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walkonme10 -> female Supremecy (12/7/2009 7:40:38 PM)

Is it right that I want to give me, my soul to Female Supremecy? My friends know that this is what a big part of my life is and they say that I am mad, but I don't think I am it is something that I strongly beleive in. It is not just about sex to me but the fullfilment that I get from making life more easy for someone who is Female, I can't help it and I don't know where it has come from but I can always remember feeling this way and am not sure why but I go with it and I have found that it is something that I love to do and it drives me forward.




ctsub2003 -> RE: female Supremecy (12/7/2009 7:51:12 PM)

I agree w/ you, I very much want a loving FemDom/Female Supremacy dynamic- I need to be told what to do by a dominant woman who has my best interest at hear and is satisfying her own needs and desires w/ her chosen "boy". However, I won't submit to just any woman, she has to earn my trust. Many on here are just playing games, thinking that since they own a whip, they are true Queens...pathetic really

Anyway, I think you are on the right track. Good luck!




walkonme10 -> RE: female Supremecy (12/7/2009 8:10:50 PM)

thankyou, but I don't think the part where you said the true queens will go down very well at all, sorry if this person has offended anyone but thankyou for your words my friend.




Venatrix -> RE: female Supremecy (12/7/2009 8:12:13 PM)

Well, the idea behind female supremacy is that all females are inherently superior to all males, which quite clearly is as much rubbish as saying one race is inherently superior to another.  Don't let the fact that there are some incredibly fabulous women out there, such as I, give you a skewed viewpoint. [:D]

Edited to add:  I meant to reply to the OP.  Damned happy fingers again.




LadyAngelika -> RE: female Supremecy (12/7/2009 8:14:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: walkonme10

Is it right that I want to give me, my soul to Female Supremecy? My friends know that this is what a big part of my life is and they say that I am mad, but I don't think I am it is something that I strongly beleive in. It is not just about sex to me but the fullfilment that I get from making life more easy for someone who is Female, I can't help it and I don't know where it has come from but I can always remember feeling this way and am not sure why but I go with it and I have found that it is something that I love to do and it drives me forward.


First thing, you are in ask a Domme so I'm assuming that you would like a Dominant woman's perspective on this.

First things first, regardless of anyone else's opinion, your feelings and desires are yours, and as long as you are being honest with yourself, they are authentic.

That being said, I don't personally believe in female supremacy. I don't believe that any individual is supreme because of their gender, race, social standing, physical ability, intelligence, etc. I do however believe that some people do make better life choices than others, therefore make better examples for others. But that is a completely individual thing.

Now I think that it is completely beautiful when a man finds a woman that he wants to surrender and serve. I mean, I'm a little biased that way ;-) But not all women are worthy of your servitude. And when you find that special woman, she might not be interested in you thinking that all women are supreme. She might want you to have eyes only for her. Then again, she might be into it as much as you and you'll be a match made in female supremacy heaven. I think though that you'll perhaps find that female supremacy is more of a fantasy then a reality for most, but as always, ymmv!

- LA




AttendToYou -> RE: female Supremecy (12/7/2009 8:35:27 PM)

While I do believe that all humans are equal to each other, there is something about the fantasy of female supremecy where it feels right to act as if it is true. Or maybe better said: The man is surrending to the female sexuality of the woman, which he sees as worthy of that kind of adoration and servitude.




Arrogance -> RE: female Supremecy (12/7/2009 8:38:15 PM)

While the idea of Female Supremacy is somewhat ludicrous, I'm a tepid supporter of it for the simple fact that there is a lot of inequity in Western society that is beneficial to men. I support a movement elevating women because it works towards equity. After that's achieved, then yeah... no female supremacy or empowerment necessary.

Black, white, male, or female supremacy are all fantasy talk.




Lockit -> RE: female Supremecy (12/7/2009 9:40:30 PM)

I do not believe that because of the lacks in others or an unfair society thing, that I should get special treatment in place of whatever is a wrong. I can tend to myself and whatever is unfair and have made my way without special treatment. Equal pay would have been nice, but even there I didnt have too many problems. I just watched men demand more and said... well... that was easy. Know your worth and expect to get it and I did and they gave it to me.

I am not superior to other human beings. I may be better than some in some ways, I may be worse than others in other ways, but... I do not want special treatment unless I deserve it. In fact... I suspect special treatment typically.




Arrogance -> RE: female Supremecy (12/7/2009 9:45:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

I do not believe that because of the lacks in others or an unfair society thing, that I should get special treatment in place of whatever is a wrong. I can tend to myself and whatever is unfair and have made my way without special treatment. Equal pay would have been nice, but even there I didnt have too many problems. I just watched men demand more and said... well... that was easy. Know your worth and expect to get it and I did and they gave it to me.

