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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

. . . . You're probably best advised not to ask me any details about those Tinkerbell fantasies, Lockit.  Word to the wise.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

When I went to the pub earlier for a Tribute Bitter, Dave the Barman tributed my loyal custom by pouring my Tribute before I'd even asked.  I tributed him with £3.15 for my Tribute.  He tributed me with a thanks, then I tributed him with a thanks for his tribute of pouring my Tribute.  Then I left the beer undrunk, and went home with a headache instead.

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ORIGINAL: Lockit
Less likely to fall out or off like one can a pedastal! And I am as big as my ego or mind allows without blowing up. Besides I can always have him kneel... of course he is still almost as tall as I am kneeling. Oh well... with the inflated ego... I think I will be okay. hehe

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some lady threw her drink at his ego, and it swelled to gigantic proportions.

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ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued

I'm not sure I find this style of labeling productive or helpful.

I've always found labels, terms and definitions help tremendously in communicating who we are and what we want. It's the accuracy and honesty regarding those labels that's the crux. And that was the crux.

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ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued
Regardless of which side of the gender equation you look from, the potential is there for misguided hubris and elitism.

I'd go one step further in saying there is more than potential at play. There are plenty of so-called "dominant" Women who use this venue as nothing more than a means to turn an easy dime or simply find a date. All this really puts an even clearer focus on the fact that for those who are actually seeking Mistress and slave relationships, the pickings are pretty slim. It is this reality which necessitates labels and clear understanding of what one is really seeking, in addition to a lot of soul searching and experience.

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ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued
We humans have complicated mating and partnering rituals. Finding a compatible partner is difficult for anyone, be they vanilla or kinky.

The problem is, however, some of us humans are not looking for these labels that you are now using, ironically. For some of us, it's not about finding "mates" or "life partners", being either "vanilla" or "kinky"; we are looking to serve or be served. Love and deep psychological intimacy can and often is a catalyst through which servitude and slave making happens, but the balance of love itself doesn't have to be there in the way many traditionally perceive.

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ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued
Ironically, it seems a significant hurdle kinksters must sometimes overcome is a mindset focused on roles (dominants, switches, submissives, slaves, etc.) instead of people.

For "kinksters", I'd agree with you. But some of us would not prefer wearing that label in turn, however accurate that may be for you. For some of us, the terms Mistress and slave—and even submissive—have grave, particular meaning and form that can only be stretched so far before it's clear all that's really left is in fact a label. That's not being elitist; it's being logical and real about the ideals and desires that propel you. I'd also add that some people are, believe it or not, slaves and Mistresses. It's not always a front or dungeon persona, as the collective platitudinous wisdom often seems to gesture.

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ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued
Truth be told, I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't appreciate being approached with courtesy, a sense of humour, intelligence, friendliness, empathy, and respect.

Again, these are very nice platitudes that will garner obligatory forum applause, but I'm not certain where in my recent writings you've felt I've expressed otherwise. In fact, every dominant Female I've ever known marks those qualifiers as prerequisites in exchange with a man who approaches Her.

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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

Does the inflated ego act as an airbag if you fall off the pedestal? It reminds me of the time when Dilbert was at a bar, and some lady threw her drink at his ego, and it swelled to gigantic proportions.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

I was so into tinkerbell... and that necklace, I even wrote it all into a storyline once. In the summer time, before the fireworks each night, tinkerbell would fly down and the fireworks would start.

An X-rated story? Gawd!  You're worse than Otters and I!

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

You assume here that people see physical intimacy the same as they do money, and I'm not so sure that's a very common perception, notwithstanding your advocacy for this position. To me, its apples and oranges. Its kind of like comparing a job (where you get paid) to a hobby (which you practice out of personal interest.)

Some people obviously are able to connect physical intimacy with money, in the same way that many submissive men connect physical intimacy with footwear, or gender-inappropriate clothing, or age-inappropriate clothing and behavior, etc..  They call them "fetishes" for a reason, I'm afraid.  The juxtaposition of sexual arousal with something that in the vanilla world is NOT sexually charged is pretty common in this community.

