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why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... - 1/4/2010 7:54:36 AM

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why do some women feel that being a brat/feisty/hand full makes them more desirable

sounds more like a TPS than TPE to me

as for me if you tell me you're submissive, that's more or less how i want you to show up

how many women want a bratty guy? don't they believe in equality?

this doesn't mean i'm weak or lazy, it means i have better things to do

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:00:22 AM

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I think that SOME equate it to being superiour. When to me it just screams insecurity.

"I am no doormat!" "I have a mind and know how to use it!" "I won't submit to just anyone!" way of thinking.

To me, it's all just chatter that I ignore. I've no time for either a brat or a peacock strutting their 'superiour' feathers. A fantastic s-type will be noticed without their own self advertising. Then again, most that advertise, are not that great.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:03:03 AM

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doormat = anyone more submissive than i am

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle - 1/4/2010 8:05:08 AM

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bratty guy?

There are MANY bratty guys out there, as a Woman and as the Owner of a male I know. Brats come in all genders and orientations, that is a fact. It depends on how much brattiness a Dominant finds desirable (If any at all). I like a little brattiness but not so much that I want to kick him to the curb.

People are people and most of them are not going to change just because you have a certain view of how they should be. Sure some will pretend to change, some might even attempt to change IF they think you are worth it as a Dominant. If you don't want a brat, then keep on moving with your search.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:05:33 AM

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why do some women feel that being a brat/feisty/hand full makes them more desirable

because there are some men and women who do indeed find it desirable.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:08:35 AM

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why do some women feel that being a brat/feisty/hand full makes them more desirable

because there are some men and women who do indeed find it desirable.

that would depend on your definition of brattyness i guess

my idea is any hesitation in doing what i want lololol

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:14:00 AM

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well, there are those who WANT hesitation, struggle, challenge, etc. to occur before submitting. there have been quite a few on here who state they want to subjugate an otherwise dominant individual...not to be blindly obeyed by a submissive one.

thankfully, we all aren't cut from the same cloth.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:16:11 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

well, there are those who WANT hesitation, struggle, challenge, etc. to occur before submitting. there have been quite a few on here who state they want to subjugate an otherwise dominant individual...not to be blindly obeyed by a submissive one.

thankfully, we all aren't cut from the same cloth.

intellectually i know that, i just don't feel it

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:18:18 AM

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Well, I kind of like it when a girl is just a LITTLE bratty or disobediant. Something small, simple, and easily rectified - like "forgetting" to put the salt on the table. I like to punish MOST for disobediance like that. It's best to have an unspoken understanding - so I get to punish and she gets to GET punished - it's another form of communication.

Other than the above, NO, it's otherwise very annoying.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:19:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: osf

why do some women feel that being a brat/feisty/hand full makes them more desirable

I can only guess, but it does seem that those are desirable qualities, in the eyes of some; especially when the ‘skill’ is being used toward someone/thing that the beholder finds offensive.

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how many women want a bratty guy? don't they believe in equality?

I strive for balance, and believe that ‘equality’ should be left to describing comparisons of things, such as mass and weight. (hope I worded that rightly)

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:20:38 AM

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In some cases the bratty slave is looking to be "conquered." They want to push the boundaries to see if Master/Mistress will be a "true" dominant and force their slave to be obediant.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:23:41 AM

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I don't think I'm Bratty per say, I can be a snot sometimes. But, I've talked with Sir about it and He likes it. It's a challenge and He would bore quickly with someone who bent to His every single whim, desire and want.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:36:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: thedavezone

Well, I kind of like it when a girl is just a LITTLE bratty or disobediant. Something small, simple, and easily rectified - like "forgetting" to put the salt on the table. I like to punish MOST for disobediance like that. It's best to have an unspoken understanding - so I get to punish and she gets to GET punished - it's another form of communication.

Other than the above, NO, it's otherwise very annoying.

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Well, I kind of like it when a girl is just a LITTLE bratty or disobediant. Something small, simple, and easily rectified - like "forgetting" to put the salt on the table. I like to punish MOST for disobediance like that. It's best to have an unspoken understanding - so I get to punish and she gets to GET punished - it's another form of communication.

forgetting something isn't disobedience to me, more like a lapse of attention

if i want to hit the bitch i don't need any other reason than i want to

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:38:11 AM

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I agree with many of the replies. The bratty behavior is a dynamic that many Dominants and submissives enjoy. Personally it is not apart of our relationship or something we enjoy. I enjoy doing what He wants and pleasing Him. Occasionally I will forget something but we don't have any punishment system in place for any mistakes that are made. I find that that I am harder on myself for the error then He ever would be.

kim

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:38:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

In some cases the bratty slave is looking to be "conquered." They want to push the boundaries to see if Master/Mistress will be a "true" dominant and force their slave to be obediant.

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In some cases the bratty slave is looking to be "conquered." They want to push the boundaries to see if Master/Mistress will be a "true" dominant and force their slave to be obediant.

i'm not so much into forcing obedience as helping and encourageing

you can't force someone to want to be obedient

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:40:12 AM

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I don't think I'm Bratty per say, I can be a snot sometimes. But, I've talked with Sir about it and He likes it. It's a challenge and He would bore quickly with someone who bent to His every single whim, desire and want.

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I don't think I'm Bratty per say, I can be a snot sometimes. But, I've talked with Sir about it and He likes it. It's a challenge and He would bore quickly with someone who bent to His every single whim, desire and want.

i'm not complaining about others concepts

just trying to get others reasons

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:42:02 AM

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I don't think I'm Bratty per say, I can be a snot sometimes. But, I've talked with Sir about it and He likes it. It's a challenge and He would bore quickly with someone who bent to His every single whim, desire and want.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:42:50 AM

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'm not complaining about others concepts

just trying to get others reasons

I didn't think you were :)

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:43:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: yellowroses

I agree with many of the replies. The bratty behavior is a dynamic that many Dominants and submissives enjoy. Personally it is not apart of our relationship or something we enjoy. I enjoy doing what He wants and pleasing Him. Occasionally I will forget something but we don't have any punishment system in place for any mistakes that are made. I find that that I am harder on myself for the error then He ever would be.

kim

to me there's a great difference between punishment and correction

i personally find having to punish a distasteful thing to have to do, but i do if necessary

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:44:08 AM

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Tis true, tis true. There is great fun to be had in reminding the slave of her place. I love that moment, usually after about a dozen lashes, when she promises eternal obedience.

"Eternal" usually means a week to ten days.

LOL

That sounds like me

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