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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 7:12:15 AM   
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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 7:12:58 AM   
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Oh and btw Countrysong, last summer I lived with my partner in a tepee (yes a tent!!). We had to budget every meal and keep warm at night with the wood we had collected from the fields and ya know what? that was richest and most rewarding experience I have ever had and a time when the love for my partner became deeper than anything I had ever known. Our nights out no longer consist of showing off my new and expensive outfit and dining on a five course meal in a fancy restaurant, it consists of sitting by the riverside with real friends and playing our guitars and singing along to some old favorite.
The day I walked away from money was the sweetest day of my life.


THIS! Honestly OP (and anyone who thinks money is the most important thing in a relationship), print this post out and read daily. Read it several times a day until it sinks in. Great post Maria, thank you on behalf of all of us for whom a rich lifestyle means nothing.

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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 7:14:55 AM   
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wait....im not getting the twenty???


No you aren't, I am...


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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 7:24:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		to the OP: Please, I WISH I fell for guys with money. I had many chances to be with wealthier than average men. But they lacked other critical qualities that I needed.

Most women that I know, including myself, are self sufficient and understand that money does not make the man (or woman). Money does not make you smart, funny, kind, compassionate, healthy, sane or classy. It just adds to your freedom to live life the way you want to and to enjoy the things you like.

When it comes to men, it is not the size of their bank book I care about, it is the size of their brain, heart and....well I won't go there right now. :)

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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 7:30:10 AM   
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the only reason i can see...


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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 7:57:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think you are asking the wrong question op. You need to ask yourself... not us... why women you are a gentleman with and who get your attention so much that you bring them gifts, do not want to marry YOU. A gentleman with gift's... typically meaning a man who has a generous heart, is sought after. It isn't the gift's so much as a condition of the heart that makes a woman feel special. Who rejects that? Unless the gifts do not come from a generous and gentleman's heart and come more from a place of manipulating them to feeling something you want them to feel with the gifts.

There are men who get laid and married with far less. So what is the message you are sending to more than a few women? Rather than blame the women for being greedy little gift sucker pussies... why not face the fact that it might be you that is doing something that could be correctable and refine yourself?

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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 8:07:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Money is so important because we are misguided greedy capitalists. Unless we evolve or have a revolution I don't see things changing. One thing is for certain, if I had focused on making $$$$$ when I was young, I could have had the submisssive woman of my dreams when I was 21. Live and learn.

Money changes everything as the song goes.  

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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 8:44:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is pretty far fetched to say that the only reason all of your relationships failed was because you don't have money. Unless of course you are searching for them on golddigger.com (I think that is a real site). The majority of women just aren't that interested in it. Sure, we want you to have an income, so you are self sufficient, and as a partner can contribute to the household, but that is different from financial wealth.

Also you are only 28 years old. You say you have tried for "years." Really? Did it ever occur to you that a lot of women nowadays aren't looking to jump into marriage in their early 20s? They want to finish their education and get started with their own career.

The time for self examination is now. No one wants someone who will always look to place the blame and responsibility for their problems somewhere else and never take responsibility themselves.

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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 9:23:29 AM   
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OP, let me rephrase your post.

I want to get married.  I have tried very hard. Here are the things I have done... I feel I have no flaws except that I'm not rich.  Why do women only care about money?

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Bluntly, I suggest that you acquire more maturity.  If you comport yourself as a Master should, you should have no problems.  Part of that is to have greater self-awareness than to say that you have no issues other than money.  Part of that is to give other things than material ones to your women, so that you don't get bitter about the money you've spent.  And part of that is communicating with them and seeing how they feel about the relationship - and taking the answer maturely and changing the relationship if necessary.



OP, this is, in my opinion, the wisest bit of advice you got today. Not to say that all the other bits weren't brilliant.

And I'd like to add that if you find that the women you are dating are scanning your wallet for a platinum credit card or inquiring on your financial assets, you are dating a gold-digger.

If you are dating a woman who wants to ensure that together you will have financial security before you get married, which traditionally, but not always, includes buying a house and raising kids, then I would say that you are dating a smart cookie!

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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 9:27:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some questions to ponder:

Are you working full time?
Can you afford to live on your own in an apartment or house in a safe part of town?
Can you afford to put at least 10% of your income towards savings each month?
Do you have your debt under control and a good credit score?
Do you like/love your job, at least most days?
Does your job require some level of skill/specialty knowledge/ongoing professional development?
Is there room for career growth within your industry?
Are you on the right career path for growth and promotion?
Do you have some level of job security?
Do you have a written plan for your future covering career goals and financial security?

If you can't answer yes to these, then there things you need to work on regarding your finances.   If you're considering a future with someone, financial security IS important, and each person in the relationship needs to hold up their end.   The "FDA factor" IS attractive - Focus, Drive, and Ambition.   It doesn't mean you have to be teh next Bill Gates, but it DOES mean you have to do the best you can with what you've got.

