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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 4:09:13 PM   
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I don't really have anything regarding the OP.  I said all I needed to say about that on the other thread.  (There are too many too keep up with.)

I do, however, want to applaud the brave stories of the people in this thread who have dealt with their issues, and the issues of their loved ones, related to mental health.  It's a fantastic testimonial to what kind of wonderful people that you are and the strength that you have.

Thank you very much for putting your stories out there to share.


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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 4:26:28 PM   
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Words fail me Kali, thank you so much for telling your story. This meshes with what I know of psych inpatient wards, based on what I have seen of the psych ward at the hospital I work at.

Again, Kali thank you for sharing your story.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 4:29:30 PM   
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Thank you Red, for sharing your story. I cannot imagine how hard it must have been to leave Thing 1 at that hospital. It is testament to what a steel magnolia you are. I admire you far more than you will ever know or I can ever express. I'm proud to call you friend and I cannot wait to meet you!

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 4:52:46 PM   
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*hugs zephy*

I have no words... just hugs.  I can't wait to meet you either.    (thank you)

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 4:54:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

*loves my Kali more than I can say*

Signed,

Red,
mother of a bipolar child
daughter of clinically depressed parents
friend to many who are dx'ed with various maladies
personal dx: anxiety disorder mixed with depression

I am in great company, and don't feel any better or any worse than the next "crazy" person.


Red, I love you. You know exactly how I was feeling when I had no choice but to commit my brother to the mental health hospital here for 10 days this past Spring. As his sister and legal guardian, it broke my heart to do this, because it felt like I somehow failed him. However, when he came back home to us, the difference in the quality of our lives was like night and day. Fortunately, I was allowed to visit him daily, and I was there every morning to do his normal morning routines with him, he has this 'monologue" he says every morning and night, and was there every evening to do his normal evening routine with him. With his autism, retardation, bi-polar, and schizophrenia, it was important for him to know that eventually he would come home, but that he needed more help than what "Sissy" could give.

With the changes in his medications... the biggest was him no longer taking Seroquel, he is once more the lovable kid caught in an adult body. Getting his blood sugars diagnosed and under control has helped immensely.

He's now on Geodon(120 mg/day), Tegretol(400 mg/day), and Ativan (3 mg/day) for mood stabilization. And some others for diabetes, cholesterol and thyroid. Since coming off the Seroquel, he's also lost about 25 lbs, but is still very morbidly obese.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 5:08:04 PM   
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*hugs the Red one*  Awwww geez now I'm getting all tearyeyed....

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 5:34:20 PM   
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Pure, I love you, too.  As you know, we have supported each other because we just "knew."  I remember the agony and the joy of this past spring for you.  You are a pillar of strength and I admire you for the love and compassion that you show your brother and your son, as well as so many others whose lives you touch.

Sometimes, doing the hard things in faith that they will bring about positive change, is like walking down a dark road, praying that you won't fall over a cliff along the way.  Getting to the other side, seeing the benefits of all that hard work, is like the biggest gold star on our life's chart. 

My son was only 8 when this happened, and we were allowed one hour per day to visit on the weekday evenings, as long as he had a "good" day.  If he went over the top, no visits were allowed.  On the weekends, we were allowed 2 hours on Sundays.  I remember Easter that year.  My little brown-eyed beauty called the night before, in tears, asking if the Easter bunny would still remember to leave a basket for him since he was in the hospital.  That hit me so hard because it was a reminder that with all his problems, he was still a little boy, whose biggest concern was that he would have no basket of treats because he was at a hospital, and not at home.  It wasn't only me and his dad who were affected by this, but his baby sister, who at age 5, was being made aware of the reality of mental illness in her only sibling, her big brother, whom she adored.  I will never forget, the first time she was allowed to visit him, and we had to leave... she hugged and kissed him and told him she loved him.  When we all got to the car, she asked, "Will we ever get to bring him home?  If I'm bad, will you bring me to a place like this?"  I was barely able to breathe because I knew that not only was my son suffering, but my daughter was as well, because she didn't grasp all that was going on, and how could she?

