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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/12/2006 10:24:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: Stunning
Blah blah blah

Why don’t you just go back to your church forum, or whatever narrow-minded, judgmental, hypocritical place you came from.

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/12/2006 10:47:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: Stunning

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ORIGINAL: flowered
... in some places its legal to beat and kill your wife....do you follow those laws?

Please cite this law, because I don't think you can.

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ORIGINAL: MHOO314
and your use of shibari that can result in an unknown blood clot leading to thrombosis and potential amputation or respiratory arrest is protected how?

I am very careful about the use of ropes and I NEVER make ropes tight enough to cause a clot. That's ridiculous. It's not tighter that the straps on a parachute or handcuffs or any number of safety restraints used in several different fields.

And it's protected the same way as spanking or even contact sports. It's perfectly ok to consent to being knocked on your ass in a football game. But the law does not allow someone to consent to permanent destruction of his body in this manner. IN THIS MANNER. I don't know if repeating the same words will sink in or not, but read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote. It's been the same in every post.

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ORIGINAL: enthralled
~smiles~ ... You say that this is a felony? assault? NOT legal? Guess what. . . I agree!!!!
In the state of TN (where I see you are NOT from), it is illegal for any person to lay thier hands on another person, consensual or not.
The spanking, knife-play, and hairpulling listed as interests in ****some**** profiles are also illegal/a felony/an assault and could lead to an arrest even IF it was consensual should the DA desire to prosecute.
Does it make YOU sick because you want to *spank* another individual? Should you be arrested because you enjoy putting a knife to another individuals throat? What happened to tolerance and etiquette?

What happened to reason? What happened to logic? Nothing I do permanently destroys body tissue.What don't you understand about that?

ORIGINAL: enthralled
Or perhaps it's a case of 'My kink is right and yours is wrong'.
Sometims that's the case. Pedophilia is a "wrong" kink. Necrophilia is a "wrong kink." Destroying the body of another person is a wrong kink. Do you know that self-cutting is a mental disorder? Certainly cutting another person, or nailing his body to a board for sexual gratification, is a mental disorder.

ORIGINAL: enthralled
And by the way, putting nails in someones scrotum does NOT lead to destruction of the genitalia (<-THAT is the correct spelling of the word)...
Yes, we all have our spelling quirks. Since the person who did this is not, from any account I have seen, a urologist I would say she did not have the expertise to know whether she was cutting anything vital or not.

Well we all know there had to be at least on out there.... supreme minded better than thou, know it all... that was gonna throw those worthless 2 pennies into the mix and cause the post office to insist on keeping pennies in circulation... <smiles> Oh and that figures... he's got to be from North Carolina as well. That's just Frickin great.....

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/13/2006 10:00:21 AM

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When he develops infection and eventually has his testicles removed, you can expect a lawsuit. You will also be arrested if the cops get wind of this. Despite what you might think, one cannot consent to a felony. And this is felonious assault. And he can base a suit in tort over this assault. We're not talking about a spanking. You're talking about taking the chance on destroying a man's ability to procreate.

There are some things to which the court won't let people consent. The reason is that only a weak minded person with a mental sickness would want his body destroyed and the court protects such people from sick predators like yourself.

Thank God.

Stunning, Thank you for your concern. Too bad you didn't read the whole thread or you would know the amount of time and effort that was put into researching this activity. I care deeply for my subs and would never put them in any amount of harm. Eric has completely healed and doesn't have a mark on him, NOT ONE.

As far as the rest of your comments, they only show your own ignorance. How do you know he hasn't already destroyed his own ability to procreate? And...the last I checked, a vasectomy is consentual and is NOT a felony. Implying that he's weak minded because he has a fantasy that differs from yours magnifies your intolerance and stupidity. Your psychic abilities to predict infection, law suits, mental health, and ability would certainly be appreciated somewhere, good luck on your search.

Thank you again for your interest and concern. Have a nice day.

To everyone that's waiting for pictures...I will be picking up the CD tonight and figuring out how to link everyone that wants to see...I am also in the process of moving...

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/13/2006 10:01:54 AM

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BlkTallFullFig, Welcome Back!!!! I, among others, missed you!!!!!

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/13/2006 10:33:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: truesub4u

Well we all know there had to be at least on out there.... supreme minded better than thou, know it all... that was gonna throw those worthless 2 pennies into the mix and cause the post office to insist on keeping pennies in circulation... <smiles> Oh and that figures... he's got to be from North Carolina as well. That's just Frickin great.....

What else would you expect from someone whose profile contains gems like "I am arguably the most intelligent person in this lifestyle" and "I am the perfect Dominant Man?" He then goes on to complain about other people's poor spelling while making spelling errors in his own, confirming that he is a "consumate" hypocrite whose ego knows no "boundries."

Godammit, where did the rolling eyes emoticon go!

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/13/2006 8:49:49 PM

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You are s right Stef, I read the profile too and couldn't quit laughing myself.

Do you mean this one?

