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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 10:20:28 AM   
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VideoAdminAlpha is a bad moderator. She put me on active moderation for expressing a political opinion that does not violate the TOS. It's an abuse of her position and power, and she should not be allowed to moderate this or any other forum.


Like it or not the, the Moderators enforce the rules, and their interpretation goes. The moderators set the strike zone, and this is their field and stadium, not ours.

In my view, adapting and playing ball is not copping out. A simple, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cross the line. I won't do it again," can go a long way.

Why get yourself tossed out of the game? Its better to be flexible.



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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 10:50:13 AM   
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Why get yourself tossed out of the game?


Because he views most of the posters and community norms here as dragons to be slain in a display of his awesome masculinity and in support of his quest for his ideal submissive mate?

Just a guess.

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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 11:36:17 AM   
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That sort of tilting at windmills aint gonna get him any pussy. Girls don't think like that.

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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 11:56:36 AM   
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That sort of tilting at windmills aint gonna get him any pussy. Girls don't think like that.

Ron(ne)


Right to the heart of the matter again Ron.


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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 12:11:13 PM   
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... propensity of wholesale insulting of classes of people unprovoked ...

I can see how someone new would get the impression this is totally allowed and encouraged here.


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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 12:12:33 PM   
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Why would that be, Kitty?  Have you seen many other outright bashing of the military servicemen on other threads?

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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 12:35:46 PM   
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Why would that be, Kitty?  Have you seen many other outright bashing of the military servicemen on other threads?

No, she's just taking turns with cloudboy stirring the pot that originated in the latest forced feminization thread.

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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 1:23:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

That sort of tilting at windmills aint gonna get him any pussy. Girls don't think like that.

Ron(ne)


Dude, Don Quixote totally got some. I mean, c'mon, Dulcinea used to be this whore called Aldonza...

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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 1:28:21 PM   
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LOL, InvisibleBlack....

But you might wanna check for dust mites on that pussy, and it was only the one time.


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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 2:41:39 PM   
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Because he views most of the posters and community norms here as dragons to be slain in a display of his awesome masculinity and in support of his quest for his ideal submissive mate?

Just a guess.


Maybe. Whatever he thinks, though, he must realize that he cannot win. Sometimes this is very hard to accept, and acceptance is not the same as capitulation.

I've chased a whale or two in my lifetime, and it always makes you wonder "is it them" or "is it me" --- (prolonged battles yielding little progress or common ground.)

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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 2:51:20 PM   
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Whoa. Okay ... hang on a sec. Your highest example of femininity is the Princess Aurora in Sleeping Beauty?...


If you asked me to cite an example of the perfectly masculine character, I'd cite the Terminator...


So, your example of a perfectly  masculine character is a machine that feels no pity, no pain, and no fear. A machine that has no moral agency but is programmed with an objective and is constructed to pursue that objective without concern for anything else. A machine with sufficient artificial intelligence to negotiate a complicated and unfamiliar world but no ability to form an opinion of its own or override its programming. A machine that has not purpose to its existence other than to follow orders is the perfectly masculine character.




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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 2:54:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KITTYLECTRO

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminSigma

... propensity of wholesale insulting of classes of people unprovoked ...

I can see how someone new would get the impression this is totally allowed and encouraged here.



What were you saying, k?

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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 3:03:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1


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ORIGINAL: LadyinPain
Any time a male submissive raises an objection to something a fem dom says, he's "stalking her" or is "obsessed with her."...Defend your position - don't make this about your twat.


Hell, any time a man raises an objection to something a woman says someone will accuse him of having issues with women in general.  Politesub53 just pulled that card out and played it on me, and in previous discussions morons like Aynne and sexyred1 have accused me of being obsessed with them because I fought back when they attacked me.This is a major reason so many men have trouble taking women seriously intellectually.  Because as soon as you do, it seems like half of them accuse you of hating women.



tsk, tsk, psychoboy.....morons like me and Aynne and apparently every single other poster who has the displeasure to read your ineffectual poseur bullshit, don't think you are obsessed with us. On the contrary, I think you are obsessed with how lacking you are in your life. You sit in your parlor all day and google all sorts of pseudo-intellectual sound bytes and think by quoting others, you sound smart and insightful. Although citing Disney characters as your basis of comparison is rather lame, even for you.

You don't sound smart. You don't sound interesting. You don't sound charming. You don't sound masculine. You don't sound insightful. You don't sound amusing.

You sound exactly like you are; insecure, insecure, and more insecure. I doubt you would be able to hold your own verbally in a room of mutes.


Morons? Wow...All I can say is that you make me sad for men, actually not men, but men that call themselves Dominant, because you certainly are not.


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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 3:40:58 PM   
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Morons? Wow...All I can say is that you make me sad for men, actually not men, but men that call themselves Dominant, because you certainly are not.


Don't be sad for Dominants-there's a whole bunch of stuff on the 'honor dignity blah blah' thread about how the many don't need to take responsibility for the actions of the few...

Obviously they aren't my cup of tea, but plenty of Doms are awesomeness personified-don't feel sad for them! They are out there being all dominant and having a blast...


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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 3:43:55 PM   
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Not to hi jack... really. but do you actually believe that the actions of one Dominant reflects on all Dominants? Or did I read that wrong


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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 3:43:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucienne
However - I absolutely don't want to go into this digression as it would result in a massive threadjack to no purpose. I do want to ask a question though - you do understand that your viewpoint here is seriously skewed from the normal? That's it's not the typical viewpoint?


Yes, I'm well aware that most people believe that being a soldier is manly and heroic.  But I don't think I'm really that far off.  When was the last time you saw a film or read a book about a soldier and he followed every order, did exactly as he was told, and never questioned his superiors and his orders?  Independence of thought and action is quintessentially masculine, which is why the hero cop is Dirty Harry, and the heroic soldier is the one who defies the orders of his superiors and does what is right.


If independence of thought and action is quintessentially masculine, how is it that the perfectly masculine character is a Cyborg with no will of its own that never deviates from its orders? Do I need to break this down more for you to catch on to the contradiction in your position?


Wow. So by that logic, when I'm having an independant thought, that is me being masculine. Sheesh. I'm surprised my boobs haven't shrunk yet!

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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 4:18:40 PM   
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the many don't need to take responsibility for the actions of the few...


I'm not just confused because I'm tired, am I?

I'm trying to say that Psychonaut's actions reflect on nobody but Psychonaut.


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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 4:21:30 PM   
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the many don't need to take responsibility for the actions of the few...


I'm not just confused because I'm tired, am I?

I'm trying to say that Psychonaut's actions reflect on nobody but Psychonaut.



I got that. And I agree.

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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 4:42:47 PM   
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Phew-you know when you suddenly just lose the logic of a sentence, and then even when you get it again you aren't quite convinced?

I know this is a bit of an abrupt subject change, but if I may, I would like to ask you a question:

Earlier in the thread, RedMagic asked how a Dominant could improve the self esteem of a male sub. You and he both bickered about who should go first, but I've just realised that I don't think either of you did answer the question-there was some kind of distraction, or the discussion moved on.

What would you have said?


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RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 - 1/22/2010 4:43:42 PM   
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What were we speaking of before the jackassery turned raw? Are issues resolved(are they ever)?

I am NOT A ROBOT but a feeling person damn it and if I want to be a sexy man I will be a sexy man...

Domme or No Domme. I enjoy my Masculinity too much. My penis is my friend, not my enemy.




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