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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/7/2009 5:50:11 PM   
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I was recently diagnosed, and I'm still trying to figure out what's what. I haven't had a great deal of success, but I also haven't had a great deal of time to devote to trying to figure it out either with school, moving, what feels like millions of doctor's appointments, etc. My biggest problem is that because I seem to always be in the process of running off somewhere, "handheld" foods are just the easiest to deal with, which of course is full of carbs. Years of financial struggles have made me almost completely refuse to ever eat pasta so I cut those out easily. It's the bread that is difficult for me to cut out. I LOVE good bread. I was pretty put off by my doctor when she gave me the diagnosis because it was like, "Your fasting blood glucose came back at 136 and your A1C (or whatever) was this. So you are diabetic. Lose weight and exercise." That was it. I actually had to stop her and point out that if everything were that simple, no one would have a problem. I have various phsyical injuries that limit my exercise options and I do watch what I eat. I did get her to refer me to the local Regional Diabetes Care Center, which was terrific. Meeting with a nutrionist and a nurse regularly will be helpful.

The nurse explained to me that artificial sweeteners mean nothing. Your body will still recognize them and treat them as sugar. Since I'm not the biggest soda drinker, it's easy for me to just make a big batch of ice tea, which I prefer unsweetened anyway, or water. I have tried to limit the intake of "bad" stuff to the things I really want. The Makato Ginger Dressing that I love on my salad, for instance. Even diabetics can't cut all sugar from their diets as we all know. There are bad fruits and better fruits. For me, that means no fruit really because the fruits I do love, grapes, bananas, watermelon, pineapple are the bad. Not a big apple or pear fan.

Anyway, Steven this was a GREAT thread to start and at a great time (for me anyway). I seem to be getting my blood sugar a little bit under control, but it is slow going. MY biggest thing is that no one really explains the numbers to me that I get when testing my blood sugar. My doctor has told me what numbers she would like to see, but not whether or not I should do anything if they are extremely high at any time. I recently had a BG reading of over 300 and had no idea if I should do something about it or not.

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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/7/2009 6:29:40 PM   
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Here's 3 links that might help people better understand diabetic basics and testing numbers and a quick and easy recipe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtF53ZttQsQ  
*This 5:10 min. video gives a brief explaination for understanding glucose numbers for diabetics. 

http://onlineclasses.joslin.org/LearnAboutDiabetes_Index_home.asp 
* This is a link for the education section of The Joslin Diabetes Center's website.  If you look to the left, you'll see a listing for "online classes", this is a series of 4 free 15 min. classes on diabetes basics.  

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/healthy-recipes/NU00455
*Here's a simple white bean dip that I've tried...I like to add less lemon juice and some ground fresh sage...YUM!


EDITED TO ADD.....

Here's a interesting recipe for ginger ale made with stevia for all you soda drinkers.  I'll be trying this next week not because I'm a soda freak but because I love ginger, which, along with stevia, has been reported to help in lowering blood sugar so be sure to monitor the amount if you're on diabetes medications as you don't want a sudden drop.

Ginger ale

Ingredients:
3 1/2 cups water
3/4 cup peeled and chopped ginger root
2 TBS vanilla
1 TBS lemon extract
1/4 tsp stevia concentrate powder
Carbonated or sparkling water

How to Prepare:
Rapidly boil ginger root in water for 10 minutes. Strain and place liquid in a jar. Stir in vanilla, lemon and stevia. Cool and store in the refrigerator.

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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/7/2009 6:40:51 PM   
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It's the bread that is difficult for me to cut out. I LOVE good bread.


If you simply "must" have bread, try to stick with whole grain made without high fructose corn syrup.

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"I have various phsyical injuries that limit my exercise options and I do watch what I eat. I did get her to refer me to the local Regional Diabetes Care Center, which was terrific. Meeting with a nutrionist and a nurse regularly will be helpful.


Nutritionists can give you great suggestions for substitutes for those foods you just can't live without.

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Since I'm not the biggest soda drinker, it's easy for me to just make a big batch of ice tea, which I prefer unsweetened anyway, or water.

Try to watch the amount of caffeine you're taking in. Too much, and it affects one of my medications.

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I have tried to limit the intake of "bad" stuff to the things I really want. The Makato Ginger Dressing that I love on my salad, for instance.

Keep the salad dressing on the side and dip your fork in it, you still get the flavor, without all the extra calories and carbs.

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There are bad fruits and better fruits. For me, that means no fruit really because the fruits I do love, grapes, bananas, watermelon, pineapple are the bad. Not a big apple or pear fan.


A baked apple can be a life saver if you're craving something sweet. Take a medium sized apple. I buy red delicious in the 3 lb. bags. Wash it, and cut in half, then remove the seeds and stem. Place the apple on a baking sheet, cut side up. Spray 1 or 2 squirts of I can't believe it's not butter spray, and sprinkle lightly with cinnamon and about a teaspoon of quick oats mixed with Splenda or non sugar sweetener of your choice. Bake in a 375 F oven for about 30 minutes. This will also work with pears, it's different tasting, and not entirely unpleasant.

