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RE: Raped Mistress? - 10/19/2009 9:50:23 PM   
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Eh, difficult to s with just the information given. 
I agree with those who have said violation but rape mabe a bit harsh. 
Having been in a situation that went wild awry once and feeling rather ickey afterward, I can feel for someone having those thoughts and feelings about a scenaio but I also have to say that personal responsibility factors heavily, imo. 
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RE: Raped Mistress? - 10/19/2009 9:50:55 PM   
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You are right about priapism, but some sickos on these boards think that is a good thing. ...   I was using priapism loosely.
For myself, anytime phucking lasts more than 5-15minutes, I offer to buy them the  rubber doll with the less sensitive vagina.    M

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RE: Raped Mistress? - 10/19/2009 9:57:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DavanKael

Eh, difficult to s with just the information given. 
I agree with those who have said violation but rape mabe a bit harsh. 
Having been in a situation that went wild awry once and feeling rather ickey afterward, I can feel for someone having those thoughts and feelings about a scenaio but I also have to say that personal responsibility factors heavily, imo. 
  Davan


That's kind of where I am with it too based on what she has been able to divulge. If she experiences it as rape, however, then that is where she must process the experience from, a position of having been raped. That is totally a different path than dealing with a bad decision or a violation of sorts. The legal standing is less important than what she believes. What she believes how she will heal and what it will mean to move forward.

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RE: Raped Mistress? - 10/20/2009 8:41:27 AM   
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Loki, http://www.nsvrc.org/publications/articles/false-reports-moving-beyond-issue-successfully-investigate-and-prosecute-non-s indicates the percentage of false reports is between 2-8%, with the FBI's estimate at 8%. However, those include ones where the woman simply waited a few days to report the crime, or didn't seem sufficiently distraught in the officer's subjective opinion. One woman *was* jailed and charged with false report of a rape, as well as theft, and receiving stolen property when she was attacked at gunpoint while working at a convenience store. She was held without trial for over a year, and a month before the trial date, her attacker was caught in the act of raping a different woman. She was released, and sued the police. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09093/960350-100.stm If a woman does falsely accuse someone, that is of course wrong as well, but there are far more women who are actually raped and who do not report it. As to the one-night-stand scenario you mention, if a guy wants to fuck someone he doesn't know, he's at a small but non-zero risk of getting HIV, being accused of rape, not being informed if she gets pregnant, and so forth. She's at risk of getting pregnant, getting an STD, or him doing things she didn't agree to, whether or not it crosses the line into rape. Sex with a stranger is inherently riskier than with someone you know and have developed trust for, although that isn't a panacea either.

Daven, if you didn't tell him "no," then it sounds like it didn't cross the line into rape. In this situation, it did.

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RE: Raped Mistress? - 10/20/2009 7:19:49 PM   
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It seems to me (who also has counseling experience)that this lady was raped, no consent given.

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RE: Raped Mistress? - 10/21/2009 7:07:36 PM   
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I'm going to be crunchingly straightforward about this, because I think the occasion demands it.

Firstly, she feels as though she's been violated, so that's the only 'truth' that's relevant. What lawyers think, and the legal system in general thinks, is irrelevant. Screw them. A lawyer's job is one thing, a friend's job is something else.

ShaktiSama said, earlier, that it might be difficult to empathise with a woman who's been raped because to do so would be so painful. Quite so - I'm sure that's true. However, that comment reminded me of a distinction I once heard: that empathising means feeling *with* a person; while sympathising means feeling *for* a person. My brother, an ambulance paramedic, was taught something like that that from the outset: You *do not* go with the patient's feelings - you *feel for them*. You're 'soft' enough to care, but you stay hard enough to care *effectively*.

So, it's sympathising that's important here. I'd like to think that in the situation you're in, I could put all considerations of the 'objective truth' of what happened to one side, and just work with that one 'truth' of the way she feels. Don't let it hurt me - be hard enough not to let that happen - but listen, amplify, take the journey alongside of her - sympathise.

But I'm male. I'm therefore a) unlikely ever to be raped and b) quite easily able to compartmentalise my feelings. Easier said than done for a woman who's in your position, I have no doubt.



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