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RE: One Dominants controversial thought on d/s - 3/24/2006 2:34:00 PM   
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prety well covers it

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RE: One Dominants controversial thought on d/s - 3/24/2006 2:34:01 PM   
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After all the concept of romantic love is a relatively new cultural phenomena.  


How can you make sweeping generalizations about subjective concepts?

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RE: One Dominants controversial thought on d/s - 3/24/2006 2:44:55 PM   
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Thanks for the reply. It was very interesting

Not to hijack cillydom's thread, but makes me wonder if BDSM is practiced more by the upper class or the lower class in this era. Maybe I will ask it in another thread.

thanks again.

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RE: One Dominants controversial thought on d/s - 3/24/2006 3:12:07 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: cillydom

After all the concept of romantic love is a relatively new cultural phenomena.  


How can you make sweeping generalizations about subjective concepts?

Perhaps he meant "the concept of marrying and/or making a lifelong commitment to someone based primarily on being in love with them is a relatively new cultural phenomenon"



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RE: One Dominants controversial thought on d/s - 3/24/2006 4:19:25 PM   
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Your post has certainly generated quite a bit of attention! I started skipping over around page 11.....at any rate.....I enjoyed it very much and all was thought provoking, thanks for sharing your ideas. Sure, there may have been some things I didn't agree with but I'm not going to rip your writing apart sentence by sentence finding fault in it and your line of thought.

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RE: One Dominants controversial thought on d/s - 3/25/2006 7:07:34 AM   
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The true dominant. I see a lot of discussion about what constitutes what a dominant is, true or otherwise, and there seems to be as many definitions are there are discussers. When what the discusser really means is I think so and so is or is not a true dominant. But there is no commonality as who is or is not. I think the time has come for yet another definition as to what a true dominant is. Sense what women all want/need is so personal and narrow in definition I propose the term “suitable dominant”, one that is suitable for that particular submissive woman. One womans dominant is another womans wannabe. With this definition the discussion can be personalized as to what any particular woman is seeking. She is seeking her true dominant.


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RE: One Dominants controversial thought on d/s - 3/25/2006 8:01:00 AM   
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Why a woman in her thirties and up to restrict a dominants age to close to her own may not be a good idea. Most submissive women want a dominant that has experience and maturity, so that means submissive women in their twenties want men in their thirties and into their forties. So where does that leave the thirty and forty something year old submissives? It leaves them with a dwindling pool of suitable dominants. There are many older dominants that haven’t forgotten anything and may have learned a thing or two over their younger counterparts. And with people today living longer, it’s not like they are at deaths door. There would be many fewer unattached submissive women if they reevaluated their list of priorities regarding age. And it seems that the market is becoming flooded with submissive women. And to hear their plaintive cries it would seem the the supply of suitable dominants isn’t keeping up.

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RE: One Dominants controversial thought on d/s - 3/25/2006 8:27:23 AM   
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Out of curiosity, which is it easier to be a good submissive or a good dominant?
I vote it’s easier to be submissive.

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RE: One Dominants controversial thought on d/s - 3/25/2006 12:39:06 PM   
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Limits, whose and how far? Every so often I like to write an essay on what d/s means to me, it brings it into sharper focus and is like a record of my evolution in d/s. I have been undergoing an evolution on the concept of limits. There are those that say the limits should be what the submissive says, and there are those that say the dominant sets the limits. I am in the later camp. The concept of static limits to me seems like that of a static relationship. Not growing, evolving, stuck where it was on day one. And leaving limits up to the submissive just doesn’t seem like submission to me. What if she has a change of mind and wants to raise her limits? What if her limits are further than the dominants? Whose limits are going to be pushed in this circumstances? So the concept of limits can be more challenging than first thought. So now whose limits should be pushed? I’m gravitating toward both till they reach a point of equilibrium, if that’s possible. After that point of equilibrium is reached then the dominant has some serious thinking to do on if or how much further to push the new limits.

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RE: One Dominants controversial thought on d/s - 3/25/2006 2:09:46 PM   
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There are those that say the limits should be what the submissive says, and there are those that say the dominant sets the limits. I am in the later camp.


cillydom, you are setting limits over somebody else's body? this is not merely controversial anymore. It is downright dangerous. Women could end up getting killed!

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RE: One Dominants controversial thought on d/s - 3/25/2006 2:45:15 PM   
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are life threatning acts the only limits?

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