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lovingpet -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 6:07:02 AM)

I don't care for broken sparrows (except the real ones because they are cute, pitiful, and have feathers) or tarnished white knights (except if I'm the one who helped tarnish the armor LOL). I also can't help but poke at their wing or smudge my finger through the muck, however. It's a sick fascination of mine. I need help! [&:]





pahunkboy -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 6:11:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Pet-  I view OSF as dangerous.

Maybe I do not understand the lifestyle-  and that could be.  But based on the posts that I read- and his profile- this guy creeps me out.

I know it is a free country- and all- and this is a kink site- so possibly I am off.  But particularly if I was a woman- this guy comes off as dangerous.

His manner seems to suggest permanent harm.



It might be easier to hire out for the sex he wants.

The dude needs a different approach if he wants to score real time.



Whether I agree with you or not, he does have the right to post here. He also has the automatic responsibility to own the consequences for what he posts. By the tos, I can't pass judgement on him or any other poster, but the moderators and administrators can do as they please based on what he writes. What we can all do is report a poster if we believe something along the lines of what you posted above. That is a personal decision and one I have made of my own accord and each will do the same. All I did was answer his OP in an ontopic fashion. I doubt it will be well received, but my posts aren't always for the benefit of the person whose thread I am posting on, but for others who may stumble upon it and find what I had to say useful. I could care less what anyone does with what I say. I just do my best to guide in a way that I feel good about and believe is both helpful and not harmful to others who view it. The rest is upon the reader.

lovingpet


As always a classy lady.  One I am honored to know.   Big HUGS to you.

:-)




lovingpet -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 6:13:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovingpet

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Pet-  I view OSF as dangerous.

Maybe I do not understand the lifestyle-  and that could be.  But based on the posts that I read- and his profile- this guy creeps me out.

I know it is a free country- and all- and this is a kink site- so possibly I am off.  But particularly if I was a woman- this guy comes off as dangerous.

His manner seems to suggest permanent harm.



It might be easier to hire out for the sex he wants.

The dude needs a different approach if he wants to score real time.



Whether I agree with you or not, he does have the right to post here. He also has the automatic responsibility to own the consequences for what he posts. By the tos, I can't pass judgement on him or any other poster, but the moderators and administrators can do as they please based on what he writes. What we can all do is report a poster if we believe something along the lines of what you posted above. That is a personal decision and one I have made of my own accord and each will do the same. All I did was answer his OP in an ontopic fashion. I doubt it will be well received, but my posts aren't always for the benefit of the person whose thread I am posting on, but for others who may stumble upon it and find what I had to say useful. I could care less what anyone does with what I say. I just do my best to guide in a way that I feel good about and believe is both helpful and not harmful to others who view it. The rest is upon the reader.

lovingpet


As always a classy lady.  One I am honored to know.   Big HUGS to you.

:-)



Awwwwwww!!!!!! *blush*

Biggest huggggs you!




sexyred1 -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 6:14:24 AM)

Oy, I wake up and see this....shakes head.

osf: I am actually concerned about you. You appear unable to comprehend the results of your own actions. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many people have written to you both on and off the boards. Your responses suggest a narcissistic personality and no one here is qualified to help with that.

There is no harassment; everyone here got or gets snarked at at some point. Hell, when I started, I got into some doozies of flames; got modded, went away for a while and now that I am back, I am trying to post more maturely. Not that I will be successfull all the time, but I am trying. I know a recent thread I participated in degenerated into flames, but that guy....well, another story.

I have suggested to you that your many postings are being designed to get women to view your profile, read your journal and become interested in the Man Behind Osf. That would be cool, if in fact, this tactic was working.

As others have said before me, the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. It is also clear that the one being defensive against so many, is usually the one who has to analyze their own posting behavior.

It is cool to be smart, funny, provocative, like to debate, even derail threads, but osf, your postings are not being taken in the way you intend them, unless that is what you want.

You cannot complain about others harassing you if your posts seem to be harassing women. People will not tolerate that and they will not be silent. If the same people keep posting on your threads, how is that different than you starting numerous threads? You seem to want opinions from "others", which I think means people who don't frequent the forums. Not going to happen unless someone drifts over here.

When I have posted to you, you said I did not like you because I disagreed with you. How silly. It is not a matter of like/dislike, I don't know you, don't particularly want to know you, but I stated both publically and privately that replying to a post of yours in disagreement has nothing to do with "like". It has to do with freedom of speech.

