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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 11:09:47 PM   
osf


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This is the net, dude. If you write it down, assume at some point it will be used against you.


it's not all that bad for me actually, the drama drives people to perv me



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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 11:14:31 PM   
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Yeah, but at some point you have to start asking what you want to be known for.


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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/29/2010 11:27:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kana

Yeah, but at some point you have to start asking what you want to be known for.




people who interest me ask, others can think what they will, i don't loose sleep over what's said online

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 4:27:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance


I fail to see how you are actually reaching your intended target, by misrepresenting yourself, simply to garner sympathy.  The only word I could think of, for someone who participates in this deceptive approach is predator.

Your thoughts on this?

WinD




Really? The terms that come to my mind are: whiny, laughable and unable to dominate his way out of a paper bag.

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 6:06:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: osf


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

This is the net, dude. If you write it down, assume at some point it will be used against you.


it's not all that bad for me actually, the drama drives people to perv me







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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 6:46:40 AM   
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I reckon Osf that your time would be better spent nurturing your budding relationship rather than wasting time trying to get more people looking at your profile, if you have found someone who fits your very specific criteria then what the hell are you doing here man

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 6:59:21 AM   
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I reckon Osf that your time would be better spent nurturing your budding relationship rather than wasting time trying to get more people looking at your profile, if you have found someone who fits your very specific criteria then what the hell are you doing here man


very good question but i'm not answering it

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 7:14:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally
...... if you have found someone who fits your very specific criteria then what the hell are you doing here man



answering that question I suspect would requirr facing a truth that he would otherwise like to avoid. Please don't ask such question for the sake of the goose!

< Message edited by KnightofMists -- 1/30/2010 7:15:06 AM >


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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 7:22:22 AM   
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first of all i never set myself up to be attacked or the victim , that is a result of some here not tolerating other than their orthodoxy, so be it, i'll use it to my advantage


It appeared you were content to present the impression that you had orchestrated just that, and played all of us unknowing dupes.  This is where my disconnect formed.  As for intolerance, I don't see those who have disagreed with you as being intolerant.  I would see them (me) as simply debating an opposed perspective. 

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ORIGINAL: osf
and as to my posts yes they are my views, as i suspect are those of others with views and if they attract women to me with similar views so much the better


Are they really your views though?  You back pedal a great deal, and you seem to take great pains to misrepresent yourself, for reasons I can't quite fathom.

For example: 
You are a self proclaimed creative misogynist who later states that he loves women.
You want a shut up and be seen not heard slave, but later say you love talking to women and getting to know them on an intimate level.
You stated that you felt remorse and self-loathing for hurting women, then state in your journal that you sleep peacefully after doing so.

I could go on, the discrepencies of who you present yourself as on these boards is documented, but I'm not trying to attack you, or put you on the defensive.  There are just too many incongruities, and I can't help but feel compelled to put them in order! 

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

and i'm glad you shower and i hope you enjoy yourself


Indeed.

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ORIGINAL: osf

ya know if i wasn't attacked 90% of the drama would disappear

which is ok i'd still get my ideas across


Do you really view everyone who disagrees with you as attacking you?
Do you really get YOUR ideas across?  Because after a month of following your posts quite closely, I am no closer to really knowing what your honest, transparent views are - other than you like to hurt women.  

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf
and if the boards are for the free exchange of ideas then that's what i'm doing, so for the life of me i don't understand it, seems like book burning to me


I read this as "when I say it, it is a free exchange of ideas, when anyone disagrees with me, it is a book burning."
Am I misinterpreting this?

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ORIGINAL: osf
ps. you look cute in the tub


Thank you 

< Message edited by WinsomeDefiance -- 1/30/2010 7:39:42 AM >

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 7:31:39 AM   
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I suppose there's a first for everything. I've come to find myself agreeing with osf about something. 

...

You really do look cute sitting in that tub!

