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young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 2:36:51 PM   
XXlittlegirlXX


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So i've been on and off collarme for over a year. I'm a switch,but i'm trying to find that bond with someone,whether it be a true lover one,or a good friendship one with the understanding of where we stand. Dom or sub. This has been very hard,not what i thought it would be.
Of course we all know that there is way more men on this site,also a lot of females are pro dommes. What about us broke little girls?
Well beside all that, let me tell you this....

i have came across about 3-4 doms online from this site. One i was brought to him on yahoo by a ''slave'' of his,when to this date i believe it was just him. The others,we talk,we see what our interests are and get a feel for each other. I wouldn't mind relocated in florida,but out of florida is alittle much for me at this momment. That does not make me feel comfortable,unless however that Dom came to see me,and after a while,we realized it was meant to be. This,of course was not the right thing to say to these Doms.
I denied their offer to move to (un)god knows where,with a person i haven't met before? That sounds very comfortable.
How about the fact they won't send me a picture,or go on webcam? They call me shallow,and tell me that BDSM isn't about being shallow. Supposely BDSM isn't about what the ''slave'' whats.

I thought this was a team effort,a balance between the true right?

Well after talking,and realizing i said no,i think i'd rather stay in florida properly of course. BUT no,i get insulted,tell me i'll never be helped, i don't know what the ''real lifestyle'' is, i'm a wannabie,a player.

Now,this does not sound like a true dom to me. How about you ?

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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 2:48:00 PM   
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Now,this does not sound like a true dom to me.


*sigh*...


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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 2:51:46 PM   
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Are you saying you would relocate for a guy whom you barely know?  Seriously?

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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 2:53:51 PM   
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I think you're going to take some heat for looking for "true" anything. There's not a committee somewhere writing up rules and regulations... or there might be, but their authority is limited to their mother's basement.

So far, what you've found doesn't work for you, and you feel a little down- that's what I'm taking away. My only advice is to pick yourself up, dust off, and keep moving forward. Keep talking to new people. Keep enjoying every moment you can while you're on this spinning ball of insanity, and let whatever comes, come. You can't get too hyper-focused on finding someone, or worry too much about spending time alone.

Somewhere, there's someone who hits everything you want. Just don't get more frustrated than you need to, or get discouraged by the way things work out.




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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 2:56:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Are you saying you would relocate for a guy whom you barely know?  Seriously?


Guess that means I'm not moving in with you, huh Katy *goes to unpack suitcase*


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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 3:01:21 PM   
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I'm not sure what you are hoping to get from this post. Commiseration about how you have to talk to a lot of jerks before you find that one person who is a good match for you? Trust me, everyone here who is single gets frustration at times with the jerks. Whether you are meeting them on this site, at a munch, in a bar or at a local church function. Jerks are everywhere. Male and female.

Are you hoping someone will have the magic solution to keep this from happening? Sorry. Kind of how the world as a whole works. Keep looking, tell those who give you the various lines of bull shit, "ok, so we aren't a match, good luck in your search," and move on. Eventually you will find who you are looking for. You are very young, there is plenty of time. Nothing happens overnight.

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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 3:04:19 PM   
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I'm glad you're not so young to fall for something like this. Dust yourself off, learn from it. Ever get emails asking you to send your bank account money to Ethiopia so that some deposed monarch can transfer billions of dollars to you?  You met the kink equivalent.  And yes, the ruse you described with "slave" and dom being the same person does happen, and often. 

And there is nothing shallow about wanting to see the person you're considering having a relationship with!!! Good lord!  Attraction is a REAL thing, just because someone is kinky does NOT make them the right match for you, but there are plenty of people out there who will try to guilt you or convince you otherwise.  Don't listen. 

Good luck to you, it  can all work out! My advice, for what it's worth is just don't rush, and  to put your psychological and emotional needs above the kink in importance. 


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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 3:12:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SmokingGun82

I think you're going to take some heat for looking for "true" anything. There's not a committee somewhere writing up rules and regulations... or there might be, but their authority is limited to their mother's basement.



