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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 7:22:18 AM   
xxblushesxx


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ORIGINAL: osf

no one was forced to read or post at gun point


How do you know?

Maybe that's why I'm always here...

Maybe Honey Master holds a gun to my head and forces me to post...

He makes me say nice things about him and stuff...

Maybe...


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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 7:23:42 AM   
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no one was forced to read or post at gun point


Who even brought up being "forced"?

I have found this thread to be entertaining to be honest...

I suppose I find it kinda strange that anyone would expect other people to do anything when they are complete strangers..

For example, I do not expect articulate emails. I do not expect people to read my profile or my journal. I do not expect anything from the internet. It just seems rather, hmmmmm, I don't know, futile to expect stuff from strangers...Now I wouldn't respond to those who are obviously not what I desire, but I certainly do not expect the internet to change for me.

I get you have a certain idea of what it is that you want from a relationship.... but to be honest, after reading your profile, it seems less than likely that you will find it. I am not saying that you should change it, because people deserve fair warning, but it is hard to find a regular sort of relationship, much less a kink-friendly one. The more out of the cultural mainstream one's needs are, the harder it is to get those needs met. I am not saying that it is impossible or you shouldn't want that, but it just means that it is going to take more luck, work, and time most likely... and you seem rather frustrated with the process, which further exacerbates how hard it feels ( could be wrong about that).

So when you throw the backdrop of the difficulty of finding what you are looking for against the expectations you have, it seems like you would want to simplify the process by doing what was in your power to communicate with those in your possible "dating" pool (if one can call what we do "dating"). It would increase the likelihood of finding what it is you are looking for if you tried to communicate in a way that is appealing to those you find interesting. You are trying to sell something here, after all, which is the type of relationship you desire. and yourself.

Like I said, those who are the most interesting are those who are the most interested in others. I have found that it is much easier to get attention when I am giving it out... and that is a good lesson for any social environment. 


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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 8:59:16 AM   
osf


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Status: offline 		finding something is easy, finding what i want is not, but i may have, remains to be seen

and i don't expect anyone to do anything, maybe be civil

and the gist of the thread wasn't about what i want it was an observation on what others expect from me

now that's been turned into a whine by those that disagree with me, but so what, i'll sleep well tonight anyway



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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 9:40:58 AM   
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the gist of the thread wasn't about what i want it was an observation on what others expect from me



Hmmmm... you contact someone. They would like more personal approach, you tell them to read your profile and journal. You are the one that initiated the contact. Now in order to continue to communicate a gal may have some "expectations" of those she deems worthy of investing her time in. If you do not want to comply with that, she decides not to explore further.... It does not seem a lot of expectations were thrust upon you. It seems more like someone stated that they have certain standards before they invest themselves. No harm, no foul... it just never goes anywhere.

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that's been turned into a whine by those that disagree with me, but so what, i'll sleep well tonight anyway


Well I neither disagree or agree with you. At the end of the day you are the one that lives in your world. If it is a happy happy joy joy place... go you! I mean that sincerely! On the other hand, if your reality could stand a little improvement, and those offering insights on how that improvement could happen may help you in some way, well why not consider a little friendly advice? That friendly advice may bring you the s-type person of your dreams...

Or do whatever you wanna do... because I can seriously promise you, what you do has no import on my existence.



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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 10:51:26 AM   
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Hmmmm... you contact someone. They would like more personal approach, you tell them to read your profile and journal. You are the one that initiated the contact. Now in order to continue to communicate a gal may have some "expectations" of those she deems worthy of investing her time in. If you do not want to comply with that, she decides not to explore further.... It does not seem a lot of expectations were thrust upon you. It seems more like someone stated that they have certain standards before they invest themselves. No harm, no foul... it just never goes anywhere.


i'm speaking about those female profiles that demand to be contacted in a certain way, almost a form you have to fill out

and the question was directed at other men

i don't mind women answering but calling me full of **** because of what i have observed well,,,,,,,,,,,,

it was just a question and an observance nothing more, not an affront to all the women here with profiles

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 2:41:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

and the question was directed at other men

i don't mind women answering but calling me full of **** because of what i have observed well,,,,,,,,,,,,



Wow.  Just.  Fucking. Wow.  I hope all these girls that you say are contacting you read your posts.  Although I seriously doubt that's an issue.

