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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 6:22:35 PM   
wisdomtogive


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i think this conversation just went in a circle, osf...

i don't have an insatiable sexual appetite.  i don't define myself, or my slavery, by my sexuality, or my appetites, nor am i controlled by them.  As Jeffff so eloquently pointed out - outside of my self-control, only one thing controls me, and that is my Owner. 

*edited to clarify.




I just love the way you express yourself. Thank you. And yes, 'outside of my self-control, only one thing controlsme, and that is my Owner sizes it up..Thank you Jeff tool

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You could not answer any of my questions, which is fine. As far as I am concern there really aren't any answers forth coming, and I do accept that.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 6:24:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wisdomtogive

quote:

ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven

i think this conversation just went in a circle, osf...

i don't have an insatiable sexual appetite.  i don't define myself, or my slavery, by my sexuality, or my appetites, nor am i controlled by them.  As Jeffff so eloquently pointed out - outside of my self-control, only one thing controls me, and that is my Owner. 

*edited to clarify.




I just love the way you express yourself. Thank you. And yes, 'outside of my self-control, only one thing controlsme, and that is my Owner sizes it up..Thank you Jeff tool

OSF
You could not answer any of my questions, which is fine. As far as I am concern there really aren't any answers forth coming, and I do accept that.


honestly i'm still trying to understand your question,you didn't explain it to me when i asked you

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 6:26:12 PM   
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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 6:26:20 PM   
osf


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i'm not speaking for anybody here, i'm speaking from my past experience with women

mileage may vary

i've said this a number of times

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 7:27:29 PM   
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I am hard to handle.  Yes I am.  I am intelligent and spirited and passionate and gloriously creative.  So are many of the women on here.  You know who thinks I'm hard to handle?  People who aren't as smart as I am.

That is all.



Not trying to side track the discussion: I'm just surprised to see you say this.

That seemed an odd statement and a little untrue  Wouldn't that be more about compatibility issues instead of intelligence? *Shrugs

Off to bed..I'll check it later


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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 7:53:00 PM   
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I say it because I find it to be true for me.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 7:59:11 PM   
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I am hard to handle. Yes I am. I am intelligent and spirited and passionate and gloriously creative. So are many of the women on here. You know who thinks I'm hard to handle? People who aren't as smart as I am.

That is all.


Okay let me get this straight...You say you are hard to handle in your own words and then go on to put down someone else who points that out to you when you already agree to it..Those people are then seen as dumber than you? Wouldn't that include you as well since you were the one to pint it out on the thread? Did nobody else see any of that while they were patting her on the back lol

Not only do I see a whole lot of absurdities with that whole statement..The essence of it is a load as well. Just when I thought it was safe to go outside.

Change your name to partlycloudymiss or sunnywithachanceofrain maybe?


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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:00:57 PM   
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You have a point..  I should have said "People who find me TOO hard to handle..." 

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:02:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Icarys

quote:

I am hard to handle. Yes I am. I am intelligent and spirited and passionate and gloriously creative. So are many of the women on here. You know who thinks I'm hard to handle? People who aren't as smart as I am.

That is all.


Okay let me get this straight...You say you are hard to handle in your own words and then go on to put down someone else who points that out to you when you already agree to it..Those people are then seen as dumber than you? Wouldn't that include you as well since you were the one to pint it out on the thread? Did nobody else see any of that while they were patting her on the back lol

Not only do I see a whole lot of absurdities with that whole statement..The essence of it is a load as well. Just when I thought it was safe to go outside.

Change your name to partlycloudymiss or sunnywithachanceofrain maybe?



those waders you bought for alaska, well it may be a good time to put them on

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:02:54 PM   
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ya got me there. Nice one. I make typos but my logic is sound.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:04:43 PM   
Icarys


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those waders you bought for alaska, well it may be a good time to put them on

You aint kiddin..Holy shit some of these people are a trip. That statement she put out sounded just like the same attitude that Psycho guy put out.

< Message edited by Icarys -- 1/4/2010 8:07:06 PM >


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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:07:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Icarys

quote:

those waders you bought for alaska, well it may be a good time to put them on

You aint kiddin..Holy shit some of these people are a trip. That statement sounded just like the same attitude that Psycho guy put out.


but in his irrationality there's a lot of rationality

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:08:10 PM   
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but in his irrationality there's a lot of rationality

Sure some of his stuff made sense.


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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:09:42 PM   
osf


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ya know, my detractors think i'm answering to them

fuck, they have very little to do with my answers

the answers i give are for a person that has yet to ask questions

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:10:18 PM   
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I can bratty at times sometimes worse than others. It gets really bad when I'm pushing boundaries to see if they are still there. It may sound childish but it's something I need. I have to know that the rules and boundries are there and that they arne't going to change. I don't however act bratty just to get beaten because all I have to do is ask! I do however know when it is appropriate and when it is not. I know in private I can push boundries however in public I know much better than to disrespect my Master and Mistress by misbehaving.
There is also a difference between play/ discipline and actual punishment. For example my Master and Mistress are older than I am so I sometimes have fun calling them old. As a consequnce I get two whacks with something for each time I call them that. However I have a wooden paddle that I absolutely hate this is used only in punishment for example playing with myself without permission.


Precisely. Some slaves need to know that Master is always, firmly, in charge and so have to test the boundaries every so often. This should not be confused with masochism. Like LaTigresse, I believe that punishment should be unpleasant – something that they do not want repeated. But we should not confuse happiness with fulfillment. During the actual punishment the slave may be quite unhappy but at that moment they are also fulfilled because each lash (or what ever the punishment entails) resolutely proclaims the knowledge that they so desperately need reaffirmed: that Master is absolutely in charge and will not tolerate challenges to his authority; that Master will have an obedient slave.

It is all a matter of personality types. Yes, some slaves will occasionally push the boundaries in order to seek affirmation of Master’s dominance (in some cases, in spite of themselves) whiles others will always strive to perfection because they don’t have that need for affirmation. Stills others are true masochists/pain slaves and deliberately seek punishment for that reason – an actual case of topping from the bottom (or, at least the attempt to do so) – I actually find that type annoying.


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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:10:42 PM   
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but in his irrationality there's a lot of rationality

Sure some of his stuff made sense.


about some of the people here a lot of sense

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:11:00 PM   
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As a self-proclaimed brat, I'd have to say that some D-types DO enjoy bratty behavior. My sir and I have the sort of relationship where, when he needs me to be a good girl, I am. I want to appear well to others, and I want him to be proud of me. In a private setting, however, it's another matter entirely. While there are times he wants me to be good for him, a majority of our shared amusement and love comes from me being mischevious and taunting him until he physically subdues me. I make snarky comments, untie myself when his back is turned, intentionally do things wrong, etc just to see his eyes light up and the chase begins.
For many, that dynamic wouldn't work. I consider myself loosely submissive, but I identify more as a brat or a pet anyway. But it works for us, and that's all that matters.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:11:45 PM   
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oh no, not more pablum

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:13:16 PM   
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it's not only a question if they enjoy bratty behavior but how long they can enjoy it

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:14:57 PM   
Icarys


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it's not only a question if they enjoy bratty behavior but how long they can enjoy it

Some relationships work okay with it osf. It's just different tastes.


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