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RE: breeding ? - 1/31/2010 6:53:35 PM

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Yes. Extreme lifestyles draw the damaged like a candle to a moth. As for her use of the word "breeding" it isn't accidental- its an erotic device, like referring to oneself in the third person, a way of objectifying a person, making it seem exotic and deliciously taboo.

Somehow "My boyfriend and I are planning to have a baby" just isn't as wildly dark and wicked-sounding as "My Owner has decided to breed this slave".

One phrase gives people a boner, the other one just brings up images of cruising the minivan around the Toys R Us parking lot.

That's the problem though isn't it? I mean there are plenty of couples here who have been together for a significant period of time, they have a stable, well established relationship. If one of them came on and made the statement about "breeding," no one would bat an eye and I believe most would be very supportive. But when you haven't even known someone for 6 months, and then you are going in that direction after living together less than a month? That's insane at best, worthy of someone having the person committed at worst.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/31/2010 7:03:09 PM

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very interesting that so many of you jump to "conclusions and detour " the thread with otherwise snide meaningless and even name calling, replies. imagination can and does run extremely wild on a message boards such as this. Master is older then myself, late 50's had a married life prior, which created a child, sadly Masters child passed on way before His time many years ago. The empty place in his heart is something I am honored to help with, if able. I'm older yes, and have regrete children were never in my thoughts, my career and endless search for men was. I recently had my yearly exam and my Doctor in the states stated I am in good health so we are trying to find a local Doctor now. Master is more then emotionally and financially stable, I'm not allowed to work, my place is home. After we discussed the financial aspects in person. He has set up a personal bank and I am allotted a monthly allowance for savings and for emergency... Masters child would want for nothing. Master is more then willing to handle ALL the needs of this child. Master says though it will change me alot,in many ways, but I will always be a slave to Him first, and it wont be my biggest responsibility to raise and guide a child, that is His job. If for some medical reason Master is unable to breed me, He has selected a few local donors to help the process. these male donors know and understand they would only be a sperm donor. Master has complete control over my emotions and destiny, maybe that is the reason my motherly instincts are not showing, hard to show emotions when reality has not hit home for me yet.Thank You.

subtlebottomgirl (assuming your dilemma is real),

You've received some harsh criticism here that is obligatory considering the subject matter, but it is not all without some good points. In the end, no one but you can determine how connected you are to your Master, or to what lengths you will go to serve and please him and why. I would try to see past the vitriol and give the cautionary notes some consideration, however. If you come here seeking validation of a such a loaded issue as slave breeding, you're in the wrong place. If you come here with a mature and balanced mind, I'd say you may find opportunity in that some comments run directly to challenging your understanding of slavery itself. In this light, even the most scornful comments here become a helpful exercise—not an offensive one. Look past the stupid personal attacks and the name calling and reflect upon each grain of logical dissent. Weigh it with what you know about yourself and your situation. If the criticism doesn't stick compared to what you truly know in your heart and mind, it has no power.

I felt HisSweetElysium made a good point about time frames. Be certain your state of faith and devotion is full and sincere before giving over your body as something that will be, for all intents and purposes, owned.

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RE: breeding ? - 1/31/2010 11:37:13 PM

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Does a Master or Owner of a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ? with other men ?

Where does the responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?

How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?
Thank you.

subtlebottomgirl,

Let me begin by stating that I'm responding to your question from the standpoint of one that is owned and enslaved. Based upon the criteria mentioned in your opening sentence. No other assumptions are made save these things.

As her owner he is within his right to lend and breed his property if he desires to do such by virtue of the authority she's given him. However, whether he elects to exercise that authority in circumstances as these is a different matter.

When you query if it is an absolute right you're introducing a bevy of ideologies that I lack the time and inclination to delve into. The fundamental truth is either one is or isn't enslaved. She's surrendered or she is not. I won't entertain ideas regarding limits and such. We are speaking of property and many of those concepts do not fly, although and I say this very tongue and cheek, some permit them. Nonetheless, the idea or concept if you will has always been suggested she adheres to the standards he creates.

In regard to responsibilities, there are theoretical notions, societal laws, and the realities of her station. I'm sure you understand the legal ramifications of such, but she's owned, and that is the standpoint I'll address. In all actuality it is up to him. If he elects to place the child elsewhere that will occur. If he chooses for the child to remain with the biological father that will be the outcome. On the other hand, if he decides it will remain in his province and the bulk of responsibility falls upon her shoulders, guess what that means? Exactly.

The effect the situation would have upon the relationship is largely dependent on the two parties involved and to some degree the third. If she is sincerely bound to him and has an obedient mindset, as difficult as it is for some to conceptualize she may have little trouble complying. Yes I recognize we're speaking of human life, but the reality is that it would have the same weight that other challenges could or have had upon her in the past. Of course there are other factors such as maturity, attachment to the offspring, and if the donor desires any relations with the child.

