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I think hardbodysub could have been more diplomatic, but he does have a point.

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

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Again...both ironic and hilarious.  Take a few more days to figure out exactly why.  Take a couple of weeks...you'll need them.

Gee, honey, your inability to see your own shortcomings and project them onto others has no bounds, does it? How ironic and hilarious your snipes are. Think about it. You won't only need time, you'll need some help. Maybe professional.

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

I get what you're saying but in this case it's not strictly true-there are a few people on that thread objecting to the flamers. I would say there are more posters complaining there than on some of the male-generated wanker threads I've read.

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

I get what you're saying but in this case it's not strictly true-there are a few people on that thread objecting to the flamers. I would say there are more posters complaining there than on some of the male-generated wanker threads I've read.

I went back over that thread and found 2 people who had complained since last I'd looked at it.  However -- and I think this is very telling -- both of those people were soundly told off for having the audacity to presume to tell the regular posters they should STFU if they didn't have something nice to say. 
 
Neither of them were people who regularly bitch and moan about the exact same thing in this forum.  So why is it that we even entertain the idea, however hypothetically, that anyone has the right to tell us how to post or not post as we see fit as long as we don't violate the forum guidelines?  See my thoughts about the existence of a double standard.

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

Just imagine the OP being redirected a bit to discuss femdoms posting about something they want, and men responding that they don't like that, would never want to do that, and why. The response to the men in such cases would be overwhelmingly negative, bitter, and belittling. In such situations, the men are customarily denigrated as being "not real subs", and told to voice their opinions elsewhere.

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Getting back to this thread's OP, however, I don't give a damn who writes the OP. If they're asking for opinions about a particular fetish, or whether people are into it or not, and why, then everyone should feel free to chime right in. If the OP is asking specifically just to hear from people who SHARE that fetish, then someone who just can't stop themselves from raining on the parade has a bit of a problem.

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

God... it is a wonder any femdom can find a male submissive... we are so abusive here... so unfair.

I don't think that we all are insensitive to what submissive men want and many of us wish to know how they feel. How one presents things is often how things get treated on the boards.

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our case of sour grapes because I ignored your attempt to insinuate yourself into my good graces some months ago in the hope I might be interested in having you as my sub finally rears its ugly, mishapen head.  I wondered how long it would take. 

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

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Getting back to this thread's OP, however, I don't give a damn who writes the OP. If they're asking for opinions about a particular fetish, or whether people are into it or not, and why, then everyone should feel free to chime right in. If the OP is asking specifically just to hear from people who SHARE that fetish, then someone who just can't stop themselves from raining on the parade has a bit of a problem.

This wasn't the topic of the OP.  The OP was about complaints of (predominantlly) sub men when the dominant women express their distaste for a particular fetish and those same individuals then telling us, the dominant women for whom this board was created, to shut the fuck up if we don't have anything positive to say.  The OP went on to express the view that those who voice a negative opinion (in the sense of saying they aren't into X, Y, or Z fetish, not negative = snarky) are actually giving the poster valuable information from which he can benefit if he takes the time to read and analyze the responses.
 
I happen to agree with Aakasha that there is something to be learned, even from the snark.  I also agree with you that we could do things a bit differently and try to help new posters more.  Hence the reason I suggested the FAQ, which will include links to threads about common topics and suggestions for how to write a post that won't get a body lambasted for appearing to be a troll.
 
What I don't agree with is that anyone other than the mods has the right to tell the dominant women on this board how they should post, and I posit that anyone who thinks he has that right will, and should be, verbally shredded for his unmitigated gall and overweening arrogance.

Not precisely true. The topic of the OP was ambiguous. It did not make distinctions between OPs that simply ask or talk about a fetish and those that specifically ask for responses from those who SHARE the fetish. My response clearly made the distinction, and stated that sniping negatively when the OP was asking for responses from people with shared interests was counterproductive. I didn't say that there was anything wrong with replying negatively to anything else.

Some people found it easy to comprehend what I wrote. Others, obviously not.

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

LOL... Oh... that explains watching you trying to impress her on the boards. You forget some of us were around and saw all that buttering up/flirting. I remember watching it and laughing about it, thinking she was sooooo the type you went for.... younger than you and pretty. So I guess I projected too or I am just silly revengeful becasue it wasn't me you were after! lol

I was positive at the time you had contacted her... but can't prove that or how I came to conclude that.

Delusions... I think not.

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan


Over on the Masters forum is a thread in which the OP came to the forum, ostensibly under the direction of "her" dominant, to inform the general public of her loyalty to her "master" and the details of their sex life plus a request for ideas for her master to try out on her.  The thread in question has reached five pages of people, dominant and submissive, male and female, essentially pissing all over her, her master, and the thread.  From my quick skim, there is absolutely no one taking exception to the caustic responses generated by the OP.  Not one single voice of dissent or anyone lamenting the cruel dominants who have to rain all over the poor sub's parade and why can't they all just STFU instead.
 
Because, you see, in the back of many minds, it's okay for a woman to get chastised for "bad" behavior, and it's okay for a woman to be told to sit down and shut the fuck up if she doesn't have something pleasant to say, but it's not okay for a woman to tell an equally ill-mannered and uncouth man the exact same thing.  I certainly don't see any of the people who are bitching about women's behavior in this forum running over there to stick up for her and her master or chastise the forum regulars for bad behavior -- Kevin, Hardbody, Cloudboy -- yes, I'm calling all of you on your bullshit double standard. 
 
I'm not suggesting that responses can't or shouldn't be diplomatic whenever possible.  However, that doesn't mean any of us should feel obligated to be diplomatic or remain silent because OH. MY. GAWD. someone's delicate sensibilities might be offended.  Ever hear the saying "if you're bored, then you're boring?"  If you're offended, perhaps it's because you were offensive.

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

So why is it that we even entertain the idea, however hypothetically, that anyone has the right to tell us how to post or not post as we see fit as long as we don't violate the forum guidelines? See my thoughts about the existence of a double standard.

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Exactly my point. I imagine hardbodysub wouldn't dream of telling another male poster that he's being too rude to the OP, yet he won't hesitate to try and reprimand the women for expressing her feelings in a less than polite way. It makes you wonder if he harbors some disrespect for woman in general.