My son was in-patient for 3 weeks, and out-patient for 2 weeks. 

I drove behind the ambulance that transported him to the hospital, then got lost when a traffic light separated us, and didn't get to the hospital until an hour after they did because it was 1 a.m. and I couldn't even find a convenience store to ask for directions.  My, then, husband had my cell phone - which was turned off - since he went out drinking with his co-workers, and didn't get home until 4 a.m., piss drunk.  Making the decision to sign him into treatment by myself, leaving him there by myself, driving home alone in a torrential downpour (with poor directions from the intake lady) by myself, coming into the house with out my son and getting screamed at by a drunk who is also bi-polar, walking into my parents' room, sobbing at the side of their bed as they tried to comfort me for doing what was in his best interest, and then having little tiny feet pad up next to me and a little voice ask, "Mommy, why are you crying?  Where's my brother?  Is he ok?"  Yeah... the fact that I didn't end up in a room in the adult wing is nothing short of miraculous.

However, we do what we do, in THEIR best interest... not because it is the easy thing to do.

With love,
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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 5:56:29 PM   
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Wow.

Thank God that he's doing so much better now.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 6:03:40 PM   
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Thank God, indeed. 

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 6:50:46 PM   
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Red,

I don't often post, but I have to commend you for speaking up over such a heart breaking experience (and all the others who have mentioned their own stories as well). I remember how heart breaking it was to see my brother sent to a child's unit in elementary school and seeing him and the other children and how sick many of them were. He begged to go home every night and I know it killed my parents to see it. I remember at the time thinking to myself how horrible such a place had to be and I never wanted to end up there. Ironically (and not in any good way), I've been there inpatient 3 weeks at a time three times and with a month to six weeks day-patient. My last stay was January through March this year. (Turned out to be a blessing in disguise in a lot of ways, as much as it royally sucked). Lucky me, my doctor and I decided on a change in medications that completely backfired on me. Bipolar Disorder is very frustrating to treat sometimes.

I will say (more to dispel stigma for people other than the OP) that although mental hospitals/wards are not the most funnest place in the world to be, but decent ones can help many people. Yes, some people are more obviously sick than others, but a person with severe panic attacks/anxiety or OCD may be admitted just as someone with severe depression, bipolar disorder, or PTSD, and of course Schizophrenia and such. There will be people who cause more disruption than others, and there will be people that are perfectly nice and that you might bond with to an extent even when you're both in a tough situation. They're not theme parts, and yes they do have rules (no stuffed animals, no shoelaces, nothing even close to a plastic knife until they trust that you won't try to hurt yourself, very close monitoring, small beds, etc). but those rules and those accommodations are there for a reason. With any luck I won't have to worry about another trip for many, many years (or ever again if I can help it), but again, when I needed it the hospital I was in was where I needed to be at the time to stay safe and start back to a place I could recover.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 6:56:50 PM   
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quote:

I will say (more to dispel stigma for people other than the OP) that although mental hospitals/wards are not the most funnest place in the world to be, but decent ones can help many people. Yes, some people are more obviously sick than others, but a person with severe panic attacks/anxiety or OCD may be admitted just as someone with severe depression, bipolar disorder, or PTSD, and of course Schizophrenia and such. There will be people who cause more disruption than others, and there will be people that are perfectly nice and that you might bond with to an extent even when you're both in a tough situation. They're not theme parts, and yes they do have rules (no stuffed animals, no shoelaces, nothing even close to a plastic knife until they trust that you won't try to hurt yourself, very close monitoring, small beds, etc). but those rules and those accommodations are there for a reason. With any luck I won't have to worry about another trip for many, many years (or ever again if I can help it), but again, when I needed it the hospital I was in was where I needed to be at the time to stay safe and start back to a place I could recover.


As someone who was in and out of a private mental health facility for 2 yrs during my teens (and most of the outs were..um, shall we say, AWOL...), I love this post.





