Loki45
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Original: Lucienne No, the gist is not the same. When someone says "no," you should stop immediately. We're talking about a penis, not an 18 wheeler. It doesn't take 5 seconds to stop a penis from continuing a thrusting action. Fine. Define immediately. 1 second? 2 seconds? How do you quantify it? You know it does take time to stop when you're mid-thrust. No, it's not like an 18-wheeler, but it still takes time for the 'stop' to reach the ears, for the signal to reach the brain, for the brain to go against the action that feels really good and to stop the action. You women may think it does not, but it does, especially if he's cumming at the moment. For guys, it's not just like 'lying there,' it's actual muscle movment. When the muscle tenses up for an orgasm, it's like trying to stop peeing mid-stream. You can't do it. We can try....but you'll just end up getting a shot in the eye or the stomach as we try and meet your ridiculous timing demands. quote:
Original: Lucienne That's the problem. You think that once a preliminary level of consent is given that the he's totally clear for whatever he wants to do sexually. That's a nice logical leap, but you're wrong. In the case I am talking about, they're ALREADY FUCKING. She's already moaning, as is he. They're already riding the hobby-horse, as it were. That's FAR beyond "preliminary consent" and MUCH farther than the apartment comment you made. You're over-simplifying it. I would 'think' that once his dick is inside her, they're a bit past the "she's in my apartment" level of consent. Don't you? quote:
Original: Lucienne A woman saying "get your dick out of me" after you've made out with her a bit is NOT a step removed from some chick texting you the next day saying she regrets the physical contact you had the night before. Here's another example of your over-simplification. "Get your dick out of me" is a comment reserved for....well, when the dick is actually "inside." Making out is a bit different. I mean I don't know how *you* make out, but when I have considered myself to be "making out," I still had my pants on. Thus the "get your dick out of me" comment wouldn't even be necessary. And regardless of whether you want to admit it or not, it is a slippery slope. As people have already indicated in this thread, there are women who will turn around and claim rape because they woke the next day feeling like a slut and wanted to justify their actions. I've lost count of the number of horror stories I have heard where the guy said "we had a great time, a wonderful night....she gave me her number, said she'd call me for a second date. Then I woke to detectives at my door the next morning." You think it doesn't happen, but it does.
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