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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Here's a scary fact that's beyond dispute:

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Obama Says Grandmother’s Hip Replacement Raises Cost Questions


April 29 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama said his grandmother’s hip-replacement surgery during the final weeks of her life made him wonder whether expensive procedures for the terminally ill reflect a “sustainable model” for health care.


The president’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, had a hip replaced after she was diagnosed with cancer, Obama said in an interview with the New York Times magazine that was published today. Dunham, who lived in Honolulu, died at the age of 86 on Nov. 2, 2008, two days before her grandson’s election victory. “I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost,” Obama said in the interview. “I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother.”


Obama said “you just get into some very difficult moral issues” when considering whether “to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill.


“That’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues,” he said in the April 14 interview. “The chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health- care bill out here.”


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aGrKbfWkzTqc

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


What's scary (besides having to spell something so obvious out)  is that Mr. Megalomaniac was claiming he'd found the ticket to saving 80% of the present health care budget that he thinks he can use to fund the changes that he'd like to see happen.

Else, what was his point in bringing it up that way. 

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There isn't a place so low that Obama won't go there.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Couldn't we then lower taxes to jump start the economy, 'cause I know that an extra $23 bucks a week in my pocket, (once I get some kinda job) is what is really needed, it's gonna be fuckin' explosive, what with the surplus that we are spending away even as we speak from the great tax revenues that we cage even now.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

So now....get this....people actually get to keep their current insurance and their current doctor if they want. That fascist dictator is cramming freedom of choice down the throats of the American people! He must be stopped!

Fuck that clown!!! Are you going to sit here and tell me, that all these people who currently have health care, and are happy with it can keep it?  What kinda fucking socialized medicine is that?   Next you are going to tell me that he ain't going to sell us out to Kenya?.................That moderate bastard!!!!!

No, that's not inciteful enough..........

That mediocre centrist choice loving commie left wing bastard!!!!

OH FUCK!!!!!!  Say it ain't so; Joe!!!!!

Marilyn Monroe 

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Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30

(in reply to Musicmystery)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
What's scary (besides having to spell something so obvious out)  is that Mr. Megalomaniac was claiming he'd found the ticket to saving 80% of the present health care budget that he thinks he can use to fund the changes that he'd like to see happen.

Else, what was his point in bringing it up that way. 

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Ron!!!! Don't you get it!!!???

They intend to take care of people's health needs!!! Shit, soon people will openly engage in preventative maintenance, even the damn poor ones! What the hell are the overcrowded emergency rooms supposed to do now? Just wait around for emergencies???

Pretty soon, instead of spending more on health care than any other nation and yet being the only industrial nation that doesn't address it, we'll start saving money. THEN what???? How the hell are we going to choke the shit out of Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare if the costs of these programs starts coming under control????

America as we know it will be over!!!! And people will like Obama and the Dems and vote for them!!!

It's a catastrophe! We'll be forced to enter the civilized world! Then what????

It's a slippery slope to hell, my friend, and entirely against the will of God.