I am not superior to other human beings. I may be better than some in some ways, I may be worse than others in other ways, but... I do not want special treatment unless I deserve it. In fact... I suspect special treatment typically.


I meant less so in actual treatment and perks and more so in existential-type concepts.

Probably silly either way.




Lockit -> RE: female Supremecy (12/7/2009 9:54:41 PM)

I get what you were trying to say and it's a great thought... sweet even... kind of trying to even things out and very realistic at the same time in seeing that we really aren't superior! It's all good! lol Just not needed, at least for me. lol




dreamerdreaming -> RE: female Supremecy (12/7/2009 10:32:09 PM)

OP, your blatant sexism is offensive to me.

Its just so wrong.





PeonForHer -> RE: female Supremecy (12/8/2009 1:48:33 AM)

While the notion of female supremacy is obviously drivel . . .

quote:

ORIGINAL: AttendToYou

While I do believe that all humans are equal to each other, there is something about the fantasy of female supremecy where it feels right to act as if it is true. Or maybe better said: The man is surrending to the female sexuality of the woman, which he sees as worthy of that kind of adoration and servitude.


. . . this is good. Very nicely put. I'd swap 'femininity', or some such, for 'female sexuality', though.




CarrieO -> RE: female Supremecy (12/8/2009 6:07:35 AM)

OP,

Whether or not you choose to "believe" in female supremacy, that's your choice.  What others say or feel really, in the end, makes no difference.  If your beliefs and those of your Lady's mesh...what more do you need?

That being said, I have a problem with any gender or race or any other group claiming supremacy over another. I also find it interesting the amount of male subs who state their belief in FS as opposed to the amount of Dommes who claim they don't.  I have to wonder if it's what AttendToYou made mention of ...

quote:


While I do believe that all humans are equal to each other, there is something about the fantasy of female supremecy where it feels right to act as if it is true. Or maybe better said: The man is surrending to the female sexuality of the woman, which he sees as worthy of that kind of adoration and servitude.


The fantasy of FS vs the acting as if towards the woman the man surrenders to.  I like the quote above...that would work for me instead of a man who will feel "less than" for any woman simply based on gender.

That may take a bit more time to flesh out than I have right now but it is something I see fairly regularly.




OttersSwim -> RE: female Supremecy (12/8/2009 7:28:54 AM)

I reserve the word "Supreme" for things like tacos, nachos, and turkey...

Most Ladies I have met don't want your adoration just because of their plumbing...they want it because they are awesome human beings and have worked hard to become so.

Plus, the concept when pushed by the male is a classic example of topping from the bottom.  [8|]




allthatjaz -> RE: female Supremecy (12/8/2009 9:18:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

While the notion of female supremacy is obviously drivel . . .

quote:

ORIGINAL: AttendToYou

While I do believe that all humans are equal to each other, there is something about the fantasy of female supremecy where it feels right to act as if it is true. Or maybe better said: The man is surrending to the female sexuality of the woman, which he sees as worthy of that kind of adoration and servitude.


. . . this is good. Very nicely put. I'd swap 'femininity', or some such, for 'female sexuality', though.


I was talking to someone about just this the other day.
Female supremacy is no more a fact than male supremacy.... however most males are more physically strong than women. Most men could overpower a woman physically and most men are aware of this. Making a female supreme in their minds eye takes away the reality of man versus woman. In ancient times a Godessi was the higher archie, the untouchable for all but a few. She was a supreme being over men and nobody would of questioned it.
Making a woman supreme is to put ones head in an emotional state so that her dominance is realistic.
When I dominate I need to feel superior. I can not for a moment believe that we are both equal because if I do it all starts to feel a bit silly.

Otter... no matter how hard I work I will never earn supremacy over another...not in the real world. I may earn respect but not supremacy. Believing I am superior over men is ridiculous but believing I am superior over my sub is crucial... at least to me




GYPSYMAMBO -> RE: female Supremecy (12/8/2009 10:20:33 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: walkonme10

. It is not just about sex to me but the fullfilment that I get from making life more easy for someone who is Female, I can't help it and I don't know where it has come from

wow..THIS is NOT unusual [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m28.gif[/image]..it is called a man and a woman in a relationship based on mutual respect..warmth and caring.