If you can answer yes to all of these, then sit back and really consider the type of woman that you're attracted to, and the type of woman you REALLY want to be in a relationship with.   Be the kind of man that will attract that kind of woman.

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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 9:59:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		allthatjaz I'm not at all sure what Countrysong is trying to say

Oh and btw Countrysong, last summer I lived with my partner in a tepee (yes a tent!!). We had to budget every meal and keep warm at night with the wood we had collected from the fields and ya know what? that was richest and most rewarding experience I have ever had and a time when the love for my partner became deeper than anything I had ever known. Our nights out no longer consist of showing off my new and expensive outfit and dining on a five course meal in a fancy restaurant, it consists of sitting by the riverside with real friends and playing our guitars and singing along to some old favorite.
The day I walked away from money was the sweetest day of my life.
Jaz - I was being sarcastic.
You really are the exception to the rule in the BDSM world if you were willing to live in a tent. I've run into the OP's issue. My dream is to have acreage and build a home on it. I have the money to do that but so far that seems to be a big issue to the women I've talked to. Not the living in the country part but having to stay in a yurt or travel trailer while we build the house together. Of course my other desire is that the person be young enough to have children which also narrows the potentual partners. I have found ladies that that would do the country thing but they were beyond child bearing years.
In the end money does play a big part. Even I consider it important because it really is required to take care of ones family. 
Right now I'm speaking with a Domme about forming a partnership to buy the land and build seperate homes.


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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 10:04:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am 50 years old and most straight men I know have run into "issues" with women who are obsessed with money. I can understand this if this was the 1950s or some backward traditional country, but in the USA where an increasing number of women are advancing into professional ranks, this Disney-like fanatsy of a rich prince sweeping you off your feet so you can just kick back and enjoy his $$$$$$ must end.

Maybe not. It gives us poor old guys something to laugh and complain about!  

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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 10:10:01 AM   
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security.......security.......security

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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 10:13:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: roland23

I am 50 years old and most straight men I know have run into "issues" with women who are obsessed with money. I can understand this if this was the 1950s or some backward traditional country, but in the USA where an increasing number of women are advancing into professional ranks, this Disney-like fanatsy of a rich prince sweeping you off your feet so you can just kick back and enjoy his $$$$$$ must end.

Maybe not. It gives us poor old guys something to laugh and complain about!  


Maybe if they stop looking for love on millionaire.com?


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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 10:17:18 AM   
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I have tried for years to get married. I tried getting to know women giving them gifts talking to them wanting to love them being a gentleman. frankly the only reason i can see not giving me the time of day is because i'm not wealthy why do these women only care about wealth.

Getting married is easy. (Lie about the money).
Staying married is the difficult part.


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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 10:23:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		My mother got very upset about the men I was involved with. My first husband she loved... I mean loved! A railroad man... good money. Two thousand a week back in the 70's... not bad at all! I picked him because he was eccentric, funny and the sex was the best!

After him, I didn't go with men with money because I knew a lot of men with money and I didn't like them or how they lived and what was important to them. Mom said; Lockit, you can fall in love with a rich one just as easily as you can a poor one! She got one of my facial expressions she decided not to test any further.

I knew lots of millionaires coming from where I came from. They never got passed the first date with me. I will take a blue collar worker over a millionaire any day! In fact, I will take a poor man over a millionaire!

We all don't want the money!

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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 10:32:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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ORIGINAL: roland23

I am 50 years old and most straight men I know have run into "issues" with women who are obsessed with money. I can understand this if this was the 1950s or some backward traditional country, but in the USA where an increasing number of women are advancing into professional ranks, this Disney-like fanatsy of a rich prince sweeping you off your feet so you can just kick back and enjoy his $$$$$$ must end.

Maybe not. It gives us poor old guys something to laugh and complain about!  


Maybe if they stop looking for love on millionaire.com?


Or sugardaddy.com! Gosh that one makes me laugh. Poor saps! The moment the viagra prescription and the money runs out, the little hunny is gone!

- LA

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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 10:36:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

quote:

ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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ORIGINAL: roland23

I am 50 years old and most straight men I know have run into "issues" with women who are obsessed with money. I can understand this if this was the 1950s or some backward traditional country, but in the USA where an increasing number of women are advancing into professional ranks, this Disney-like fanatsy of a rich prince sweeping you off your feet so you can just kick back and enjoy his $$$$$$ must end.

Maybe not. It gives us poor old guys something to laugh and complain about!  


Maybe if they stop looking for love on millionaire.com?


Or sugardaddy.com! Gosh that one makes me laugh. Poor saps! The moment the viagra prescription and the money runs out, the little hunny is gone!

- LA


Well, like they say, you get what you pay for.


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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 10:42:45 AM   
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so there GIVE ME THE $20 INSTEAD

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RE: why is money so important - 1/4/2010 10:45:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		i have yet to see this mythical twenty....(and i will do just about anything to get it)......

*patiently waits for her twenty*

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