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/13/2006 9:13:29 PM

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Oh wow, I would LOVE to have seen that!! I *giggling* Could I please see a pic or two?
Thanks!

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/14/2006 12:38:50 AM

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stef...I just read his profile as well.....whew!!! how can all you women hold yourself back from throwing yourself at his feet?
Oh wait, maybe I should ask him, since he knows what you are feeling before you do....

ROFLMFAO!!!!

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/14/2006 1:13:49 AM

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I'd also like some pictures, please.

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/14/2006 9:54:10 AM

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Hello all .... and thanks for your interest in the nailing scene.

I was lucky enough not only to be present at the scene but also to be one of the assistants to MissTress. We spent the entire weekend preparing for the event beginning Friday evening. It was an incredibly powerful scene.... to say that the entire club stopped and watched is truly an understatement. No one even so much as moved around during the scene except to get a better view of what was going on.

The girls in the group of assistants put a lot of energy in to supporting and helping Eric through his scene while the two Dommes took turns to perform CBT on him followed by the actual nailing. I feel very honoured to have been a part of this incredible and unique scene.

In celebration of this event I have created a yahoo group with some photographs for your viewing pleasure. Please email me for information on joining the group.

Enjoy!

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/14/2006 10:08:35 AM

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I've seen pictures of a man's scrotum being literally nailed to a piece of wood before. (Probably about the same as what's being described here.) I was 18 at the time and absolutely horrified ... I'm *less* horrified now ... Because I realize that its just one of those things that some people enjoy and I dont. But still, I would have to question the motives involved if I were personally asked to participate in such a thing.

As truesub4u stated several posts back, intentional self harm (cutting yourself, etc) is considered a mental disorder. I would think that wanting someone else to harm you to this degree would be considered a mental disorder as well. Also, being the person to want to do the harming ... I mean, its a very drastic injury ... Yes, its being performed under strict supervision and you've put a great deal of effort into insuring his 'safety' ... (I'm sorry, how safe is it really to nail a body part to a wall?) .. But I guess the point where the line was crossed between fantasizing about having it done and actually having it done (or doing it) is what startles me personally.

I've often mentioned the one relationship I ever had with a submissive guy ... When Iwas 16. He was 24. We were together for two years and I know thats not nearly enough time to become experienced in much of anything but he certainly opened my eyes to a lot of possibilities. One of his kinks was death ... He wanted to die at the hands of his Mistress. LITERALLY. The first time he told me, I thought he meant oh he just wants the illusion of death. No, he literally wanted to die ... He hoped that she would be able to bring him back but if she couldn't, he told me he wouldn't want her to be arressted or charged with murder because it was something he wanted to do for her. To literally die for her ...

That was definitely taking it too far. And you could techinically argue that it was a case of his kink being different than my kink but in reality, it was breaking the law and it was causing permanent damage. What you're talking about doing (or I guess in this case, what you've actually done) is actually causing some level of permanent damage. If there's scar tissue, there was a certain level of permanent damage. No matter how slight ... Besides that, it *is* illegal ... If anyone involved decided to run to the police in shock and horror, you would very likely be in a great deal of trouble for a very long time.

Is it really worth it? Is any kink really worth that kind of risk?

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/14/2006 7:15:47 PM

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If you really want to get down to brass tacks, what "we" do in this lifestyle for "play" is illegal in most, if not all states. That doesn't mean we stop flogging, tying and so forth. Everyone was well aware what was going to take place that evening. They had a choice to come and see or to stay away.

I personally know all involved and I was a DM for the scene. The bottom barely bled and MsTress made sure by looking into and learning what was involved. She felt around his scrotum before every nail. BTW, one of the Dominants was the bottom's wife! So, this was with her approval too.

I also read stunnings' profile..I would scream from the mountain tops, if I could, "Stay away from this guy". He is extrememly arrogant and that makes him very unpredictable and possibly dangerous. Again, I have to agree with those that stated, "my kink is fine but yours isn't". Ok, it wasn't verbatim. And yes, I do know how to write and spell.

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/15/2006 5:04:10 AM

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I would very much love to see the photographs of the event.
Thank you so much.
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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/15/2006 5:06:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: MouseTrapp

Hello all .... and thanks for your interest in the nailing scene.

I was lucky enough not only to be present at the scene but also to be one of the assistants to MissTress. We spent the entire weekend preparing for the event beginning Friday evening. It was an incredibly powerful scene.... to say that the entire club stopped and watched is truly an understatement. No one even so much as moved around during the scene except to get a better view of what was going on.

The girls in the group of assistants put a lot of energy in to supporting and helping Eric through his scene while the two Dommes took turns to perform CBT on him followed by the actual nailing. I feel very honoured to have been a part of this incredible and unique scene.

In celebration of this event I have created a yahoo group with some photographs for your viewing pleasure. Please email me for information on joining the group.

Enjoy!