Well said. When people start posting issues that include phrases such as 'brought to him on Yahoo', I get a little worried about their focus or lack thereof on reality.
 
To the OP, what you do online should be about 1% of what you experience in life, including your sexuality and kink. Yes you can 'meet' people, but step 2 is to get out there and meet them in actuality - in a group and safe manner. Relocating to a cyberdom is asking to be left alone in an airport or end up in a drum of acid.
 
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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 3:27:33 PM   
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So you've hung around CM for over a year and not had any luck? None at all? That seems kind of crazy considering that you are seemingly a young attractive woman. Your inbox has got to be bursting with mail about every day. Plus the interests you have listed in your profile are all kink...every single one is based in kink and/or sex. This just isn't all that typical of a woman.

A young attractive woman who just seems to want sex and kink should have people all over her and you'd have the pick of the bunch. If what you are finding are players and online wankers then the common denominator is you. You have a large population to choose from, maybe look at who you are choosing to talk to and why.

One more thing, I'm confused about the fact that you are talking about male Doms in your post but in your very short profile you say you want a Mistress...?

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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 4:31:37 PM   
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Finding a partner is never easy. Or do you know lots of people who decide one day it's about time they got married, and they found the right person that night? Because I don't.

I don't know why you thought it would be easier here than elsewhere.

Figure out what you need in a partner, in a relationship. Go to local munches if you don't want to relocate. You may not meet anyone but you may make friends who know the perfect guy for you. It works the same here as in the vanilla world.

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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 4:33:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: XXlittlegirlXX

So i've been on and off collarme for over a year. I'm a switch,but i'm trying to find that bond with someone,whether it be a true lover one,or a good friendship one with the understanding of where we stand. Dom or sub. This has been very hard,not what i thought it would be.
Of course we all know that there is way more men on this site,also a lot of females are pro dommes. What about us broke little girls?
Well beside all that, let me tell you this....

i have came across about 3-4 doms online from this site. One i was brought to him on yahoo by a ''slave'' of his,when to this date i believe it was just him. The others,we talk,we see what our interests are and get a feel for each other. I wouldn't mind relocated in florida,but out of florida is alittle much for me at this momment. That does not make me feel comfortable,unless however that Dom came to see me,and after a while,we realized it was meant to be. This,of course was not the right thing to say to these Doms.
I denied their offer to move to (un)god knows where,with a person i haven't met before? That sounds very comfortable.
How about the fact they won't send me a picture,or go on webcam? They call me shallow,and tell me that BDSM isn't about being shallow. Supposely BDSM isn't about what the ''slave'' whats.

I thought this was a team effort,a balance between the true right?

Well after talking,and realizing i said no,i think i'd rather stay in florida properly of course. BUT no,i get insulted,tell me i'll never be helped, i don't know what the ''real lifestyle'' is, i'm a wannabie,a player.

Now,this does not sound like a true dom to me. How about you ?


Okay. I'm going to try and respond to this in the spirit in which it was intended and hopefully avoid the "real & true" dom snarkfest that typically happens in response to these threads.

As I understand it, what you're saying that you are a switch who is looking on CM  for a male dom for a long-term relationship based on compatibility, understanding and shared interests and that after about a year of effort you are dissatisfied with the responses you've been getting. They are, in your opinion, way too demanding way too early, offer little to nothing about thesmelves while wanting pictures, relocation, whatever from you with no reciprocation, mutual sharing or any indication of interest. You find this disturbing and wonder where the male Dominants who are also seeking long-term relationships based on shared interests (kink and non-kink)?

Do I have this right?

Well ... the problem is you

What do I mean? Work with me here:

You say you're a switch. Your profile claims you are a female slave.
You say you've been on CM for over a year. Your profile says your join date is December 13, 2009 - that's 22 days ago.
You say you're looking for a Dom and not finding any. Your profile says you're looking for a Domme, a couple or a female switch. It doesn't even mention Doms.