As for "advocating a position"--I am not a financial player myself.  I simply don't think it is a kink or behavior that is substantially worse or less moral than any other power exchange.  ALL d/s activities are dangerous and even potentially deadly in the hands of an abuser.

Here here. Making value judgments against someone's fetish when you like sucking toes, wearing panties, having sex slaves or whipping some man against a wooden cross is pretty ironic. If you want to make a judgment against the morality of someone's personal fetishes, you need to take a look in the mirror and ask why.

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arrrrrahhhhhhhhh.!!!!!!  Oh man, look, mostly all the men whom hit that profile button category "submissive" should not do it.  They are NOT a submissive and they don't want to surrender unless it's all fun and games kink play.

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Nothing wrong with that but truth is they're really bottoms looking to have a good ole time with a woman "domme" slaving over their body doing all sorts of things with ropes, cuffs, electro play, etc.  (snip)  Nothing wrong with this - these "submissives" really want an equal vanilla relationship but they want it with a kinky partner.  A domme woman isn't looking to be an equal.  She wants to be served.  Bottoms don't want this.

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^^^ This is just a dang hoot... seriously tho I get the feeling you're joking, right.  Hehe.  Apparently you must be kidding elan.  Seriously.  Firstly, it's a mislabel.  Intentional I believe for most because they know the word Bottom won't appeal to a domme as much as "subby" does.  Most of the men who say they are "subs" ARE NOT SUBS.  Nothing wrong with that but they are mislabeling themselves.

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Bottoms would rather label themselves as "sub" because they know a domme will look right past the profiles that say "I'm a bottom".

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Great looking as you probably are...

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...you aren't a domme.

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You're a switch.  How would you know what's out there?  Unless you've had in box filled with a bunch of wankers calling themselves "sub" you don't really have the authority to say.

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Secondly, why do you think so many subbys are without a female domme?  Just goes to show female dommes aren't into filling " subs" sexual desires.  A dom woman isn't about looking for that kind of man.  All the men who are into serving giving and all that submissive stuff are taken.  Ultimately 9 out of 10 "subs" are bottoms who want kink play.  Eh, don't even try to act like that's that not true.  If you do, you're delusional. *smile with sunglasses* teehee.

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ElanSubdued:
I'm not sure I find this style of labeling productive or helpful.

XYisInferior:
I've always found labels, terms and definitions help tremendously in communicating who we are and what we want.  It's the accuracy and honesty regarding those labels that's the crux.  And that was the crux.

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ElanSubdued:
Regardless of which side of the gender equation you look from, the potential is there for misguided hubris and elitism.

XYisInferior:
I'd go one step further in saying there is more than potential at play.  There are plenty of so-called "dominant" Women who use this venue as nothing more than a means to turn an easy dime or simply find a date.  All this really puts an even clearer focus on the fact that for those who are actually seeking Mistress and slave relationships, the pickings are pretty slim.  It is this reality which necessitates labels and clear understanding of what one is really seeking, in addition to a lot of soul searching and experience.

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ElanSubdued:
We humans have complicated mating and partnering rituals.  Finding a compatible partner is difficult for anyone, be they vanilla or kinky.

XYisInferior:
The problem is, however, some of us humans are not looking for these labels that you are now using, ironically.  For some of us, it's not about finding "mates" or "life partners", being either "vanilla" or "kinky"; we are looking to serve or be served.  Love and deep psychological intimacy can and often is a catalyst through which servitude and slave making happens, but the balance of love itself doesn't have to be there in the way many traditionally perceive.

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ElanSubdued:
Ironically, it seems a significant hurdle kinksters must sometimes overcome is a mindset focused on roles (dominants, switches, submissives, slaves, etc.) instead of people.

XYisInferior:
For "kinksters", I'd agree with you.  But some of us would not prefer wearing that label in turn, however accurate that may be for you.  For some of us, the terms Mistress and slave — and even submissive — have grave, particular meaning and form that can only be stretched so far before it's clear all that's really left is in fact a label.  That's not being elitist; it's being logical and real about the ideals and desires that propel you.  I'd also add that some people are, believe it or not, slaves and Mistresses.  It's not always a front or dungeon persona, as the collective platitudinous wisdom often seems to gesture.

