Eigenaar -> RE: what is TPE 24/7? (10/9/2009 2:43:44 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar What you are saying here is that what Carol and you have is TPE 24/7 and that this is the same as slavery ''in some earlier time or different place''. Thruth is it is not the same and never will be. Having no choice is not the same as having a choice and Carol has a choice those (slaves) ''in some earlier time or different place where slavery was culturally allowed'' have not. This is what Lucienne is referring to and what some here overlook. I am not going to be obtuse and make it sound as if I miss your point. I get your point and I hear what you are saying. Fundamentally, I agree. However, I am a slave. I am not capable of choosing not to be a slave. I cannot turn it off. Trust me, if I could, there are times that I would. I do not have a choice in the matter. It is who I am. You can argue that legally I have a choice. However, legally I do not. I am not allowed to choose slavery. Now, legally, my Master cannot hold me against my will. That, I will admit. However, lets face it, the law has nothing to do with slavery in the manner in which we live it. I, too, see my enslavement as complete as slavery was in the days gone by. I am NOT by any measure embracing forced slavery, but to me it is not a choice. A choice indicates that I can, have the ability, to choose. I do not. I am a slave. Incorrect. Your dominant partner did not buy you from an entrepeneur, you were neither given to him as a birthday present. You are not a legal slave; being a slave is not about turning it on and/or off or being who/what you identify with, this would mean the general slave in earlier days felt the same way as you and this is not the case. I referred to the assertion ''TPE 24/7 is legal slavery'', not what you might feel what/who you are. You may feel not being able to leave your partner whereas a legal slave did not have the right to leave the owner. You are not doing things justice not making this distinction. That ''the law has nothing to do with slavery in the manner in which we live it'' is not correct either. You would have to define that to make it valid.
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