So ... if you're looking for a male Dom, your profile is designed to self-select for those male Doms who do not read profiles, who pay no attention to your interests, who pay no attention to what you're actively seeking and who use the search function to look for all women rather than those women who are seeking a "Dominant Man" - i.e. the only men who are ever going to write to you based on your profile are men who are part of a couple and idiot loser jerks who just spam every female profile they can find.

You with me here? Were I to do a search your profile would never come up because I deliberately only look for women who are interested in Dominant Men. If I stumbled across your profile by sheer accident, I would discount it since you specifically say "Little masochistic girl in search of the right Mistress". I pay you the courtesy of assuming that you know what you're looking for and I assume most reasonable Doms do as well.

Even if you corrected those rather glaring errors (if what you really want is a male Dom), your profile actually tells very little about who you are. The only information one can glean from your profile is that you are female, masochistic and what kinks you are into. While this wll attract guys in a general sense, someone who is hoping for a real relationship (pardon me for use the dreaded "real" term but I couldn't find another adjective that sounded right) is going to want to know something about who you are and what you're into - whether it's Nascar, macrame, world of warcraft or whatever. Watching someone do the dishes naked or down on all fours on the rug and begging is an amazing turn on but, in all honesty, after a couple of months if there's nothing else - if there's nothing to talk about, nothing to discuss, nothing to share except chores, sex and the bills, the mind begins to wander. Once the minds wanders, the sex starts happening with less frequency. Once the sex is gone all that's left are chores and the bills. The relationship fails.

Is sexual compatibility an important part of a relationship? Yes. Is the all-important part? No. A Dom who is looking for more than a scene, a sexual encounter, or some wild fun is going to want to have some idea about who you are and what you do - what you're like. Not what you're like when you're chained to the bed but what you're like when you're just relaxed and having fun. If you've got a degree in molecular biology and want someone you can discuss your research with, say so. If you're a huge hockey fan and like to go to games and cheer from the front row and then have wild sex in the bathrooms when your team wins, say so. If you want to get online and make a whole batch of BDSM avatars in Second Life and do things no real woman could ever do, say so. If you want to work in a pet store and raise turtles for the rest of your life, say so. It doesn't matter what it is as long as it's real and it's you. If someone loves hockey, or turtles or whatever, they know you're for them. If they're allergic to turtles, then they know you're not.

Your profile doesn't offer any of that. If you want my advice, you need to redo your profile and make it more about you and less a sort of generic one-liner dating site profile. In all honesty, I think a lot of people just skip those.

While I'm on a roll, you also say "we all know that there is way more men on this site". I think this is in some ways a fallacy.

Yes there are way more men on this site than there are women. I suspect, however, that if you could automagically screen for men and women "actually looking for a long-term relationship" and "willing to make the necessary effort and sacrifices to actually get together and attempt the relationship" you would find that there are more submissive women than there are Dominant men. I have no objective statistics to back this up, it's just a feeling I've gotten from reading the boards and being on the site for six months. I could be entirely wrong about this.

If I'm right about the ratios, however, then if you're really looking for a Dominant man, the "I'll wait around until one finds me" method isn't going to work very well and it's certainly doomed to failure if your profile doesn't even indicate that's what you're looking for. I'd suggest putting some meat into your profile, explain who you are and what you want out of a relationship, and then start searching around yourself - cruise through profiles that seem interesting, search on the criteria you think would be compatible and see what you find.

I make no claims about being a "real" or "true" Dom, whatever in the world that is. I am, despite my flaws, a reasonably okay guy who is Dominant. I don't have a problem finding women. I have a problem finding the right woman. I expect this to take time and effort. I expect to have some fun along the way and to make some mistakes along the way. That's life. As a Dominant man my problem on this or any site is to get myself noticed in a massive sea of screaming distractions. A submissive woman has the opposite problem, she's not weeding through a haystack looking for a needle, she's buried under a tidal wave of neon porn looking for the one real magazine in the pile. It's a signal to noise problem and there's an enormous amount of noise. You need to do things to make yourself stand out from the thousand other profiles with pictures of semi-clad women on them looking for a some sort of Dom/me.

I'm sorry that jerks have messaged you and you've had to screen them out. It's going to happen. If you want more than that, I think you need to put more effort into it.