In ideal circumstances the relationship would be unharmed, but the best laid plans often falter. There are a host of unknowns, but truthfully those are not her domain and the responsibility of the dominant to appropriately plan for and counteract if necessary. I have intentionally avoided reading most of the responses to this thread and chose to reply to the questions posed. I don't consider the above harsh realities of enslavement, but a manner of living that isn't well suited for most. Nor are scenarios such as these foreign or representative of most dynamics. I believe it highlights the necessity to give careful consideration to what one sincerely surrenders on the kneel. Best wishes.

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RE: breeding ? - 2/1/2010 12:27:47 AM

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Why, hello.

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RE: breeding ? - 2/1/2010 6:09:28 AM

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Master has complete control over my emotions and destiny

No! No, no no NO NO NO!

You do not, do not DO NOT bring a child into the world with the thought process of "Oh I won't have to really do much for it. The father will." You selfish, immature brat of a woman! Yes, great, he wants a child. Wonderful.

Did you ever, Ever, EVER stop to think about what having a mother who basically wants very little to DO with the child rearing process would do to the child? Oh yeah dad loves me. Mom just had me to make him happy. Yeah. YEAH. That's a well brought up child right there. You. Should never. Have children. EVER. You ADMIT you have no maternal instinct. You ADMIT you really don't want much to do with the child. You want to have it just because he wants it?

What happens, PREY TELL, if he and you don't work out? What happens to the child? Do you just wash your hands of it and give it to him because he's the one that wanted it anyway? You are an insult to the word mother.You do not have a child that YOU DO NOT WANT. PERIOD. You don't want this child. You just want to make your "master" happy.

I just...I have not the words for my rage. I have not the WORDS.

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RE: breeding ? - 2/1/2010 6:34:17 AM

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very interesting that so many of you jump to "conclusions and detour " the thread with otherwise snide meaningless and even name calling, replies. imagination can and does run extremely wild on a message boards such as this. Master is older then myself, late 50's had a married life prior, which created a child, sadly Masters child passed on way before His time many years ago. The empty place in his heart is something I am honored to help with, if able. I'm older yes, and have regrete children were never in my thoughts, my career and endless search for men was. I recently had my yearly exam and my Doctor in the states stated I am in good health so we are trying to find a local Doctor now. Master is more then emotionally and financially stable, I'm not allowed to work, my place is home. After we discussed the financial aspects in person. He has set up a personal bank and I am allotted a monthly allowance for savings and for emergency... Masters child would want for nothing. Master is more then willing to handle ALL the needs of this child. Master says though it will change me alot,in many ways, but I will always be a slave to Him first, and it wont be my biggest responsibility to raise and guide a child, that is His job. If for some medical reason Master is unable to breed me, He has selected a few local donors to help the process. these male donors know and understand they would only be a sperm donor. Master has complete control over my emotions and destiny, maybe that is the reason my motherly instincts are not showing, hard to show emotions when reality has not hit home for me yet.Thank You.

Have you ever even had a pet?!! If so, did you keep it, nurture it and care for it until it died of old age?

You have no IDEA of the enormity of raising children. I feel like I'm talking to a 16 year old who wants a baby because she wants "something to love". And at least THAT child would have the love of its mother.

I have to agree with you when you say reality has not hit home for you yet. You really need to consider the implications of your actions before you bring an innocent soul into this world.

You need to go stay with some friends who have kids. Offer to care for them for a couple of weeks so your friends can take a vacation. It ain't all Micky Mouse and Oreos, let me tell ya!

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RE: breeding ? - 2/1/2010 7:53:01 AM

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Does a Master or Owner of a collared and owned slave (female for obvious reasons) have the absolute right to breed his slave ? with other men ?

A master/owner has no absolute rights regarding another person.

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Where does the responsibility to take care of the off springs lay ?

In many states, including the one I live in, if the couple are married, the husband is legally the father no matter who the "sperm donor" is. A paternity test showing otherwise has no legal bearing.

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How would it change the dynamics of the realtionship ?

Oh wait... are you asking about rights and responsibilities regarding the relationship that are unique to each relationship and therefore no sweeping generalization can be made, or are you talking about legal status?

Cali

What CaliChick said. Our lifestyle is voluntary. To force anyone to do anything they do not want to do is wrong.

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RE: breeding ? - 2/1/2010 5:59:44 PM

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Breeding is a total fantasy.... I would hope. My god what right does any consenting adult have to bring an innocent human being into this dynamic? Please, when I hear that term it makes me criinge (unless it is part of a scene where everyone knows it is just FOR FUN FANTASY,,,, fwiw

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RE: breeding ? - 2/2/2010 10:00:07 PM

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LA, I was saying that because the OP lumped everyone, femdoms and subs together in one sentence and I wanted to separate it all to make my bullet points.