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Can you please send me information on joining the group.
Thank you so very much.
Huggs, shawna

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/15/2006 7:06:23 AM

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Anyone who gets sexual satisfaction from driving nails into the genetalia of another human is sociopathic and should NEVER be left alone with invalids, children, animals, etc.

Quick! Someone call the ASPCA and Child Protective Services, because my 10 very happy pets and 2 grandlittlepeople are in horrible, horrible danger!!!!

Get a grip, guy.

Miss Tress, I'm sorely regretting that I live too far away to have attended what was clearly one of the most incredible scenes anyone has ever done in a public space. It has long been a desire of mine to do exactly what you have done, and my hat is off to you. Please add me to the list of those who would love to see the pics when they are available.

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/15/2006 7:17:11 AM

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I would think that wanting someone else to harm you to this degree would be considered a mental disorder as well. Also, being the person to want to do the harming ... I mean, its a very drastic injury ... Yes, its being performed under strict supervision and you've put a great deal of effort into insuring his 'safety' ... (I'm sorry, how safe is it really to nail a body part to a wall?)

About as safe as getting a permanent piercing, and plenty of men get their dicks and scrotums pierced. When doing a piercing of this type, the needle (or in this case - my personal favorite fantasy - nail) is ONLY going through skin. The biggest risk there is possible infection to the wound site, which is the same risk one has when getting a permanent piercing or even a tattoo. As long as the testes themselves are not damaged, there shouldn't be any problem.

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/15/2006 11:34:40 AM

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Are you honestly comparing what you're doing to a man having his scrotum or his penis pierced?

OK sure, we'll go there.

While we're at it, please show me your license ... You know, the one you recieved after being trained to legally drive a nail through human flesh. Oh wait ... They don't train people for that do they? Hmm ... Yeah.

Men who get their genitals pierced (smart ones anyway) go to a professional LICENSED piercer. The person doing the piercing has been trained and has practiced and knows what they are doing. Naturally you feel much safer going to a person like that than you would just throwing open your legs and saying, "Here Mistress, have at!"

But you ... You dont have a license.

Being a Domme and being interested in something and spending lots of time reading about it or watching it done or hell, even practicing on a willing partner or two does not make you a trained professional. I'm sorry, driving a nail through a man's scrotum (or any other body part) is NOT the same as having a piercing. If the man should suddenly panic and flinch away at the last minute you run the risk of crushing one of his testicles, ripping his scrotum into pieces, or possibly even being injured yourself because lets face it, a person in a panic is a lot stronger than a person who's just a little bit scared.

Or what if your hand slips ... What if any number of things goes wrong. Maybe someone sneezes and throws your concentration ... The end result is the submissive is suddenly maimed and bleeding and you're the one holding the hammer, my friend. If you take him to the ER (which, if you're a decent Domme, you will) then you've got to somehow ezplain this injury to the doctors. If you manage to fool them, you'd better hope he heals cleanly and doesnt decide to sue you or something.

Yes, people will think he's a bit loopy for wanting someone to drive a nail into his scrotum, but like I said ... You're the one with the hammer. Any decent lawyer will rake you over the coals for something like that. Then you probably could say goodbye to your grandchildren and your pets. I'm sorry to come across so harsh about this but people wonder why BDSMers have a bad name ... This is part of it?

We sit here and we go on and on about being safe, sane and consensual ... But really, how safe is it to drive a nail into someone's body parts? How safe can you possibly make that? There comes a point where its not just about kink anymore ... My boyfriend's kink was to be killed by his Mistress. If I had participated in a snuff scene with him and something had gone wrong, I would be a murderer. It wouldnt matter that I was only 16. It would have been premeditated murder. It wouldn't matter that he had said he didnt want his Mistress to be charged over it ... The fact is, I still would have the one responsible.

Sometimes I think Dominants get so caught up in making fantasies real that you forget where the responsibility falls at the end of the scene. Yeah, the submissive wanted it done but you're the one who chose to make it so.

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/15/2006 11:36:16 AM

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Please forgive certain typos ... I got a little impassioned. :)

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/15/2006 12:00:45 PM

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kiska..I feel I have to point out a couple of things that I thought would be obvious...but clearly aren't
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1. What is illegal where you live is not illegal everywhere else.

2. Not all jurisdictions lisence or regulate people who do body modifications.

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But really, how safe is it to drive a nail into someone's body parts? How safe can you possibly make that?

Well seeing as the nailee is apparantly unharmed and very happy about it all, i would say that apparently it can be made very safe, wouldn't you? or does the fact that it was done without any apparant injury beyond a few little holes fall into the category of "inconvenient fact we will overlook for the sake of my arguement"?

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RE: Nailing his balls to the wall...literally - 4/15/2006 1:02:33 PM

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I'm sorry, just because it went well this time doesnt make it a good idea ever.

Besides, I was more offended at the idea that she tried to say it was as safe as being pierced ... Its simply not. Its extremely misleading to the inexperienced for someone to sit here and try to compare apples to oranges. Paint the orange red and its still an orange.

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