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 2:58:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

and the question was directed at other men

i don't mind women answering but calling me full of **** because of what i have observed well,,,,,,,,,,,,



Wow.  Just.  Fucking. Wow.  I hope all these girls that you say are contacting you read your posts.  Although I seriously doubt that's an issue.

Cali





yes some of them contact me because of the posts, lololol

you seem to find it difficult to believe that all women aren't just like you

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 3:49:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Osf,

I was going to start a new thread, because I have been left genuinely pondering much of what it is you espouse.  However, I'm not very good at being indirect, and it seemed somewhat cowardly, to me, to make any reference to you without citing you directly. 

I was taking a shower, where it seems I do a lot of thinking, and trying to come up with a generous word for someone who misrepresents themselves here, and basicly 'throws themselves on the sword' ie. sets themselves up as a victim in order to garner the attention of a certain submissive subset. 

The reason this is of so much interest to me, is because I tend to be of that particular mindset - where I often feel compelled to come to the defense of someone I see as being ganged up on.  I don't mind acknowledging myself a dupe, it happens.  I'm a big girl.  That doesn't mean I don't evaluate my critical thinking processes, looking for where the inherent flaws of logic might be. 

When it comes to supporting the supposed victim mindset, one usually makes the association with the vulnerable submissive (speaking in generalities here) coming here and garnering support.  This is the first time I've taken notice of a dominant using this approach.

I fail to see how you are actually reaching your intended target, by misrepresenting yourself, simply to garner sympathy.  The only word I could think of, for someone who participates in this deceptive approach is predator.

Your thoughts on this?

WinD




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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 4:04:05 PM   
osf


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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Osf,

I was going to start a new thread, because I have been left genuinely pondering much of what it is you espouse.  However, I'm not very good at being indirect, and it seemed somewhat cowardly, to me, to make any reference to you without citing you directly. 

I was taking a shower, where it seems I do a lot of thinking, and trying to come up with a generous word for someone who misrepresents themselves here, and basicly 'throws themselves on the sword' ie. sets themselves up as a victim in order to garner the attention of a certain submissive subset. 

The reason this is of so much interest to me, is because I tend to be of that particular mindset - where I often feel compelled to come to the defense of someone I see as being ganged up on.  I don't mind acknowledging myself a dupe, it happens.  I'm a big girl.  That doesn't mean I don't evaluate my critical thinking processes, looking for where the inherent flaws of logic might be. 

When it comes to supporting the supposed victim mindset, one usually makes the association with the vulnerable submissive (speaking in generalities here) coming here and garnering support.  This is the first time I've taken notice of a dominant using this approach.

I fail to see how you are actually reaching your intended target, by misrepresenting yourself, simply to garner sympathy.  The only word I could think of, for someone who participates in this deceptive approach is predator.

Your thoughts on this?

WinD







first of all i never set myself up to be attacked or the victim , that is a result of some here not tolerating other than their orthodoxy, so be it, i'll use it to my advantage

and as to my posts yes they are my views, as i suspect are those of others with views and if they attract women to me with similar views so much the better

and i'm glad you shower and i hope you enjoy yourself

ya know if i wasn't attacked 90% of the drama would disappear

which is ok i'd still get my ideas across

and if the boards are for the free exchange of ideas then that's what i'm doing, so for the life of me i don't understand it, seems like book burning to me


ps. you look cute in the tub


< Message edited by osf -- 1/29/2010 4:06:01 PM >

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 6:11:34 PM   
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When it comes to supporting the supposed victim mindset, one usually makes the association with the vulnerable submissive (speaking in generalities here) coming here and garnering support.  This is the first time I've taken notice of a dominant using this approach.

I fail to see how you are actually reaching your intended target, by misrepresenting yourself, simply to garner sympathy.  The only word I could think of, for someone who participates in this deceptive approach is predator.

Get out of my brain, Win!
I've actually been thinking very much along these lines.


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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 6:30:24 PM   
osf


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Status: offline 		as for being a predator this is the fourth post in my journal

Are you crazy, you don’t want me

while I don’t really know if I’m a sadist or not, I do like to hurt girls

I like them to have a little bit of fear of me. Once in a while to keep that fear alive I’ll beat her bad, painfully bad or make her do that certain thing she loathes. I’ll take her there and rub her face in it and make her eat the thing she hates.