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 7:49:32 AM   
WinsomeDefiance


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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

I wouldn't so much see that has being a dupe... but a person that exercises a trait of compassion and kindness. I would also say that such a person... very much like my Alandra.... is person that attempts to look beyond the obvious apparent weakness and see some sort of silver lining of the person in question. Something that somehow can come out of the rough and shine so to speak... if only given a chance. People in general don't tend to give an individual of apparent weakness much of a chance and often will over look that silver lining. I kinda think that people like yourself and my Alandra are kinda of nice to have... and even necessary for the good of us all.

Thank you, I like your impression much better so I think I'll adopt it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists
It's not an uncommon from what I have seen.

I haven't really taken notice of it before, but I think I'll be paying closer attention now.


quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists
I am not so sure that this is a conscious approach of a predator as you label the behaviors observed... or the emotional behavioral downward spiral of a broke person.


I was trying to find another word for what he appears to be doing and couldn't find one, but predator kept insinuating itself into my thoughts.  I dont' really believe Osf is a predator, but there are some times when I really wonder about him.  I think he's doing himself a diservice by inadvertently misrepresenting himself - otherwise he's deliberately misleading those very submissives that come to his defense.

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 7:52:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JBGolden

I suppose there's a first for everything. I've come to find myself agreeing with osf about something. 

...

You really do look cute sitting in that tub!



Thank you

I'm really starting to like this picture for my avatar!  I think I'll keep it - gets me lots of positive attention.

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 8:00:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

quote:

ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance


I fail to see how you are actually reaching your intended target, by misrepresenting yourself, simply to garner sympathy.  The only word I could think of, for someone who participates in this deceptive approach is predator.

Your thoughts on this?

WinD




Really? The terms that come to my mind are: whiny, laughable and unable to dominate his way out of a paper bag.


To misquote our resident anteater -

Don't hold back, tell us what you really think

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 8:02:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: osf


quote:

ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally

I reckon Osf that your time would be better spent nurturing your budding relationship rather than wasting time trying to get more people looking at your profile, if you have found someone who fits your very specific criteria then what the hell are you doing here man


very good question but i'm not answering it


Imagine my total shock that you don't want to answer anything that needs an honest response about yourself.

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 9:19:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

first of all i never set myself up to be attacked or the victim , that is a result of some here not tolerating other than their orthodoxy, so be it, i'll use it to my advantage


It appeared you were content to present the impression that you had orchestrated just that, and played all of us unknowing dupes. This is where my disconnect formed. As for intolerance, I don't see those who have disagreed with you as being intolerant. I would see them (me) as simply debating an opposed perspective.



( no I could show you some rather vile attacks on me and one that went beyond any bounds of decency , and usually by the same crew and hangers on )

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf
and as to my posts yes they are my views, as i suspect are those of others with views and if they attract women to me with similar views so much the better


Are they really your views though? You back pedal a great deal, and you seem to take great pains to misrepresent yourself, for reasons I can't quite fathom.

For example:
You are a self proclaimed creative misogynist who later states that he loves women.
You want a shut up and be seen not heard slave, but later say you love talking to women and getting to know them on an intimate level.
You stated that you felt remorse and self-loathing for hurting women, then state in your journal that you sleep peacefully after doing so.

I could go on, the discrepencies of who you present yourself as on these boards is documented, but I'm not trying to attack you, or put you on the defensive. There are just too many incongruities, and I can't help but feel compelled to put them in order!

( the sig you don’t see as humor?

And you don’t recognize metaphors?

And where did the remorse come from?)

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

and i'm glad you shower and i hope you enjoy yourself


Indeed.

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

ya know if i wasn't attacked 90% of the drama would disappear

which is ok i'd still get my ideas across


Do you really view everyone who disagrees with you as attacking you?
Do you really get YOUR ideas across? Because after a month of following your posts quite closely, I am no closer to really knowing what your honest, transparent views are - other than you like to hurt women.


( to those I want, yes my ideas get across)

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf
and if the boards are for the free exchange of ideas then that's what i'm doing, so for the life of me i don't understand it, seems like book burning to me


I read this as "when I say it, it is a free exchange of ideas, when anyone disagrees with me, it is a book burning."
Am I misinterpreting this?