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ElanSubdued:
Truth be told, I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't appreciate being approached with courtesy, a sense of humour, intelligence, friendliness, empathy, and respect.

XYisInferior:
Again, these are very nice platitudes that will garner obligatory forum applause, but I'm not certain where in my recent writings you've felt I've expressed otherwise.  In fact, every dominant Female I've ever known marks those qualifiers as prerequisites in exchange with a man who approaches Her.

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Absolutely.  This is an excellent description about what is important for a relationship, what makes finding a partner complex, and how a positive attitude helps.

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Elan, I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty to add an item to your list:

When intellectual attraction, pheromones, physical attraction, *attraction to feet*...

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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

I get so very weary of reading the tired old lambasts against 'tribute' here on these boards.

I'm usually not one to brag or boast, because I like to keep My sub's cards close to My chest, but I just had to share tonight's experience for those Dommes who are bombarded by whiney, wimpy, pathetic drips who have NO clue what it is to support the kind of woman they long to serve.

Tonight, when I entered the room where he sat cooling off from a much deserved shower, (for, you see, he'd been at My best 4ever g.friend's home fixing her AC earlier this afternoon....at his own expense...) I traipsed into the room to find a collection of 5 brand new floggers arrayed on the bed for My approval.

Long falls, short falls, thick falls, razor thin falls, heavy floggers, light and easy to handle floggers, leather handles, steel handles, split hide, full grain hide, elk hide.....each with a bite or pummel or caress all it's own.......and next to these beautiful new floggers were arranged three pyrex glass dildos for My pleasure, along with two double ended dildo's for anal/vaginal mutually satisfying penetration, next to a double set of leather paddles, one light, one heavy, ....all brand new presents just to make Me smile and to enjoy having some adult fun with WIITWD.

I still had the dog food and cattle feed in the trunk of My car that he picked up yesterday, for My/our animals, at his expense, along with money he provided for the ever skyrocketing light bill, and for groceries, that he sends Me every single month, without complaint. 

That, in addition to the funds he'd provided to help a family member who was out of a job relocate for a lifeline in a new town with a new chance at a new career. 

Not to mention the monies he contributed in July for prescriptions and copays for that elderly relative turning senile who needs medical care 24/7. 

Not to mention the new suit on My back, the hairstyle he paid for, the matching (or contrasting) shoes, or the purse, or the lingerie I'm wearing beneath today's ensemble....all gifts from My manthing.

I clasped My hands with delight at the sight of the collection of floggers on the bed, while he whispered, 'what's that fragrance You're wearing, it's wonderful?!' even though he knows full well it's the Burberry Britt he brought back from the duty free shop in Dubai just a few months ago. 

He passionately kissed my cheek and nuzzled the earlobes where his gold earrings glittered, the ones he brought back from that Dubai trip.

I touched his gold necklace, the heavyweight symbolic collar he wears to denote his service to Me, and I greedily, hungrily picked up first this flogger, then that one, and tried them out, each one in turn, on his tender skin.

He rolled his shoulders forward and stood motionless, mesmerized by the anticipation of a painful but stimulating session in the offing.

I must have orgasmed 20 times, between the floggers and paddles making me hot as melted wax and the new toys that found every g spot we could both possibly discover.

Afterwards, in a heap of exhausted bliss, he whispered to Me that the 'car deal' went through, and tells me while nuzzling My breasts that the new high-mileage-import-mini-SUV-I've-been-dreaming-of-as-the-perfect-dog-show/cattle-show/handicapped-relative-transport-vehicle has been approved and finalized and is on it's way to My door for My exclusive use and possession next week, while he makes the payments, pays the insurance, tax, title and license for Me.....

I could never thank you, manthing, for everything you do for Me, every day, in every way, to let Me know how much you care, how much you love Me, how much you appreciate and cherish our relationship.

I love you.

Thank you, from the bottom of My heart.

....and the rest of you whiney, petulant, selfish, self absorbed limpdicks can sit up and take notice of how a 'real man' pays tribute to his Domme!

That's how it's done. 

Texas Maam

....oh, and if you're some broken winged pigeon that this manthing happens to pay a compliment to online,  please,  don't email Me, just consider yourself lucky, and be sure you keep your distance.....