You have freedom of speech as well, but do not complain about vultures circling you when you are providing such a tasty carcass.




pahunkboy -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 6:17:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: persephonee

Honestly, i dont think hes dangerous...in the sense of permanent harm.

i do think hes stunted in a lot of ways.

Broken Sparrow really only works if the submissive does it....i dont know very many emotionally healthy White Knight submissives. Frankly, i dont think the broken sparrow subs are that healthy either but we all have our little hurdles.....

He said in other posts that he has rejected the community due to flaws within it...yet he posts here on a community board.

i love the ones that do that....they get all the girls.



Re-write this post- but on the premise that he is in your home- has handcuffed you- co-erced power of attorney, has the key to your safe and valuables- and knows your account numbers.

Handcuffed, blind folded, immobilized.

....if anyone gets that far--- I dread the outcome.

The kicker is there is plenty of opportunity to grow and learn right here on this board.  One only needs to try for it.





pahunkboy -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 6:26:23 AM)

Red-  if I detect- someone is getting dissed, ripped, insulted- especially if it is a poster who has been around- Often I will try to do something about it.

Recent posts have been highly insulting to woman- and that infuriates me.

I also was not alone in the contempt for one who showed contempt.

Be that as it may- people tend to treat others as they wish to be treated.  

If he is surprised we jumped on him- then he seriously needs professional help.  He is not the first the only or last male to be frustrated with the dating world.

That is life.

But in the meantime, the regulars here- and pretty much everyone sees that there is benefits to banter.

All he has to do is show some maturity in a thread and others will return it.   Tho at some point- if the insults continue no one will..... as people DO have a breaking point.






sexyred1 -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 6:34:28 AM)

pahunkboy, I agree with you. In fact, that is how I got in trouble on that Misogyny thread because some moron was attacking a friend of mine and women in general.

I have spoken to osf privately and he sadly, does not get it. He will only continue, and like the previously mentioned poster, just continue to dig a deeper hole. I mean, seriously, the dude on the other thread just insulted special needs children and their parents all in the name of a "joke". Some joke.

Can you believe it? It is sad really, but overall, there are great people here to interact with.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 6:40:15 AM)

Hunky, this may well be the best post you have ever made and I agree with you 100%. Sadly some people never learn and prefer to see themselves as picked on victims.

love ya!




persephonee -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 6:52:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: persephonee

Honestly, i dont think hes dangerous...in the sense of permanent harm.

i do think hes stunted in a lot of ways.

Broken Sparrow really only works if the submissive does it....i dont know very many emotionally healthy White Knight submissives. Frankly, i dont think the broken sparrow subs are that healthy either but we all have our little hurdles.....

He said in other posts that he has rejected the community due to flaws within it...yet he posts here on a community board.

i love the ones that do that....they get all the girls.



Re-write this post- but on the premise that he is in your home- has handcuffed you- co-erced power of attorney, has the key to your safe and valuables- and knows your account numbers.

Handcuffed, blind folded, immobilized.

....if anyone gets that far--- I dread the outcome.

The kicker is there is plenty of opportunity to grow and learn right here on this board.  One only needs to try for it.




i can only speak for myself and say that im unable to re write that post, cuz it simply wouldnt ever ever ever come to pass that way.

i do see your point, and its a valid one....i am finding it difficult to imagine that anyone would put themselves in a vulnerable postion around someone who talks like that....i dont know him at all in real life...and i venture to guess that if we were to meet up somewhere publicly, he would strike me as stunted in person as well.

i dont spend a whole lot of time on people who are that old chronologically but still act like that asshat i dated for 10 minutes in the 8th grade.

So, the likelihood that i would end up playing with him privately or even around him at a party is pretty low.

Yes, there is opportunity to grow and learn here, as well as anywhere else....its up to him to take that on himself. Personally, i doubt he will, and thats sad for him.

As to anyone else creating a relationship with him....who knows how that would turn out in reality....as long as they are not people i interact with, it wont really ever become my problem.

The community seems to be able to self police on its own....ive seen men who talk like he does end up being frozen out of whatever club, simply because everyone found him to be not a viable candidate for friendship or relationship. im fairly certain that this is what may have happened to him in his local community and now hes bitter and typing away at home....c'est la vie.






LaTigresse -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 6:56:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: osf

has any one been harrased by other members of cm in threads they have started or contributed too

tos, As with the rest of the Forum, it is asked that participants refrain from insults, flames, and generally offensive behavior.