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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 4:38:33 PM   
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quote:

ow,this does not sound like a true dom to me. How about you ?


true doms can also be true assholes,

who said all doms were saints?



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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 5:20:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: XXlittlegirlXX

So i've been on and off collarme for over a year. I'm a switch,but i'm trying to find that bond with someone,whether it be a true lover one,or a good friendship one with the understanding of where we stand. Dom or sub. This has been very hard,not what i thought it would be.
Of course we all know that there is way more men on this site,also a lot of females are pro dommes. What about us broke little girls?
Well beside all that, let me tell you this....

i have came across about 3-4 doms online from this site. One i was brought to him on yahoo by a ''slave'' of his,when to this date i believe it was just him. The others,we talk,we see what our interests are and get a feel for each other. I wouldn't mind relocated in florida,but out of florida is alittle much for me at this momment. That does not make me feel comfortable,unless however that Dom came to see me,and after a while,we realized it was meant to be. This,of course was not the right thing to say to these Doms.
I denied their offer to move to (un)god knows where,with a person i haven't met before? That sounds very comfortable.
How about the fact they won't send me a picture,or go on webcam? They call me shallow,and tell me that BDSM isn't about being shallow. Supposely BDSM isn't about what the ''slave'' whats.

I thought this was a team effort,a balance between the true right?

Well after talking,and realizing i said no,i think i'd rather stay in florida properly of course. BUT no,i get insulted,tell me i'll never be helped, i don't know what the ''real lifestyle'' is, i'm a wannabie,a player.

Now,this does not sound like a true dom to me. How about you ?


Your conclusions were correct and your actions were proper, do not concern yourself with these wantabees


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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 6:35:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Are you saying you would relocate for a guy whom you barely know?  Seriously?


No,i suppose lack of emotion on the internet tends to confuse people at times. I said i wouldn't do that.

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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 6:37:00 PM   
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sounds like wisewords,from a wise man. Thank you for your advice,and it did help.

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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 6:40:50 PM   
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i suppose some didn't understand what i meant really...it's about running into these doms online who don't make the situation comfortable,speically out of state for a young girl like i am. Yes, i would like to believe most people here are who they say they are,but you never know. Do i wanna turn up to be one of those girls who goes missing,and before someones true torture toy til death? I mean,fuck i love pain but i'm not thinking about that... My point was,those Doms... they didn't understand how i felt,they didn't wanna come see me to find out if we were a match,they wanted me to do all the work to get to them and wouldn't even show their face on cam.  now if that's not shady hun,i don't know what is.

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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 6:43:55 PM   
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Hissweetelysium,
thank you... Your advice,and words keep me going strong on my search!

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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 6:47:24 PM   
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Ebonywood,
I'm just... more pointing out the fact that some random lonely guy can be trying to get me to come out to where ever he is,without me knowing who he is, without even being able to see them and be ok with that? I find that horro movie in the making,or probably already been made. I am more also pointing out the lack that kindly telling them i'm not interested,i got insulted and almost guilt trip into being that i didn't know what the ''real lifestyle'' was,that i was a newbie. I am starting to wondering if anyone is actually reading what i wrote.

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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 6:49:40 PM   
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Lizi,
i'm bi,altho for the longest i have always picked men over females.. something has changed inside me. Also,i'm only talking about 3 or four guys i met here,talked to online to see where things would go.
I've met a lot of people here in the BDSM community here in florida! Of course i have fun! However it's been hard finding a Mistress,and i am sorta untrusting of men. So what is a little girl to do?

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RE: young girl,why does this happen? - 1/3/2010 6:52:15 PM   
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DesFIP,
my post was mostly talking about the 3-4 guys who tried to get me to come to them,without ever meeting them first,without being allowed to see them on cam,having to pay for it on my own,and the list goes on.. It was shady,i felt very uncomfortable under those ideas,so when i kindly said i was uninterested. I was insulted,told i was shallow,and made to feel like i didn't understand the true idea of the ''lifestyle''.

I have friends,playmates,had lovers,find new lovers easy. That's not at all what i was talking about.

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