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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/7/2010 6:42:06 AM   
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I don't think he does irony. His sub does all of the irony for him, right after she's emptied the tumble drier...

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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/7/2010 7:59:57 AM   
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Liberals seem condescending to conservatives because conservatives have an inferiority complex of astronomical proportions  .  

Liberals seem condescending to conservatives because they're not persuaded by conservative wedge issues, which pisses off the conservatives no end  .

Liberals seem condescending to conservatives because in their hearts, the conservatives know full well that the liberal political philosophy is far closer to the preachings of Jesus than the Lee Atwater school of thought is, yet the conservatives have claimed Jesus as one of their own  .
 
Liberals seem condescending to conservatives because they tend to have higher cultural standards, and don't listen to right-wing wackos on talk radio. That pisses off the conservatives who in turn call the libs 'elitist'  .

Liberals seem condescending to conservatives because they're taller, healthier, more intelligent and more beautiful, have bigger cocks, tinglier clits, and are better in bed.

Whoever said generalisations were bad  ?
 


Numerous pages of "Us v Them" OP's and responses with few redeeming aspects.

But there was this one: more "tinglier clits."

I love it.

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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/7/2010 11:24:59 AM   
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Liberals seem condescending to conservatives because they're taller, healthier, more intelligent and more beautiful, have bigger cocks, tinglier clits, and are better in bed.


LOL and so true.  At least in my experience.  sowwy






What is really sad, is I don't think either one of them is kidding.

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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/7/2010 11:34:06 AM   
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Lots of people screaming "Wake up! Get a clue!" all while readily accepting the fiction of a world divided into liberals and conservatives, ignoring the moderate majority.

Just makes you want to shake your head. People are so easily played.

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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/7/2010 11:45:51 AM   
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ad hominen doesnt fly on this side of the pond. He was right, and the liberals on this board prove it.


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And we of course thank you for your brave and noble service.


Two quotes of yours a few posts apart. Ironic huh.



If you think there is any connection between those two quotes, you need to learn what ad hominen is.

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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/7/2010 12:37:26 PM   
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Max Cleland lost because of despicable right wing smears and lies.


I've asked others to show me those smears and lies. Haven't seen them.
(There was, years ago, a horrific scandal involving the Senator and some taped telephone conversations. He was done very wrongly. But it wasn't a factor in the cycle wherein he lost, and as I recall wasn't even Repulican inspired).
The fact is he won in the first place because of his status as a Viet Nam "hero". The truth is that he blew himself up, drunk, playing with a grenade (well, at least, that's the accepted story. Suicide attempt? Who knows?)
I actually met the Senator once or twice, observed him several times, talked to some people who knew him pretty well. I do not know anyone who had a bad personal opinion of him, or had a bad personal experience with him. Certainly including me.
But he was no hero, and he wasn't smeared, to my knowledge.


It never ceases to amaze me how low some people will stoop to make a political point.

Listen closely sock puppet, Max Cleland lost three limbs serving his country.  For you to make light of it is beyond reprehensible.


The True Story of Max Cleland's Vietnam Injuries


The 2nd of the 12th Cavalry was engaged in a combat operation at the time of this incident. Max Cleland was with the Battalion Forward Command Post in heavy combat involving the attack of the 1st Cavalry Division up the valley to relieve the Marines who were besieged and surrounded at the Khe Shan Firebase.


The whole surrounding area was an active combat zone (some might call the entire country of Vietnam a combat zone). (Is Iraq a combat zone?) Max, the Battalion Signal Officer, was engaged in a combat mission I personally ordered to increase the effectiveness of communications between the battalion combat forward and rear support elements: e.g. Erect a radio relay antenna on a mountain top.


By the way, at one point the battalion rear elements came under enemy artillery fire so everyone was in harms way.


As they were getting off the helicopter, Max saw the grenade on the ground and he instinctively went for it. Soldiers in combat don't leave grenades lying around on the ground. Later, in the hospital, he said he thought it was his own but I doubt the concept of "ownership" went through his mind in the split seconds involved in reaching for the grenade.


Nearly two decades later another soldier came forward and admitted it was actually his grenade. Does ownership of the grenade really matter? It does not.



Maury Cralle'
Battalion Executive Officer
2d/12th Cavalry Battalion
1st Air Cavalry Division
During the assault on Khe Shan


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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/7/2010 5:01:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ad hominen doesnt fly on this side of the pond. He was right, and the liberals on this board prove it.


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And we of course thank you for your brave and noble service.


Two quotes of yours a few posts apart. Ironic huh.



If you think there is any connection between those two quotes, you need to learn what ad hominen is.


So your quote to Rex wasnt an attack then ?  You claim to dislike personal attacks but use them in many of your posts.

And for what its worth NG is correct about Churchill. Winston changed sides as it suited him.