No. I have never felt harassed at all. If indeed I did feel that way, I would know that I had more than likely done something to bring it on and rectify my own behaviour. OR..........I would do what any sane, intelligent person would do and turn the fuckin computer OFF.




GYPSYMAMBO -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 7:00:10 AM)

OP:
I was followed around a couple times with the persons commenting AFTER my posts and not to the OP or thread..but in general asking me if I thought I was some zen buddha teacher type..or somes shit hot intellect/
 
I ignored becuz I assumed I had rubbed them the wrong way and they simply made assumptions..and had an opinion.,.
I however did not mistake their opinion for fact.
Where I do pay ATTENTION is if I hear the same thing from several ppl..such as if I was rude etc.

 
GM




pahunkboy -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 7:53:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

pahunkboy, I agree with you. In fact, that is how I got in trouble on that Misogyny thread because some moron was attacking a friend of mine and women in general.

I have spoken to osf privately and he sadly, does not get it. He will only continue, and like the previously mentioned poster, just continue to dig a deeper hole. I mean, seriously, the dude on the other thread just insulted special needs children and their parents all in the name of a "joke". Some joke.

Can you believe it? It is sad really, but overall, there are great people here to interact with.



We have alot of nice people here.  The good outweighs the bad.

I can see someone having a bad day and posting a bad - - post where it comes out to reflect that...  then there is a pattern of purposefully being a brute.

Many here have showed restraint.

anyhow- more to live then spending endless energy fighting the ....

I very much believe in the many good people here.  Some of the more interesting advice per my life happened here- both giving and receiving.

Great to see you!   :-)




LadyPact -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 8:11:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: persephonee

The community seems to be able to self police on its own....ive seen men who talk like he does end up being frozen out of whatever club, simply because everyone found him to be not a viable candidate for friendship or relationship. im fairly certain that this is what may have happened to him in his local community and now hes bitter and typing away at home....c'est la vie.





I was thinking this very same thing.  I wonder how many s types ever look at this particular trait, the evidence of not being active in the local community, and see it as a potential reason to have additional thoughts regarding safety.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 8:15:09 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

Oy, I wake up and see this....shakes head.

osf: I am actually concerned about you. You appear unable to comprehend the results of your own actions. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many people have written to you both on and off the boards. Your responses suggest a narcissistic personality and no one here is qualified to help with that.

There is no harassment; everyone here got or gets snarked at at some point. Hell, when I started, I got into some doozies of flames; got modded, went away for a while and now that I am back, I am trying to post more maturely. Not that I will be successfull all the time, but I am trying. I know a recent thread I participated in degenerated into flames, but that guy....well, another story.

I have suggested to you that your many postings are being designed to get women to view your profile, read your journal and become interested in the Man Behind Osf. That would be cool, if in fact, this tactic was working.

As others have said before me, the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. It is also clear that the one being defensive against so many, is usually the one who has to analyze their own posting behavior.

It is cool to be smart, funny, provocative, like to debate, even derail threads, but osf, your postings are not being taken in the way you intend them, unless that is what you want.

You cannot complain about others harassing you if your posts seem to be harassing women. People will not tolerate that and they will not be silent. If the same people keep posting on your threads, how is that different than you starting numerous threads? You seem to want opinions from "others", which I think means people who don't frequent the forums. Not going to happen unless someone drifts over here.

When I have posted to you, you said I did not like you because I disagreed with you. How silly. It is not a matter of like/dislike, I don't know you, don't particularly want to know you, but I stated both publically and privately that replying to a post of yours in disagreement has nothing to do with "like". It has to do with freedom of speech.

You have freedom of speech as well, but do not complain about vultures circling you when you are providing such a tasty carcass.


Actually if the emotion OSF was trying to get from us is pity, it worked. We just plain feel sorry for you. Your life appears to be pathetic and you appear to really need this attention, even if its negative. The example of this attention seeking behavior is the fact that you have been here maybe a week to 10 days and yet your post count has earned you 3 paddles. When one thread dies out of disinterest, you start another. But soon, with continued behavior as displayed, people will eventually ignore you and you will go the way of the other Trolls or perhaps get a new profile with new name and start again. Really, therapy is what is needed as we are not equipped to help you with your psychosis.




Jeffff -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 8:17:33 AM)

LP... I don't care for the local community. I have been to a few events. I stopped going. That doesn't make me dangerous.