And that night I’ll sleep peacefully while she lies there silently and still so as not to disturb me seething and wanting to kill me.


so they are warned

well maybe i am devious

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 8:31:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: persephonee

aqua....if he gets laid perhaps he will be too worn out to create the threads....

*crosses fingers for him*!



yeah... but wouldn't that cook the goose?

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 8:42:01 PM   
osf


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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 9:02:21 PM   
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The reason this is of so much interest to me, is because I tend to be of that particular mindset - where I often feel compelled to come to the defense of someone I see as being ganged up on.  I don't mind acknowledging myself a dupe, it happens.  I'm a big girl.  That doesn't mean I don't evaluate my critical thinking processes, looking for where the inherent flaws of logic might be. 


I wouldn't so much see that has being a dupe... but a person that exercises a trait of compassion and kindness. I would also say that such a person... very much like my Alandra.... is person that attempts to look beyond the obvious apparent weakness and see some sort of silver lining of the person in question. Something that somehow can come out of the rough and shine so to speak... if only given a chance. People in general don't tend to give an individual of apparent weakness much of a chance and often will over look that silver lining. I kinda think that people like yourself and my Alandra are kinda of nice to have... and even necessary for the good of us all.


quote:


When it comes to supporting the supposed victim mindset, one usually makes the association with the vulnerable submissive (speaking in generalities here) coming here and garnering support.  This is the first time I've taken notice of a dominant using this approach.


It's not an uncommon from what I have seen.


quote:


I fail to see how you are actually reaching your intended target, by misrepresenting yourself, simply to garner sympathy.  The only word I could think of, for someone who participates in this deceptive approach is predator.


I am not so sure that this is a conscious approach of a predator as you label the behaviors observed... or the emotional behavioral downward spiral of a broke person.

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 9:08:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists


quote:


The reason this is of so much interest to me, is because I tend to be of that particular mindset - where I often feel compelled to come to the defense of someone I see as being ganged up on.  I don't mind acknowledging myself a dupe, it happens.  I'm a big girl.  That doesn't mean I don't evaluate my critical thinking processes, looking for where the inherent flaws of logic might be. 


I wouldn't so much see that has being a dupe... but a person that exercises a trait of compassion and kindness. I would also say that such a person... very much like my Alandra.... is person that attempts to look beyond the obvious apparent weakness and see some sort of silver lining of the person in question. Something that somehow can come out of the rough and shine so to speak... if only given a chance. People in general don't tend to give an individual of apparent weakness much of a chance and often will over look that silver lining. I kinda think that people like yourself and my Alandra are kinda of nice to have... and even necessary for the good of us all.


quote:


When it comes to supporting the supposed victim mindset, one usually makes the association with the vulnerable submissive (speaking in generalities here) coming here and garnering support.  This is the first time I've taken notice of a dominant using this approach.


It's not an uncommon from what I have seen.


quote:


I fail to see how you are actually reaching your intended target, by misrepresenting yourself, simply to garner sympathy.  The only word I could think of, for someone who participates in this deceptive approach is predator.


I am not so sure that this is a conscious approach of a predator as you label the behaviors observed... or the emotional behavioral downward spiral of a broke person.



you must be a tea bagger to not let facts form your opinions

i spell it out plainly for anyone to see

the pomposity of the costumed never ceases to amaze me

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 10:24:13 PM   
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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 10:32:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kana

Ahhhh, the final resort of the sad-ad hominem.
Grabs popcorn, sits back to watch....




no, pomposity fits him very well

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 10:51:31 PM   
Kana


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Status: offline 		My man. Engage properly. If you have a point, argue it, debate it on its merits. Whether we agree or disagree, you'll win respect for having thought your points out.
But don't sling poo, it upsets the monkeys.

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 11:00:07 PM   
osf


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ORIGINAL: Kana

My man. Engage properly. If you have a point, argue it, debate it on its merits. Whether we agree or disagree, you'll win respect for having thought your points out.
But don't sling poo, it upsets the monkeys.


good point , but when your detractors go on and on making up their own facts and picking your statements out of context it sometimes gets s bit much

i say all means lets argue the facts and my views as stated but lets not make stuff up

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 11:07:41 PM   
Kana


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Status: offline 		This is the net, dude. If you write it down, assume at some point it will be used against you.
That's a general safety precaution for all web writing, not just here.
And once it's out there in the public domain, it's out there forever.


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