RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (Full Version)

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frankx -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 12:48:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

How do things usually work here?  A thread about just how awful malesubs are always garners huge support for the opinion that subs are, indeed, awful.  OK, many are awful and for the reasons (and many others) stated thus far.   But now, a thread about how good one particular sub is garners . . . precisely the same sorts of posts about how awful subs are.  The seed of that was in TM's post itself. 


I wonder if it the same as news reports on TV, radio, newspapers, media etc.  When bad things happen, its news.  But when good things happen or are done, its not (well maybe occasionally).  Say in a ratio of 10:1 bad to good news stories reported?  Perhaps even higher.




LadyPact -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 12:49:34 PM)

I don't call them tributes in that sense, peon.  To tell you the truth, I tend not to use the term at all.  Has clip given Me gifts?  Yes, he has, even when I have scolding him for spending money on Me. 

I've said it many times on these boards.  My favorite of all time was something that cost him all of $3.00 or less. 

"Proud Owner of LPs-littleclip.  Purchased 08-27-07."

Ask Me.  I'll tell you the story sometime.




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 12:49:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

In the sense that I mean the word, a 'tribute' could just as easily be given by a domme to a submale.  It's an interesting thought  . . .



So, what's going on here?  Is he tributing me with his time and effort and am I tributing him back with a nicer gift than I would otherwise have bought?  Or is it just one person's generosity of spirit prompting generosity of spirit in someone else?  I'd like to think the latter, because I really, really hate the idea of d/s tribute.

Anyone who enters into a relationship with me expecting a quid pro quo will likely get nothing.  Anyone who enters into a relationship with me giving of himself for its own sake will likely get back as much or more than he invests, and it has nothing to do with money.  Motivation has always been a huge factor in my considering a potential partner. 


V, to me, that characterises the sense of meaning of  'tribute' that I've carried with me from the vanilla world.  (Not that I used it much there, mind - it always seemed a bit pompous.)  I've no intention at all of giving it up - no matter how much whining I might get about my whining.  [;)]

I give out of affection, love, adoration and (recalling what I think are valid comments about dommes spending more than their subs on various things) out of a sense of sheer fairness.  I don't give if I don't have those feelings for a person - and that will always be that.




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 12:53:14 PM)

I don't call them tributes in that sense, peon. 

Damned good policy, LP.  The word is a million times more trouble than it's worth. 
 
I've no doubt at all that clip gives you presents and that you give him presents too.  That's what couples who love each other tend to do! [;)]




Venatrix -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 1:07:51 PM)

Whenever I hear the word "tribute", I'm strangely reminded of ancient Roman triumphs, where war captives and plundered booty were displayed in a processional before the populace, guarded by muscular centurions wearing studded leather breastplates, and, erm, I'll just go have a lie-down now.




LadyPact -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 1:08:37 PM)

OK.  That was kind of hot.  LOL.




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 1:16:43 PM)

I'll just go have a lie-down now.

Typical.  A man gets turned on, he wants to get active.  A woman gets turned on, she lies down.  Says everything.  [;)]




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 1:20:29 PM)

Since Beeble's not here, we'll have to make do with you, V.  [;)]   "Tribute" has a "tri" in it.  Doesn't "tribute" imply three of something or another?




LadyPact -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 1:22:03 PM)

It's a little early in the afternoon for Me to be talking about three participants in intimate situations, dear.




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 1:24:32 PM)

Sorry to squick you, LP.  OK, what about ten participants, then? 




LadyPact -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 1:29:14 PM)

Takes a lot more to squick Me.  Perhaps we have a different definition.




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 1:36:56 PM)

Perhaps we have a different definition.

Impossible.  Everyone always operates with exactly the same definition of every word, LP.  That's why the world is such a harmonious place.




VanIsleKnight -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 2:35:08 PM)

Read through the entire thing, so will try to respond as best as I can.

I came to this thread because it's an open forum, and I had an opinion.  Several in fact, with varying degrees of right and wrongness in them.

Personally I feel that I have learned a lot more about kink/BDSM/the "scene" on this forum then I ever would in the popular media (TV, movies, porn, newspapers, etc) and I consider knowledge and education a very important thing.  Mostly because nobody can take that away from you.  So that is why I come on here in my spare time when I do not have other plans.

In my learning, I have quickly learned what type of Domme is not worth my time, energy, or devotion to serve.  It all works out rather well actually if they don't want or consider me, because I sure as heck do not want their sort either.  They might be nice enough girls, but I've not much interest in them at all.  I prefer my Domme to care more about me then whatever trinket I get her, and it is nice that some of the Dommes here do have wonderful pets that they love and adore.

It's a beautiful Victorian day, sun is shining, breeze is light, and the sky is blue.  Imma head to Camosun College. :)




Venatrix -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 2:49:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Since Beeble's not here, we'll have to make do with you, V.  [;)]   "Tribute" has a "tri" in it.  Doesn't "tribute" imply three of something or another?


Indeed, yes, Peon.  It implies three butes.  Then you've got your bibutes (these are butes that will swing either way), and your unibutes (the ones who stay at home alone, wanking).  More than tributes and it just qualifies as a groupbute or an orgybute.




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 2:51:19 PM)

'Neither be cynical about love, for it is as perennial as the grass'.  The line's as true in the D/s world as it is in the vanilla world.  Most of the women I've got to know here are diamonds, Knight.  You'll be OK.




bobipanti -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 3:07:16 PM)

And he is a lucky man indeed.....




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 3:22:30 PM)

Ah, thanks for filling me in, V.

A quick google reveals that 'Bute' refers either to the island on the west coast of Scotland, or to a painkiller given to horses.  So, properly to give a woman a tribute, I surmise that I should be giving her either three horse pills, or three cold, rainy islands. 

Right: that's this debate about 'tributes' settled once and for all, then. 




VanIsleKnight -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 4:17:02 PM)

LOL Peon!  That's terribly funny, thank you. :D

And I know. ^_^ Most of the women on this forum are pretty decent and well-rounded.  I'd also be surprised if I found that we agreed on everything.

What a statistical improbability that would be, dozens of people on the internet agreeing with each other all the time. :O




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 4:21:51 PM)

well-rounded
 
I'd pick a better phrase to describe the women here next time, Knight.  While mostly very nice, they can be short-tempered.




LadyPact -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/12/2009 4:28:16 PM)

If this turns into a fat thread, I'm kicking somebody's backside.




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