off right off the bat.

When I hand someone rope, I occasionally entangle myself in it, too. Generally, though, the aim tends to be to reduce the arguments supporting the opposing view to absurdity within the frame of reference employed by the opposing party in the debate. Provided I have a conclusion of my own, anyway, or an opinion of the correctness of a given conclusion in the relevant frame of reference. Otherwise, I shut up or throw something out to see if it will elicit responses that can illuminate sides of an issue that I had failed to consider.

Having a requisite piece in the puzzle of one's conclusion reduced to absurdity introduces dissonance, and human minds are not equipped to operate under dissonance. Resolution is then forced, even if that means shutting down something (a common response when exposed to extreme environments or situations without adequate preparation), reevaluating (in fact the primary means by which ethical decision making strategies increase in complexity or level of abstraction, cf. our earlier arguments), or searching for a way out (appeal to authority, proxy roles, rationalizations, semantic games, etc.). Most of the time, in a debate, convergence on a conclusion is obtained by searching out facts, assumptions and hints at the process that went from those facts and assumptions to a conclusion. If there's a correction to be made in one's own views, it is ideally made after some reflection. Otherwise, one uncovers the fact, assumption or breaches of reason that have led to a conclusion that is absurd or demonstrably false in the frame of reference where it was forwarded.

Repeat until conversion, boredom or admittedly quite entertainingly irrational behavior.

Anyway, this is more like meta-commentary-meta-critique, and prolly redundant, so I'm off to bed to shut up now.

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RE: Master/slave questions - 8/8/2009 8:17:04 AM

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I am looking to serve a freckled,Catholic master.

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RE: Master/slave questions - 9/1/2009 11:44:24 AM

hoiman

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how can I find a freckled master or mistress

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RE: Master/slave questions - 9/1/2009 5:12:39 PM

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how can I find a freckled master or mistress

Well, taking over someone else's thread and asking people at random may not be the best way.

I've got a great idea. How about searching profiles and checking the pics for freckles?

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Advice from a fellow officer - 9/2/2009 10:29:10 AM

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Runnerslut4mstr,

Given the dangers of being in the US military nowadays, doing your ROTC, says a lot about your courage and dedication to your country.

I had the huge priviledge, as a foreign reserve officer, to hold a few training for the ROTC of my university. This was very difficult, but also one of the best episode in my life. My students were definitely elite material, (and motivated to hell, it was 1st Gulf War). If you are part of that gang, it would be self-destructive madness to desert it. It would not be good for your country either.

Being a reserve officer gives you opportunities to accomplish yourself and have a great career that you will never get as civilian. I speak from experience.

That your "master" wants you to abandon the ROTC (which will also impact the studies you can finance BTW) tells us that he is
a) unpatriotic
b) selfish
c) abusive

Call it male intuition, but I am sure that he started with ROTC, but does not intend to stop there. This pure salami tactic. He will have you renonce school too, which will piss your family, that then may become estranged to you. They seems to be pretty conservative, one small indiscretion by your master "Oops, sorry pet" and you are alone. Now tell me, do you see how bleak your future as uneducated, isolated woman will be?

Do not even bother draw a line in the sand (BTW, do you know where the expression comes from) but dismiss a person who is probably not good enough to lick your boots.

As somebody else already said: you have one chance here and now with the ROTC, and they are many many other masters.

With my fraternal salutations, Henry

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RE: Advice from a fellow officer - 9/4/2009 7:18:00 AM

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Do not even bother draw a line in the sand (BTW, do you know where the expression comes from) but dismiss a person who is probably not good enough to lick your boots.

DRAW THE LINE - "When we say 'This is where I draw the line,' we are of course laying down a definite limit beyond which we refuse to go. Several attempts have been made to trace actual sources of the figurative 'line' in the phrase. One says that it referred to tennis, a sport almost as popular as cricket in England by the 18th century. When tennis was introduced from France four centuries before, according to this story, there were no exact dimensions for the court and players drew lines beyond which they agreed the ball couldn't be hit. Another explanation says that the line was cut by a plowhorse across a field to indicate the boundary of a farmer's holding in 16th-century England. No examples of the figurative expression 'to draw the line' have been found recorded before 1793, but either theory could be right. The phrase could also derive from early prizefights, where a line was drawn in the ring that neither fighter could cross." From "Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins" by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997).

OP, you simply aren't compatible with this 'master'. Such an important thing as your whole future should have been discussed prior to accepting his collar. The fact that he didn't tell you up front he proposed to prevent you from finishing school and going on to the career you had chosen shows him to be lying to you. A lie of omission but a lie none the less. Walk, and talk about stuff like this first next time.

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RE: Master/slave questions - 9/8/2009 6:53:15 AM

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It's much harder for an older pre-op tgurl to find a real Master.

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