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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 5:45:27 PM

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*cracks knuckles* I shall get to work at once!

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 5:53:59 PM

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*cracks knuckles* I shall get to work at once!

Hell no, he wants to know if they're real....and I assure you they are....let him come see for himself

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 5:55:14 PM

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You do have heath insurance right? I am none too gentle in my examinations. Battle scars are carried by many females, along with a radiant expression. Aquatic can come along to assist me :->

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Or better yet you could come check them out yourself, Orion *very very cheeky grin*

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 5:59:03 PM

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You do have heath insurance right? I am none too gentle in my examinations. Battle scars are carried by many females, along with a radiant expression. Aquatic can come along to assist me :->

Of course....so when can I expect you? Wear boots, it snowed recently

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 6:10:30 PM

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You do have heath insurance right? I am none too gentle in my examinations. Battle scars are carried by many females, along with a radiant expression. Aquatic can come along to assist me :->

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Or better yet you could come check them out yourself, Orion *very very cheeky grin*

Assist nothing... I need fresh scars!

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 6:18:24 PM

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You do have heath insurance right? I am none too gentle in my examinations. Battle scars are carried by many females, along with a radiant expression. Aquatic can come along to assist me :->

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

Or better yet you could come check them out yourself, Orion *very very cheeky grin*

Assist nothing... I need fresh scars!

Hey you already have a source for scars....or wait did you mean giving me scars? Vaaaaaaaaaaal come get your slave she needs to be punished!

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 6:32:21 PM

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I gotta be honest folks. I've never been one to dismiss people with phrases like 'calling oneself' a slave or master or whatever.

Well, that's not true. I have, but I'm trying to grow out of it, because I dont think this is right. I think if we need to get vicious with people, right or wrong, it shows a certain lack of security in our own beliefs.

But on the topic, it's pretty straightforward. The more vulnerable you have the capacity to be, the more you'll learn to protect it where it's not safe. As a dominant the girl who falls on her knees and worships me when I walk through the door means nothing to me if she's going to do the exact same thing to the next guy who comes in behind me.

You want real power exchange you have to be willing to go through the work of creating that safe place for them to express it. Just like if you want newbies to be respectful of old timers, you have to stop bashing them for being wrong and making them defensive.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 6:33:56 PM

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My girl hasn't consented to involving other people in our d/s and I most certainly haven't consented to it. So if a random person demands she enter into a d/s dynamic with them or harasses her for not doing so, not only would I support her telling them off I would expect it.

I have no problem with goreans having their lifestyle and interacting in that dynamic with other goreans. But when that dynamic is applied to other people non-consensually, that isn't OK and one shouldn't be terribly surprised when they aren't OK with it.

edited to add: my post isn't in response to anything Orion said, sorry if the fast reply makes it seem that way.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 6:36:00 PM

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Hey you already have a source for scars....or wait did you mean giving me scars? Vaaaaaaaaaaal come get your slave she needs to be punished!

Hey... scenes with mutiple masters and slaves are always hot in my humble little opinion. Get two squirming little things and tie them together....

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 6:37:40 PM

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Hey... scenes with mutiple masters and slaves are always hot in my humble little opinion. Get two squirming little things and tie them together....

...at all the joints, with their hands stuck between 'em... and a length of chainmail rope running between each one's legs...and a screwdriver to rub on the chain

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 6:39:10 PM

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Get two squirming little things and tie them together....

Snakes are a hard limit!!!!

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 6:40:47 PM

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Get two squirming little things and tie them together....

Snakes are a hard limit!!!!

*must... resist... making... trouser snake jokes.... *

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 6:42:42 PM

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Get two squirming little things and tie them together....

Snakes are a hard limit!!!!

*must... resist... making... trouser snake jokes.... *

So if you made extra comments, would they be trouser snake addendums?

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 6:51:33 PM

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So if you made extra comments, would they be trouser snake addendums?

You have the balls to ask that question!!!?

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 9:48:46 PM

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I am still confused every time someone brings Gorean into a discussion here.

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My girl hasn't consented to involving other people in our d/s and I most certainly haven't consented to it. So if a random person demands she enter into a d/s dynamic with them or harasses her for not doing so, not only would I support her telling them off I would expect it.

I have no problem with goreans having their lifestyle and interacting in that dynamic with other goreans. But when that dynamic is applied to other people non-consensually, that isn't OK and one shouldn't be terribly surprised when they aren't OK with it.

edited to add: my post isn't in response to anything Orion said, sorry if the fast reply makes it seem that way.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/1/2009 11:47:18 PM

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I am still confused every time someone brings Gorean into a discussion here.

I think GotSteel is convinced that the OP and Eig are Gorean and trying to enforce Gorean ideals on those of us who aren't Gorean.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/2/2009 2:50:46 AM

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I am still confused every time someone brings Gorean into a discussion here.

He didn't, Orion. It's just that his post says "in reply to OrionTheWolf" and he wanted to make clear that it wasn't.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/2/2009 4:49:24 AM

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But he did, and this is what confuses me. I think Aqua's explanation may be closer, though GotSteel may clarify.

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I have no problem with goreans having their lifestyle and interacting in that dynamic with other goreans. But when that dynamic is applied to other people non-consensually, that isn't OK and one shouldn't be terribly surprised when they aren't OK with it.

edited to add: my post isn't in response to anything Orion said, sorry if the fast reply makes it seem that way.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/2/2009 4:58:21 AM

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Because they feel they "need" to be punished for a misbehaving in real life; or because someone has brainwashed them to believe that all that they deserve, is to be treated like shit, or to make "penance" for a "wrong doing".

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/2/2009 10:21:01 AM

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Frankly, Orion, for those not versed in the careful distinctions & technicalities, the 'men-innately-superior' thing & some of the 'slave protocol-ish' stuff can sound Gorean, so I can understand why the less-schooled could misunderstand the differences . . .. .

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

But he did, and this is what confuses me. I think Aqua's explanation may be closer, though GotSteel may clarify.

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

I have no problem with goreans having their lifestyle and interacting in that dynamic with other goreans. But when that dynamic is applied to other people non-consensually, that isn't OK and one shouldn't be terribly surprised when they aren't OK with it.

edited to add: my post isn't in response to anything Orion said, sorry if the fast reply makes it seem that way.

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