( absolutely I never dish an honest disagreement positively stated, it’s the negativity I dislike, I may be wrong but I don’t remember ever insulting you and we disagree but you don’t state your disagreements in purely personaly negative terms)

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf
ps. you look cute in the tub


Thank you



and you still look cute in the tub, let's have a pic of you getting out, lol

< Message edited by osf -- 1/30/2010 9:24:08 AM >


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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 9:56:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance
I was trying to find another word for what he appears to be doing and couldn't find one, but predator kept insinuating itself into my thoughts.  I dont' really believe Osf is a predator, but there are some times when I really wonder about him.  I think he's doing himself a diservice by inadvertently misrepresenting himself - otherwise he's deliberately misleading those very submissives that come to his defense.



well... I can't see that I have seen a flock of submissives flock to his goose and defend on the forums. Though I have seen a person or two try to give him the benefit of the doubt. As far as the apparent emails of support he gets.... well lets just say that Santa Clause is real too.

He might be doing himself a diservice... but I really don't think he cares otherwise there would be an obvious attempt/effort to change his approach. He has his way and he will stick to it till his goose is cooked!

< Message edited by KnightofMists -- 1/30/2010 10:09:21 AM >


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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 10:04:15 AM   
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He might be doing himself a diservice... but I really don't think he cares others there would be an obvious attempt/effort to change his approach. He has his way and he will stick to it till his goose is cooked!



and it works for me, or i'd change it lol

and spelling out what you want is in no way being a predator

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 11:20:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

quote:

He might be doing himself a diservice... but I really don't think he cares others there would be an obvious attempt/effort to change his approach. He has his way and he will stick to it till his goose is cooked!



and it works for me, or i'd change it lol

and spelling out what you want is in no way being a predator


The person I see presented here on the boards, very often seems disconnected from the person in your profile, but you seem happy with your approach and results, so ok yep, I guess it is about a 'nuff said moment. 


WinD

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 11:28:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

quote:

He might be doing himself a diservice... but I really don't think he cares others there would be an obvious attempt/effort to change his approach. He has his way and he will stick to it till his goose is cooked!



and it works for me, or i'd change it lol

and spelling out what you want is in no way being a predator


The person I see presented here on the boards, very often seems disconnected from the person in your profile, but you seem happy with your approach and results, so ok yep, I guess it is about a 'nuff said moment. 


WinD


in my profile i took the time to get it right, here i'm rushed and i'm also the worlds worst typist

so if you gave a question, my profile is the authoritative source or you could just ask for clarification, i'm always up for that

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RE: I wrote everything in my profile and journal - 1/30/2010 12:40:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

quote:

ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance
I was trying to find another word for what he appears to be doing and couldn't find one, but predator kept insinuating itself into my thoughts.  I dont' really believe Osf is a predator, but there are some times when I really wonder about him.  I think he's doing himself a diservice by inadvertently misrepresenting himself - otherwise he's deliberately misleading those very submissives that come to his defense.



well... I can't see that I have seen a flock of submissives flock to his goose and defend on the forums. Though I have seen a person or two try to give him the benefit of the doubt. As far as the apparent emails of support he gets.... well lets just say that Santa Clause is real too.

He might be doing himself a diservice... but I really don't think he cares otherwise there would be an obvious attempt/effort to change his approach. He has his way and he will stick to it till his goose is cooked!


I actually don't think he's misrepresenting himself.
To me, he comes across on the board exactly as he does in email, on yahoo and on the phone. I do think that a lot of his communication is deliberately cryptic though, anyone not willing to look beyond the surface comments is only going to see well... the surface...
When looking further than that, I do think there is method to the madness.

However, I also think that for most people here on CM there is no point in looking beyond his particular comments, because what they are looking for here on the boards isn't the same thing as what those who he directs his message to are looking for. So I do understand why most people would write him off in one way or another.
*shrugs*
I've got the feeling that suits him pretty well though.


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