I don't have to give anyone carte blanche, so please don't take it wrong.

Oh I so did not take it wrong ;-)

- LA

I have to agree with this entirely. I'm 27 and my child's three. I cannot even consider having to run after a toddler in my forties, or for that matter arguing with a teen in my sixties! The exhaustion! Ugh!

I'm pretty sure no thought has been given to this at all other than "that would be so hawt".

Umm I have not read the whole thread but babe? be a grandma, then...you are OVER forty running after toddlers, and I dread the teens with em!!!! :)

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RE: breeding ? - 2/2/2010 10:23:00 PM

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Umm I have not read the whole thread but babe? be a grandma, then...you are OVER forty running after toddlers, and I dread the teens with em!!!! :)

A most intelligent and insightful comment ... ROFL .... You are Sooooo right! My compliments!

If it takes a village to raise a child ... it takes all ages! <big smiles>

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RE: breeding ? - 2/2/2010 10:23:23 PM

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LA, I was saying that because the OP lumped everyone, femdoms and subs together in one sentence and I wanted to separate it all to make my bullet points.

I don't have to give anyone carte blanche, so please don't take it wrong.

Oh I so did not take it wrong ;-)

- LA

I have to agree with this entirely. I'm 27 and my child's three. I cannot even consider having to run after a toddler in my forties, or for that matter arguing with a teen in my sixties! The exhaustion! Ugh!

I'm pretty sure no thought has been given to this at all other than "that would be so hawt".

Umm I have not read the whole thread but babe? be a grandma, then...you are OVER forty running after toddlers, and I dread the teens with em!!!! :)

Well yes but grammas get to send them home! XD

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RE: breeding ? - 2/2/2010 10:27:32 PM

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Not always soon enough..........

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RE: breeding ? - 2/2/2010 10:28:22 PM

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Umm I have not read the whole thread but babe? be a grandma, then...you are OVER forty running after toddlers, and I dread the teens with em!!!! :)

A most intelligent and insightful comment ... ROFL .... You are Sooooo right! My compliments!

If it takes a village to raise a child ... it takes all ages! <big smiles>

Call it life experience,,,,I have 6- grinz

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RE: breeding ? - 2/2/2010 10:29:58 PM

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Umm I have not read the whole thread but babe? be a grandma, then...you are OVER forty running after toddlers, and I dread the teens with em!!!! :)

A most intelligent and insightful comment ... ROFL .... You are Sooooo right! My compliments!

If it takes a village to raise a child ... it takes all ages! <big smiles>

Call it life experience,,,,I have 6- grinz

And you don't look a day over 33... how DO you do it? ;-)

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RE: breeding ? - 2/2/2010 10:32:17 PM

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Umm I have not read the whole thread but babe? be a grandma, then...you are OVER forty running after toddlers, and I dread the teens with em!!!! :)

A most intelligent and insightful comment ... ROFL .... You are Sooooo right! My compliments!

If it takes a village to raise a child ... it takes all ages! <big smiles>

Call it life experience,,,,I have 6- grinz

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Call it life experience,,,,I have 6- grinz

This truly qualifies You as an expert! Have a wonderful evening!

Regardless of what the youngen's think ROFL

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RE: breeding ? - 2/2/2010 10:38:29 PM

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Umm I have not read the whole thread but babe? be a grandma, then...you are OVER forty running after toddlers, and I dread the teens with em!!!! :)

A most intelligent and insightful comment ... ROFL .... You are Sooooo right! My compliments!

If it takes a village to raise a child ... it takes all ages! <big smiles>

Call it life experience,,,,I have 6- grinz

And you don't look a day over 33... how DO you do it? ;-)

- LA

Shhhh ... now everyone is going to want her/him ... LOL

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RE: breeding ? - 2/2/2010 10:41:27 PM

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Shhhh ... now everyone is going to want her/him ... LOL

Pssssst sO2...

Grandma = Her

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RE: breeding ? - 2/2/2010 10:50:28 PM

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Stupid me ... Grandma is quite gender specific ... isn't it! LOL

Well once again ... the J stands for genius!

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RE: breeding ? - 2/2/2010 10:54:26 PM

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Stupid me ... Grandma is quite gender specific ... isn't it! LOL

Well once again ... the J stands for genius!

Don't let that get you too cozy... once every 28 days she still nukes someone.

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RE: breeding ? - 2/2/2010 11:08:28 PM

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Don't let that get you too cozy... once every 28 days she still nukes someone.

Smiles ... that is why i have many more compliments for Her .... to keep myself off the nuke list for ... well for ever! LOL

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