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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 7:11:56 PM   
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Pure.....In case no one has told you this lately Thank You so much for what You do for Your brother..... I know You are not the only one... I know there are countless others.. I know there are mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, friends, aunts, uncles, who everyday get up and take care of a special needs person.... I personally can not imagine how difficult it must be to have to daily be such a self-less person. {And I'm told I'm pretty dang self-less.LOL}. I can not imagine how difficult it must be to just want to not be the adult all the time..to want to sit down some where..to just be done...to just have had enough...
For what you do to make their life easier.....For what you do to make my job easier...For what you do to make my world easier.....For what you do to make me be able to believe in the humanity of people....I Love You!! And APPRECIATE YOU!!!!
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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 7:13:54 PM   
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Oh wow. Now I have a huge lump in my throat and tears in my eyes.

I think I will go and look at my sleeping babies for a while, thanking the heavens to have them all safe and sound with me.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 7:32:03 PM   
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Does this mean the dog still isn't getting any exercise?

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/9/2009 4:18:24 AM   
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If you're in a pych word, and are skitzo or believing the aliens are coming or screaming so loudly non stop that staff have to come drag you naked and screaming to the silent room and you are trying to kick down the door and screaming so loudly the entire ward can you hear and they now have to come put you in shackles because you're kicking dwn the door and trying to bash your head into the wall, with the intention to break your head open and die, THOSE are people I consider crazy and that I don't belong in a ward with.

Did it occur to you that those you consider crazy might have had a very negative opinion of a 26 year old whining because the meanies on staff wouldn't let her have her stuffed animals?

I do realize you feel superior to the other patients in the psych ward. I hate to tell you...you are not.


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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/9/2009 4:18:45 AM   
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Dear Pet,

Thank you for your candor as well.  I'm glad that your stays have been productive and wish you many, many years of health and happiness.

Greedy,

I just love you...

Love, Red

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/9/2009 4:28:37 AM   
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I second that, Red. I greatly appreciate those who have come forward to tell their stories. It's good to hear from those who have had to deal with loved ones who have mental illness issues as well as those who have them. My heart goes out to each and every one of you.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/9/2009 7:43:28 AM   
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no pure, I was allowed to buy as much as I wanted and then I got sick because I was over doing the exertion since now we know but then we didn't I had a kidney infection, so I was upset at myself for buying things I didn't need, but I just smiled a bit and said well you know it's a process.


I went shopping with my mom to get a bra, and because I know know I have a kidney infection but didn't then I got real sick and couldn't go buy a bra, and a bra isn't a non essential item I am a 48 DDD And have been wandering around for almost a year with no bra, since I didn't see a need for one an then finally I was tired of my tits flapping in the wind so to speak and told my mom she could buy me one if she wanted, because she always tried an I hate her clothing sense of fashion. So we were going to buy one but I was sick.


Yup I felt a little better after a massage got some of the fluids out of my lower limbs.

I saw the pych doctor once, and felt much much better because my stress was out in the air, then I went home and told my mom some stuff that was bothering me, and no there wasn't a therapist there it was just a good mother to daughter heart to heart about how I feel she's sometimes unreasonable about somethings an we get annoyed an then she won't talk to me for weeks, and I can't hendle the nervous energy of her giving me the cold shoulder every time I try to apologize.


I'm not upset at the dr for telling the police I am a little unhappy with her insensitivity to me, and handling the issue, she scared me.

And maybe I deserve to be scared maybe it's a good thing, but due to this I will think twice before getting help again.


I have a kidney infection but we didn't know this and I thought the pych med and the allowed muscle relaxer had interacted, and james didn't think my concern was serious enough to call it in because in his mind all I wanted to tell the advice nurse was I  have dirreah when I wanted to tell her I felt sick and feverish.

He flew off the handle when I kept telling him what the dr said about if you think it's an emergency call 911,  I was gonna just talk to the advice nurse, and then go into the hospital, but he amped up the situation so much I called 911,  he then hit me in the head with something soft andI was already panicked from not feeling good, and so by the time 911 picked up I was screaming at him and they thought it was a 5150 call and not a oh my god something is wrong my stomach hurts I  think some meds interacted.