So I suppose it works both ways. If someone insists on involvement in the community, it would disqualify her as well as me.

On the other hand..... I may be a dick, but I am a non threatening dick..:)


Jeff




mnottertail -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 8:19:55 AM)

Are you threatening me?


Cornholio




osf -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 8:20:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

Oy, I wake up and see this....shakes head.

osf: I am actually concerned about you. You appear unable to comprehend the results of your own actions. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many people have written to you both on and off the boards. Your responses suggest a narcissistic personality and no one here is qualified to help with that.

There is no harassment; everyone here got or gets snarked at at some point. Hell, when I started, I got into some doozies of flames; got modded, went away for a while and now that I am back, I am trying to post more maturely. Not that I will be successfull all the time, but I am trying. I know a recent thread I participated in degenerated into flames, but that guy....well, another story.

I have suggested to you that your many postings are being designed to get women to view your profile, read your journal and become interested in the Man Behind Osf. That would be cool, if in fact, this tactic was working.

As others have said before me, the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. It is also clear that the one being defensive against so many, is usually the one who has to analyze their own posting behavior.

It is cool to be smart, funny, provocative, like to debate, even derail threads, but osf, your postings are not being taken in the way you intend them, unless that is what you want.

You cannot complain about others harassing you if your posts seem to be harassing women. People will not tolerate that and they will not be silent. If the same people keep posting on your threads, how is that different than you starting numerous threads? You seem to want opinions from "others", which I think means people who don't frequent the forums. Not going to happen unless someone drifts over here.

When I have posted to you, you said I did not like you because I disagreed with you. How silly. It is not a matter of like/dislike, I don't know you, don't particularly want to know you, but I stated both publically and privately that replying to a post of yours in disagreement has nothing to do with "like". It has to do with freedom of speech.

You have freedom of speech as well, but do not complain about vultures circling you when you are providing such a tasty carcass.
quote:

Oy, I wake up and see this....shakes head.

osf: I am actually concerned about you. You appear unable to comprehend the results of your own actions. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many people have written to you both on and off the boards. Your responses suggest a narcissistic personality and no one here is qualified to help with that.

There is no harassment; everyone here got or gets snarked at at some point. Hell, when I started, I got into some doozies of flames; got modded, went away for a while and now that I am back, I am trying to post more maturely. Not that I will be successfull all the time, but I am trying. I know a recent thread I participated in degenerated into flames, but that guy....well, another story.

I have suggested to you that your many postings are being designed to get women to view your profile, read your journal and become interested in the Man Behind Osf. That would be cool, if in fact, this tactic was working.

As others have said before me, the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. It is also clear that the one being defensive against so many, is usually the one who has to analyze their own posting behavior.

It is cool to be smart, funny, provocative, like to debate, even derail threads, but osf, your postings are not being taken in the way you intend them, unless that is what you want.

You cannot complain about others harassing you if your posts seem to be harassing women. People will not tolerate that and they will not be silent. If the same people keep posting on your threads, how is that different than you starting numerous threads? You seem to want opinions from "others", which I think means people who don't frequent the forums. Not going to happen unless someone drifts over here.

When I have posted to you, you said I did not like you because I disagreed with you. How silly. It is not a matter of like/dislike, I don't know you, don't particularly want to know you, but I stated both publically and privately that replying to a post of yours in disagreement has nothing to do with "like". It has to do with freedom of speech.

You have freedom of speech as well, but do not complain about vultures circling you when you are providing such a tasty carcass.






i have never ever done anything with anybody that wasn't consensual and as play isn't my main interest, i have hardly ever played with someone i didn't know well, i have not , i repeat , not approached any body here for anything, my modus operandi is to let them contact me, so far it works

as i have said all the commotion the ladies raise about me has driven many to check me out and i get some amusing comments on the rukus, so ask me if i find this all negative lolol




divi -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 8:21:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

LP... I don't care for the local community. I have been to a few events. I stopped going. That doesn't make me dangerous.

So I suppose it works both ways. If someone insists on involvement in the community, it would disqualify her as well as me.

On the other hand..... I may be a dick, but I am a non threatening dick..:)


Jeff



Jeff I kinda of take you as a stalker .. not a dick




Jeffff -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 8:23:01 AM)

Yeah do me a favor?  When you undress at night? Do it slowly... I like that..:)





divi -> RE: harrassment on the threads (1/7/2010 8:26:13 AM)

Sure thing doll :)... opens my drapes wider




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