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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 3:20:07 PM

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we DID contribute to this thread! we did! we did!

Yup. We're just the Rosie the Riveters of the BDSM world....

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 3:21:27 PM

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If'n i knew what that meant, i might be insulted...

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 3:24:13 PM

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Rosie was created during WWII to help motivate women into entering the factories to make planes, tanks, etc since most of the able-bodied men were fighting. :-)

If I knew how to be cool and put a picture of her in here, I would.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 3:32:49 PM

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Quite possible, zeph. However, i think we've given a fair example of the aggression of slaves. we DID contribute to this thread! we did! we did!

Unh Huh yes we did. I think we were perfect examples of how aggressive slaves are.....when motivated and not at the feet of their owner of course. If I had tried this when I was owned I would have gotten a good whupping for saying some of the things I said here.

Here's to being unowned, woohoo!!!!!!

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 3:36:02 PM

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ummmm not me. i'm allowed to speak my mind to others, just not to Him, unless He gives me permission.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 3:37:23 PM

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Ditto 'cept I'm allowed to speak my mind to Val as well. He wants to know what is going on in there.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 3:41:50 PM

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The men I've been owned by let me speak my mind.....to a point. I definately wasn't allowed to act in a way the OP would call aggressive although I could say such things to my owner. Somehow it's just not the same thing

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 3:48:41 PM

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I'm just a mindless male submissive and am not permitted, nor do I want to have an opinion..*grin*

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 4:01:29 PM

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I'm just a mindless male submissive and am not permitted, nor do I want to have an opinion..*grin*

Yeah right.....try again

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 4:05:55 PM

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koff doormat much? koff

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 4:08:13 PM

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koff doormat much? koff

Hey I am NOT a doormat. You take that back

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 4:10:58 PM

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i'm sorry, zeph. i do take it back. That was not meant for you.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 4:16:30 PM

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Thank you *sniff*

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 4:20:56 PM

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My girl may speak her mind as well, but she had better watch how she speaks it. It is not emotions or ideas that are bad, but how they are conveyed can be. I do not hold my girl accountable for her emotions or ideas, but I do for her actions. This is where many get confused, as some M/D/whatever type will act a jackass, a s/s/whatever will call them on it, and then they say the slave is being aggressive, when in fact the M/D/whatever needs to take responsibility for acting a jackass.

Are we back on topic now, and not hijacking? If so, I will sneak in - no need for lines, I can handle a flogger, whip, crop, cane, etc. in each hand. In fact for a local BDSM club (many years ago) I put laser lights in the handles of two floggers, combined with bound girl, fog maker, and thumping, sexual music it made for a very good show.

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Ditto 'cept I'm allowed to speak my mind to Val as well. He wants to know what is going on in there.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 4:30:53 PM

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i am only allowed to speak my mind when He says so. He is mostly a selfish jackass. Yes, this makes me aggressive, but is only a small part of the reason why i've been what i've come to look at as "conditionally released". *shrug* As my aggression goes away, His attention seems to be coming back. Will i desire it, though, once He has deemed i am worthy of it? *another shrug*

And, yes, i do believe this is on topic.

Orion, i would like front row seats for that if You do it again...or, um, i have been approached about being a "model" in other ways. *evil grin* Just sayin...

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 4:49:45 PM

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as some M/D/whatever type will act a jackass, a s/s/whatever will call them on it, and then they say the slave is being aggressive, when in fact the M/D/whatever needs to take responsibility for acting a jackass.

That's exactly it, Orion. I think that a lot of what the OP called slaves being aggressive was simple him being called for his behavior/bs.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 5:27:03 PM

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My girl may speak her mind as well, but she had better watch how she speaks it. It is not emotions or ideas that are bad, but how they are conveyed can be. I do not hold my girl accountable for her emotions or ideas, but I do for her actions. This is where many get confused, as some M/D/whatever type will act a jackass, a s/s/whatever will call them on it, and then they say the slave is being aggressive, when in fact the M/D/whatever needs to take responsibility for acting a jackass.

Agreed. For us, he expects me to do my utmost to take everything into account, to attempt respect and tact first and only result to more blunt measures if needed. And he is man enough to admit that sometimes he needs someone to go "Sir, I love you dearly but you have got to get away from the computer chair or else I will have to pull the plug for your own good Sir!"

LOL - He just read this. I asked him if it was accurate and he laughed and said "A little too accurate!"

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Are we back on topic now, and not hijacking? If so, I will sneak in - no need for lines, I can handle a flogger, whip, crop, cane, etc. in each hand. In fact for a local BDSM club (many years ago) I put laser lights in the handles of two floggers, combined with bound girl, fog maker, and thumping, sexual music it made for a very good show.

So... does this make you like the one-man band guy?

I so wanna be the drum...

-Aqua

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 5:40:48 PM

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I have to speak my mind. If I don't, he doesn't know where I'm at, or what I need. He isn't a mind reader.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 11:04:42 PM

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 12/3/2009 11:15:52 PM

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My master DEMANDS I speak my mind to him. He has to know whats going on in there. He is constantly asking me to articulate my feelings. More than anyone else I have ever met. If he doesn't like what I'm thinking/feeling, he doesn't get angry, but he will tell me he isn't pleased and take steps to remedy the situation. He wouldn't stand for me lying by omission, or keeping my mouth shut about something, just to please him. Our goal is complete transparency from both ends. It isn't easy.

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Ditto 'cept I'm allowed to speak my mind to Val as well. He wants to know what is going on in there.

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