I am 26 but I am severely stunted emotionally and the new dr described me as borderline personality disorder, my toys keep me feeling safe and in control since I am emotionally 2 in a half when I am scared. I am also into ageplay because it's healthy way for me to have a child hood my abusers ripped from me many times s toys, have no bearing on actual age.


I was talked into going into the pych hospital, because the dr told me it'd be peaceful and a good break from James who was triggering some of my anxieties, and it actually made me more anxious because now I was concerned about what was going on at home, and I was concerned,  about my inability to filter noise and break down completely and get myself 5252'd which is where you assualt someone and are on hold for assualt, and in the condition I was in I wuld of snapped finally and hurt myself or someone in desperate frusteration,

No, I didn't think they were bad because they didn't cater to my whims I feel they're bad because they showed poor responce or concern to the fact that someone who was previously walking and talking healthily was now falling down had a half dead expression on her face, and couldn't talk or walk on her own.

They also let a guy who was basically sex crazed stay in a ward with women and he kept asking us all to fuck him and kept telling us he was going to show up in our room at night since we didn't have a room mate, and lets get jiggy. They knew this guy was doing this and he had no business in an open ward w/ith women.


I admit I thought it was kind of funny he was doing this, and I was wrong to think it was funny, I should of told him get away from me I am telling staff, but the fact does not change that he was trying to get all new females to fuck him.



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Please make corrections where necessary. I want to make sure I understand your situation before commenting further.

OP, you've been having problems with anxiety, anger management, depression, and diet, as well as sleep. You've also have increased stress because of money issues. This all occurred prior to any medical or psychiatric attention.

You met with your physician to discuss the abusive situation you've got going on with your boyfriend, and to get help with some mental health issues that have recently increased. After your appointment with your Dr., you had an intensive at-home therapy session. Was there a state certified counselor/advocate present for this therapy session?

You are upset with your Dr. for reporting your domestic violence situation to the police. The police came to your home to meet with you and your boyfried, but neither of you have actually spoke face to face with the police.

You started having side effects for your prescribed medication. I believe you mentioned Resperdal? These side effects included itching, dizziness, lethargy, and falling.

You went shopping with your boyfriend, and had a minor breakdown over not being able to make an unecessary purchase. However, your mood improved after getting a massage. Your legs were massaged as well, to help with some chronic edema you've been experiencing.

For some reason, a day or two later, you had a panic attack to the degree that you felt the need to self commit to a mental health facility because you did not feel safe in your own home. I believe you mentioned that it was related to a domestic violence type situation with your boyfriend.

While in this facility, you were given medication to help with the anxiety. This medication started to cause more falling, and did not alleviate your anxiety, as you were not permitted some personal items that you brought from home. I believe you mentioned some type of stuffed toys. You are 26, correct?

You feel this facility is substandard because they did not cater to your whims. I have to ask, were you denied access to a bathroom or shower? At any time was your movement restricted by physical restraints? You were permitted to leave when your Dr. determined that you were not dangerous to yourself. But, because the facility staff did not immediately notify you when your parents arrived, and you thought you did not have a ride home, it was necessary for you to call your (abusive) boyfriend at work, so that you could leave the facility immediately. Were you the only patient at the time, or were there other patients that may have had a more urgent need for the staff's attention?

Seriously, if any of the above is mis-stated, please correct as needed.



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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/9/2009 7:46:04 AM   
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estah, I am sorry for making you think I meant people in a clinic are real crazies, I meant people in the pych ward, some of them are crazy, and I can't handle being around them. It triggers my ptsd, and I don't belong in a pych ward, I belong in a clinic, i what I meant to say.
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Topping,


You want to be careful how you word things, regardless of if you are drugged up or not. I said what I just said with the aim to make you realise, WORDS CAN HURT. A person is not a 'real crazy' as you put it, just because they are in a clinic. They are people who like you their problems.


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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/9/2009 7:47:55 AM   
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that was a mistake someone talked me into going and I didn't believe my gut and my fear, next time I'll go into a clinic, but NOT a pych ward.
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I do not belong locked up in a place with people who see things hear things hallicinate or are truely crazy.


But sweetie you self admitted, you said that yourself.


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