OttersSwim -> RE: female Supremecy (12/8/2009 10:49:00 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: allthatjaz

Otter... no matter how hard I work I will never earn supremacy over another...not in the real world. I may earn respect but not supremacy. Believing I am superior over men is ridiculous but believing I am superior over my sub is crucial... at least to me


I see and understand your distinction.  I said "adoration" and meant it as such.  The desire in a male to submit to a female must come from Her "inspiration" to have him submit, and his willingness to do so based on his perception of her "merit" as a person and as a potential dominant.

To take a commanding position over someone's life, you certainly must be aware of your competency to do so.  So too must the person you are presuming to take command over.

To my mind, the "Female Supremacy" fantasy is too often used in the same way that the "Forced Feminization" fantasy is used - as a way to "justify" and "rationalize" and not make a male face what he is actually doing - turning over power in his life to a female.

Cause ya'know...that just ain't manly at all, no sir...  [8|]




GYPSYMAMBO -> RE: female Supremecy (12/8/2009 11:06:14 AM)

quote:

all that jazz

Most men could overpower a woman physically and most men are aware of this. Making a female supreme in their minds eye takes away the reality of man versus woman.

This has nothing to do with supremacy of a being..other than for breeding purposes perhaps in cave days...wow
 

 
 
In ancient times a Godessi was the higher archie, the untouchable for all but a few. She was a supreme being over men and nobody would of questioned it. 



THIS IS ABSOLUTLEY WRONG....
I am assuming your mean hierarchy??not archie and veronica>.?/
 
THE DIVINE was  a FEMININE figure for 20,ooo years..ACCESSABLE..mothering ...caring nurturing..the giver of life..regenerative..
 
 GODDESS figure/artifacts and drawings show this to be so until about 3000+ years ago.

There was not a RANKING system of one over another...or rulers...or matriarchs..
but rather MATRI-FOCAL...MOTHER FOCUSED groups.
Humans lives in partenership with no evidence of rape..warfare ........stealing etc.
 
GODDESS WAS NOT UNTOUCHABLE..but accessable to all..a spirit within everything alive..and seen as benevolent...
SHE WAS NOT SUPREME OVER MEN...
SHE watched over all...
She was supreme in the sense of exerting  influence and quality of life.
 
 
MALE/FEMALE PRINCIPLES WERE NOT POLARIZED BUT MANIFEST SIDE BY SIDE
THE MALE PRINCIPLE WAS FULLY REAlized and not subordinate..
 
GODDESS archetypes/symbols or aspects of the inner self in early times were loving..caring...nurturing...UNTIL male rule took place starting with the waves of KURGANs on horse in the steppes of Russia..
 
As things progressed...MYTHS were re-written,words diabolized and women and earth suppressed,oppressed and raped to reflect a DOMINATOR RATHER THAN
PARTNERSHIP ways...
 Earth Mother was replaced by an angry..vengeful sky god...
 
and here we are...

 
Civilizations of the GODDESS..GIMBUTUS
WHEN GOD Was A WOMAN..STONE
CATUL Hoyuk-Mellart
THe Chalice and the BLADE/-EISLER
Neolithic Society of the near east-Platt
Quest for Mythic Mother..Orenstein
Myth, religion and MOther rRte..MAnheim
WOMAN SPIRIT RISING C.CHRIST
THE WHITE GODDESS..GRAVES
THE EARLY CIVILIZATIONS OF EUROPE- GIMBUTUS
Supressed Her-story..Dashu
 
 
GM
 note..excuse spelling as some of YOU know..I am 1/3 [8D]
 
 
 





LadyPact -> RE: female Supremecy (12/8/2009 11:39:12 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: walkonme10

Is it right that I want to give me, my soul to Female Supremecy?
My friends know that this is what a big part of my life is and they say that I am mad, but I don't think I am it is something that I strongly beleive in. It is not just about sex to me but the fullfilment that I get from making life more easy for someone who is Female, I can't help it and I don't know where it has come from but I can always remember feeling this way and am not sure why but I go with it and I have found that it is something that I love to do and it drives me forward.

I can't say whether it is right or wrong for you.  Personally, I don't believe in any form of supremacy that is nothing more than the particular conditions of a person's birth.  That includes things such as gender, skin color, or any other thing that was essentially determined by DNA. 




Ladynslave -> RE: female Supremecy (12/8/2009 3:41:50 PM)

Only you can say if it is right for you or not.  If it makes you happy, then it is right.  If there is something about it that makes you feel mad (and I assume by mad you mean crazy), then it is probably wrong.  But only you can determine what works in your own life.  We can tell you all kinds of ways that it will be right or wrong, but in the end you will make your own decision and have to live with it.




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