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Anyway, Steven this was a GREAT thread to start and at a great time (for me anyway). I seem to be getting my blood sugar a little bit under control, but it is slow going. MY biggest thing is that no one really explains the numbers to me that I get when testing my blood sugar. My doctor has told me what numbers she would like to see, but not whether or not I should do anything if they are extremely high at any time. I recently had a BG reading of over 300 and had no idea if I should do something about it or not.



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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/8/2009 9:33:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: purepleasure

If you simply "must" have bread, try to stick with whole grain made without high fructose corn syrup.


yea, I've tried the whole grain "healthy" breads, and if that were my only option, I would just do without the bread entirely. I don't often buy the bread I'm talking about, so it isn't that much of a problem, it's just one of those things that when I do have it, I want to enjoy it.

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Nutritionists can give you great suggestions for substitutes for those foods you just can't live without.


So far the nutritionist is great, although we have only met the one time. One of the big things with me is that I tend to be a meal skipper. Sometimes I just am running around so much I don't have the time to stop and eat. I'm lucky in that it doesn't cause the drastic drop in blood sugar all that often. The first thing the nutritionist gave me to work on is getting in those 3 meals a day. I would say that I am successful on that 4 out of 7 days. Weekends are the most difficult because the week is so physically exhausting, on the weekend, I often sleep well past breakfast time, and end up with 2 meals instead of 3.

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Try to watch the amount of caffeine you're taking in. Too much, and it affects one of my medications.


I actually mix a bunch of herbal teas together, so there is a minimum amount of caffeine. None of the medications I am currently on have any caffeine warnings or issues, so I don't worry about that.

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Keep the salad dressing on the side and dip your fork in it, you still get the flavor, without all the extra calories and carbs.


I typically measure out the dressing. Usually use about a serving and a half because I make big salads. I'm lucky in that I haven't had to completely give up the things I really want and have just chosen to keep things like that dressing over other things.

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A baked apple can be a life saver if you're craving something sweet. Take a medium sized apple. I buy red delicious in the 3 lb. bags. Wash it, and cut in half, then remove the seeds and stem. Place the apple on a baking sheet, cut side up. Spray 1 or 2 squirts of I can't believe it's not butter spray, and sprinkle lightly with cinnamon and about a teaspoon of quick oats mixed with Splenda or non sugar sweetener of your choice. Bake in a 375 F oven for about 30 minutes. This will also work with pears, it's different tasting, and not entirely unpleasant.


I've actually been doing something similar to this for a while. I tried it with pears because one of my son's friends who is over often (and usually likes to make this stuff) likes pears. HATED IT! The pears just tasted so yukky to me I won't ever do that again. Keeping fruit in my house tends to be a problem on the whole. My son is a big fruit eater, so that 3 lbs. bag of apples could be gone very quickly without me ever even getting to take a bite.

CarrieO:

Thanks for the links. I will be sure to check them out.

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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/9/2009 6:35:10 AM   
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How about grapefruit? I think there's less sugar in those than most other citrus fruits.

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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/9/2009 7:43:44 AM   
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How about grapefruit? I think there's less sugar in those than most other citrus fruits.


Actually, I'm not sure about the sugar content of grapefruit. I do know that grapefruit interacts poorly with a boatload of medications, decreasing their effectiveness. The little paranoid voice in my head, of course, tells me that this is because my son doesn't like grapefruit and I do, so of course it will interfere with other medications (for those who missed it, I'm joking, there is no voice in my head, just the murphy's law of teenagers).

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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/9/2009 7:47:05 AM   
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LL, you're right about being cautious about grapefruits and medications.

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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/9/2009 8:55:10 AM   
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http://forecast.diabetes.org/magazine/wellness/grapefruit-and-some-meds-dont-mix

Here's a list of some of the medications that shouldn't be mixed with grapefruit. 



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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/9/2009 6:03:46 PM   
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http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/

http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/

http://www.paleonu.com/

http://www.drbriffa.com/blog/category/healthy-eating/

http://thefitnessinsider.menshealth.com/2009/03/i-received-a-ve.html

http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/



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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/10/2009 6:07:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CarrieO

http://forecast.diabetes.org/magazine/wellness/grapefruit-and-some-meds-dont-mix

Here's a list of some of the medications that shouldn't be mixed with grapefruit. 



Thanks, Carrie. I knew that you couldn't have any grapefruit if you were on a vastin, but some of the others are a surprise. I thought it was just the cholesterol stuff there was a problem with.

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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/10/2009 6:02:11 PM   
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Level,

Those are some VERY interesting links you posted...thanks!  Lots of information to take in but, if you have more to offer I'd be interested in looking at it.

Again...thank you.

