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The funny part, the chiding tone of the PP, is just as rude, arrogant, pompous and belittling but in a very childish, passive aggressive way.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I also mentioned that at the outset, as did several others........

I am only lacking in couth, to get a green card into humanbeingness.

Ron

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ORIGINAL: lilmisssubmiss

:)
i like you.

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

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:)
i like you.

Then you would love my son- 19 years old, Eagle Scout, college sophomore (business law) part time actor, incredibly handsome, a born leader, loves animals - a great catch for some lucky girl.


heh.

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ORIGINAL: CougarStud

Good to see people here actually offering advise to this girl now.

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: CougarStud

Good to see people here actually offering advise to this girl now.

We offered her advice a year ago.  And in fact, the very first reply to this thread offered advice. 

Cali

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. Only people who sometime indulge in lying assume that everybody sometimes lies and that lying is therefore excusable. The problem with the fact that you lied once is NOT that you lied, but that you now cannot be trusted to never lie again... IOW you cannot be trusted period.

In my experience, people who claim they don't lie tend to be lying to themselves. The circumstances under which lying is excusable is a big ol messy subject. But absolutist statements such as yours, think about what you are saying - all teenagers who lie about their age to gain premature access to the privileges of adulthood cannot be trusted, period - just aren't helpful guides for dealing with the world.

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ORIGINAL: ishyB
. Only people who sometime indulge in lying assume that everybody sometimes lies and that lying is therefore excusable. The problem with the fact that you lied once is NOT that you lied, but that you now cannot be trusted to never lie again... IOW you cannot be trusted period.

In my experience, people who claim they don't lie tend to be lying to themselves. The circumstances under which lying is excusable is a big ol messy subject. But absolutist statements such as yours, think about what you are saying - all teenagers who lie about their age to gain premature access to the privileges of adulthood cannot be trusted, period - just aren't helpful guides for dealing with the world.

Actually, I have some experience with people who never ever lie. I cannot claim to be one of them myself, but I do know at least a two people who do not ever lie on principle and who has shown over a consistent period of time to be trustworthy enough to make that statement believable.

Also, it's not that I think that she is not trustworthy because she has lied, like I said, most people lie. But the fact that she justifies in her own mind that she had a good reason to lie does show -in my oppinion- that she cannot be trusted. If you can justifying lying for your own comfort and convenience in one situation, you are able to justify lying for your own comfort and convenience in another situation too.
Justifying the "rightness" or "excusible circumstances" of a lie is a different show of maturity than lying and owning the lie without making excuses as to why lying was the "right" thing to do under the circumstances... again, just my own oppinion.
I can understand somebody making a mistake and apologizing for it and wishing to move on. But making a mistake and then making excuses as to why the mistake really was not a mistake, or not so big a deal, or not an action the person be judged by... that's a whole different show of character.

I wish you well,

ishy

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse


The funny part, the chiding tone of the PP, is just as rude, arrogant, pompous and belittling but in a very childish, passive aggressive way.

Nothing about My post is passive, it should be taken as outright aggressiveness.
 
Good to see people here actually offering advise to this girl now.

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ORIGINAL: CougarStud

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse


The funny part, the chiding tone of the PP, is just as rude, arrogant, pompous and belittling but in a very childish, passive aggressive way.

Nothing about My post is passive, it should be taken as outright aggressiveness.
 
Good to see people here actually offering advise to this girl now.

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: CougarStud

Good to see people here actually offering advise to this girl now.

We offered her advice a year ago.  And in fact, the very first reply to this thread offered advice. 

Cali

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I like this-

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I don't really care what's *right or wrong* in terms of meeting up with people for the first time on the D/s front. I was speaking from a purely practical sense as a Mum of young people that age, with some younger and some older as well.

She's got a sense, as dark said, of her worth ....it's not a crime to recognise that you are an attractive prospect..Dom in the offing or not.

He's not HER her dom, unless I'm missing something ....he's a prospective one......and she's a prospective *whatever* to him and his wife. I haven't read one thing in the thread that's led me to think this is anything beyond being interested in the *prospect of*. .......and that's where MY advice has sprung from.

agirl

This is one rare case where her comment about the Dom "jumping at her feet" is exactly what I would advise her if she were my own daughter, being pursued by some guy.

In this instance, I would suggest that she aggressively demand a lot of trust-building from the couple; real names, addresses, phone numbers. She should give this info to a trusted friend before the visit, have a "safe call" to speak to when she is there, etc. Let him earn her trust.

She may be willful, disobedient, and self-centered, but as the parent of a 19 yo boy, I see that as pretty much par for the course. Scold away if it makes you feel better, but only time and the wisdom of experience really changes an adolescent.

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. (or legal) and yes i will mention that EVERY TIME I post to you. I want your prospective to know the class of liar they are getting involved with.

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All the advice given here through out this now 15 page clusterfuck, was given before post 7 in this thread. I know this, because I was post seven, and gave all this advice. Not only this... but this thread mimics almost verbatim a year old thread by the same poster, (before she was legal to be here).

(BTW) by my signature of being eighteen here, I am informed that any content on this site is the responsibility of this site to moderate that it also be legal, so, if I were to receive any legal charges on me for any thing obtained that is illegal in regard to the violation of their admissions policy, it is deferred to site owners and MY LEGAL stance are covered, because, I signed a legal contract with a site who professes to not allow illegal (minor) pornography.

So yeah, I don't have to leave! and I get to be a dick some more.

I still say cut them loose and save them the hassle of having you in their life.

Everything else has been said adnauseum and prompltly attacked for being... not what she wants to hear, until some one coddles her and tells her it's ok sweetie, it really is how they said it, just their big bad wolves and you as a disobedient subly type need some one to hold your hand through the big bad forest of the world you put yourself in before you were ready. (or legal) and yes i will mention that EVERY TIME I post to you. I want your prospective to know the class of liar they are getting involved with.