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ORIGINAL: nephandi

Greetings

I see correction as a mild form of punishment. It is more that as adults that want to be in this lifestyle, it is seldom necessary to beat the sub senseless, just saying I want it done this way, or you did this wrong do this instead usually is enough. Now I am Aswad's free companion and we are not that active in the dynamic as we are trying to redefine ourself, but while I was his slave and his sub I do not think there was one single time he had to punish me, though there was plenty of corrections to get things the way he wanted them.

I wish you well

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Some subs like that. Some subs like to have standards that are literally impossible so they can be punished for not meeting them. For some ppl, this is what makes them feel like they are truly being controlled/dominated/required to submit--the punishment that comes when they mess up.

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OSF--some dominants like to "conquer" their subs.  They LIKE the resistance to their authority, so they get to exercise it more. You seem a bit dismissive of that, but that is what some ppl enjoy.

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in the circles i am in they are separate things like i said

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ORIGINAL: nephandi

Greetings

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in the circles i am in they are separate things like i said

Ok

Be Well

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ORIGINAL: osf

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

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ORIGINAL: osf

ok, i'm throwing some more red meat to the subbies

Ok, osf, I am feeling magnanimous today, so I will bite.

Submissive adaptation.
I have found that some submissives have this ability to adjust their intelligence to a certain degree to whatever man they may be interested in at the time. If he is not quite as smart as she is she can dumb down a bit to enable the fantasy that she has a wise and knowing dom.

Some perhaps, but I would never, have never, could never, dumb it down. Why would I or anyone else obscure their true self? That would be called denying reality which always comes back to haunt you since you could not maintain such a delusion. Why would someone need to fantasize about a wise and knowing Dom and settle for less than that, instead of waiting to find a real one?

I’m not disparaging this, it is after all part of the package that makes them a submissive.

Considering that every submissive comes in a different package, there is no part of a package to consider, unless you speak of a particular sub that you know does this. P.S. all your questions regarding subs seem disparaging, intent or not.

She wants this so energetically that when going to him for advice or explanation that if he can come anywhere near the proper response, she immediately will think it’s gods honest truth and adapt it on the spot.

Wants what so energetically? To be a sub? To be with that specific Dom? If she is in fact, dumbing herself down, then wouldn't she know that HIS advice or explanation is not what she is seeking? And what is the proper response? The one she wants and is trying to extract from less intelligent Dom?

When she has questions regarding her own motivations (but you just said her motivation was to consciously dumb herself down, so she already knows her motivation) and if he is observant enough and can come up with a plausible explanation, (based on a lie she perpetuated by acting dumber than she is) she will enfold it into herself and it becomes the truth. (the truth based on a lie you mean) So in effect he is explaining and molding all at once.(no, he just thinks he is, but she has manipulated it to be so by being less than her true self)

One may wonder if it’s wise for me to put this out there, won’t it hinder me in my search? (no, your search is hindered by much more than this topic.) Not at all remember I said this is instinctive, (no, it is not, it would be a conscious decision)  they can’t act any other way and besides some of the dears (condescending, much?) may think this is oh so wise of me. (no chance of that happening).

Remember the hand is smarter than the ass.(I tend to think with my brain, not body parts).

Well that has been my observation from my past, milage may vary.

which could be a topic for a new thread (no need)

Are we having fun yet?

red i don't mean to a 70 iq but some do seem to elevate his intelligence in their minds

red just because you don't like me, which i'll assume is the case, doesn't mean you have to get silly with everything i say

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i like it when my partner punishes me for something. not because i enjoy the punishments, because i don't. they are painful and/or unpleasant. but i like it because it reminds me that she WILL punish me, and that she will help me modify my behavior. *shrugs* i like that feeling, and she enjoys providing it for me.  we create rules that do not *anger* or upset her when they are broken, but that she will whip me for breaking, to encourage me to do better at work, or keep my areas neater. sometimes, if i'm feeling a little needy, or like i want reassurance, i'll break one of these rules to sort of verify for myself that she will still enforce them that she cares enough to still enforce them.  she's more than okay with that.

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Like I said, I like it because it reminds me that she WILL punish me. It reassures me if I'm feeling a little off.

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ORIGINAL: osf

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Like I said, I like it because it reminds me that she WILL punish me. It reassures me if I'm feeling a little off.

try this , next time don't be bad just ask her to beat you or what ever you two do, if she is anything like me, she enjoys doing what ever to those she cares about

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ORIGINAL: itsmeinLV

Where do you encounter all these mishaps??? 

Sometimes people (not just women or men) act that way for self-preservation.  It's a protection mechanism because they're afraid that they will be rejected for being who they are so instead they will act in a way that will make people automatically reject them so they at least know it's self inflicted.  

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i think for some, the reason for "creating" reasons to be punished is that it is the feeling of being punished that is enjoyed.  Not *just* being whipped on someone's whim (though that is enjoyable as well), but the feeling of doing wrong and having to be punished for it--for you, that's a very negative and even damaging feeling (if I understand you correctly), but for some, like me in some ways, it's a satisfying feeling.

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i was just saying thats what it means to me, i wasn't dismissing you