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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/10/2009 6:25:00 PM   
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Thank you, Carrie, here's a couple more:

http://www.thincs.org/

http://www.diabetes911.net/

http://www.diabetes-book.com/

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/

http://www.paleodiet.com/

http://www.westonaprice.org/

http://www.ninaplanck.com/

Carrie, if I can answer any questions, please let me know, I'd be glad to help.

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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/10/2009 6:55:06 PM   
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Again, thanks Level.  That last link for Nina Planck's site and her book "Real Food, What to Eat and Why" is one of the reasons I sought out raw milk.  I can't recommend that book enough.

I'll keep the offer of help in mind...a closed mind is a stuck mind and I have no desire to be stuck, especially where diabetes treatment is concerned!

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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/10/2009 7:10:55 PM   
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I agree, her book is fantastic :)


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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/11/2009 4:37:59 PM   
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I skipped some posts. So i'm sorry. But anyway, I got diagnosed in 2/09. I'd been going psycho and hubby got me a free glucometer. sans lunch and dinner i was 500+. so far i've been doing a restricted carb diet and managed to lose 60 lbs and get off of one of the meds.

i keep a sample of glucose stuff in my purse for crashes. when i need something sweet, i use starburst candy (only 4g of carb). I survive because of EAS Low Carb Protein drinks. Each has 1 net carb and 17+ grams of protein. excellent for before court when I can't munch all day.

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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/21/2009 8:40:59 AM   
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I wanted to bring this thread back to life and offer a new link I found

http://www.tudiabetes.org/   It's like MySpace for diabetics!  Looks like a good place for support and networking.

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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/22/2009 5:05:29 PM   
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As some of you know, I was diagnosed with diabetes a couple of months ago.  I've learned a lot in that time and was hoping to exchange tips with others.  Here are mine:

1. Wavesense makes a glucometer thsat seems to be at least as good as any other out there, and the disposable testing strips cost $10 for 100 at the Kroger chains, as opposed to the name brands that charge $100 for 100.

I got mine by asking numerous times if there was anything cheaper than $100, and if there was a generic equivalent.  I suspect that the store's profit margin was skinny on that product. 

2. I use Bragg's Liquid Aminos liberally.  Tastes like soy sauce and makes bland junk taste better, but has virtually no salt.

3. Cactus leaves are sold by Hispanics at flea markets.  I chop them up (after de-spining them) and use them in scrambled eggs.  I've found it kills my appetite.  I'll use them in tofu scramble and see how that goes.

Any other tips/suggestions?




Exercise
Test 2 hours after eating, keep good records
stay away from sinus medicines
Keep hard candy in case of sugar drops
Check with pharmacists how medications effect sugar levels


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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/22/2009 5:07:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Acer49


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

As some of you know, I was diagnosed with diabetes a couple of months ago.  I've learned a lot in that time and was hoping to exchange tips with others.  Here are mine:

1. Wavesense makes a glucometer thsat seems to be at least as good as any other out there, and the disposable testing strips cost $10 for 100 at the Kroger chains, as opposed to the name brands that charge $100 for 100.

I got mine by asking numerous times if there was anything cheaper than $100, and if there was a generic equivalent.  I suspect that the store's profit margin was skinny on that product. 

2. I use Bragg's Liquid Aminos liberally.  Tastes like soy sauce and makes bland junk taste better, but has virtually no salt.

3. Cactus leaves are sold by Hispanics at flea markets.  I chop them up (after de-spining them) and use them in scrambled eggs.  I've found it kills my appetite.  I'll use them in tofu scramble and see how that goes.

Any other tips/suggestions?




Exercise
Test 2 hours after eating, keep good records
stay away from sinus medicines
Keep hard candy in case of sugar drops
Check with pharmacists how medications effect sugar levels



Excellent ideas, even for non-diabetics like Myself. Thanx for sharing!

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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/23/2009 4:43:09 AM   
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I have a question I wonder if anyone can give me some advice. I have been doing a lot of reading about the benefits of Nitric Oxide with diabetes. I am not a sufferer, but a few loved ones are. From what I have read there seems to be some strong evidence that it is definitely beneficial for a myriad of reasons. Have you guys heard anything regarding this? Thanks in advance!!  


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RE: A thread for diabetics - 11/28/2009 3:58:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

As some of you know, I was diagnosed with diabetes a couple of months ago.  I've learned a lot in that time and was hoping to exchange tips with others.  Here are mine:

1. Wavesense makes a glucometer thsat seems to be at least as good as any other out there, and the disposable testing strips cost $10 for 100 at the Kroger chains, as opposed to the name brands that charge $100 for 100.

I got mine by asking numerous times if there was anything cheaper than $100, and if there was a generic equivalent.  I suspect that the store's profit margin was skinny on that product. 

2. I use Bragg's Liquid Aminos liberally.  Tastes like soy sauce and makes bland junk taste better, but has virtually no salt.

3. Cactus leaves are sold by Hispanics at flea markets.  I chop them up (after de-spining them) and use them in scrambled eggs.  I've found it kills my appetite.  I'll use them in tofu scramble and see how that goes.

Any other tips/suggestions?




Exercise

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