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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/7/2010 7:49:22 PM   
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One of the things that's always amazed me, and it becomes more obvious over time if you can step back a little and watch the political process - is how identical the two major political machines are in the United States. This probably comes as no surprise since they all hang out together, go to the same schools, and hire the same people to run their campaigns and take their polls.

Look.

When your side wins, it's always because you have a mandate from the people - who obviously must be intelligent and clearly understand the issues.

When your side loses, it's always because the other side used lies and dirty tricks to deceive the people - who are too stupid to really understand the issues and see through the lies and deceptions.

When someone from your party reaches out to the other side, they are a greedy sell-out and traitor.

When someone from the other party reaches out to your side, they are an enlightened individual making a choice based on reason and sound principles.

Your positions are based on reason and logic and are so self-evidently right that they really cannot be debated.

Their positions are either based on naivete, stupidity or self-serving greed disguised behind a facade of concern to take advantage of the gullible.

When someone from your side does something reprehensible -it's okay because their heart and mind are in the right place and we can forgive them.

When someone from the other side does something reprehensible - they're dirty vile hypocritical scum and need to be destroyed as their true nature (total evil) has been revealed.

Anyone who doesn't agree with the above and your positions are either ignorant, willfully blind, or just outright evil.


Wake the fuck up. No one has a monopoly on being right. If you look back at the political issues of a century ago - sometimes one side was wrong, sometimes the other side was wrong and, hey, sometimes they both were wrong. It's no different today.

Very few people are interested in looking for answers or solving problems. They're more concerned with having their beliefs validated. That requires them to both find and support people who agree with them and to denigrate and drive off those who disagree with them.

It's not really about doing the right thing, helping people or making things better. It's about making damn sure that you're right, even if you're not. That is the problem.

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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/7/2010 9:57:52 PM   
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It's just a game we all play...everyone knows the rules of partisan politics…few are fooled. That is why there is so much disgust with congress in general.

They are not fooling you or me and they know it…they just play the game as it’s been played for the last 40 years or so. They have no choice in the matter they either conform or they are not re-elected. We have no choice but to vote and hope things will change.

Partisan politics will only change if and when a third party breaks up their party…I think it will happen…who knows maybe the Tea Beggars will become a third party.

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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/8/2010 7:10:03 AM   
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It's just a game we all play...everyone knows the rules of partisan politics…few are fooled. That is why there is so much disgust with congress in general.


Why, then, is it played here? Why aren't people disgusted with themselves for playing it?


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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/8/2010 8:59:43 AM   
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We have but two choices...I think we just pick the best of the worse and hope for the best...If there were a good third party reform candidate with a chance for election I would vote for them, NOT a Tea party nutcase.

Don’t ask me for whom that would be…I don’t see anyone ready to step up that I could support. So I will not throw my vote away so I vote for the better of two evils.

Butch


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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/8/2010 2:21:53 PM   
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A nice, gentle, bit of analysis about behaviors we get see around here on a regular basis.  Probably too gentle.
 
Every political community includes some members who insist that their side has all the answers and that their adversaries are idiots. But American liberals, to a degree far surpassing conservatives, appear committed to the proposition that their views are correct, self-evident, and based on fact and reason, while conservative positions are not just wrong but illegitimate, ideological and unworthy of serious consideration. Indeed, all the appeals to bipartisanship notwithstanding, President Obama and other leading liberal voices have joined in a chorus of intellectual condescension.

Why are liberals so condescending?




Personally, I see a lot of it on both sides of the fence.


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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/8/2010 7:28:47 PM   
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"Liberals (and socialists) favour rationalism. "

That is your charaterization, not Oakeshotts, and it is of course preposterous. Liberalism is based entirely on emotion.


No, it was a characterisation by Michael Oakeshott  (who is a very highly-regarded conservative philosopher).  He explored it in his book Rationalism in Politics.  If you're interested you can find a summary of his book here:
 
http://www.conservativemonitor.com/top-ten/rationalism-in-politics.shtml
 
 

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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/8/2010 8:22:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

ad hominen doesnt fly on this side of the pond. He was right, and the liberals on this board prove it.


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And we of course thank you for your brave and noble service.


Two quotes of yours a few posts apart. Ironic huh.



If you think there is any connection between those two quotes, you need to learn what ad hominen is.


So your quote to Rex wasnt an attack then ?  You claim to dislike personal attacks but use them in many of your posts.




As I said, you need to learn what ad hominen is. It is NOT "personal attacks".


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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/9/2010 1:17:52 AM   
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As I said, you need to learn what ad hominen is. It is NOT "personal attacks".



Before making statements like the one above, you need to get a clue.

Main Entry: 1ad ho·mi·nem Pronunciation: \(ˈ)ad-ˈhä-mə-ˌnem, -nəm\Function: adjective Etymology: New Latin, literally, to the personDate: 15981 : appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect2 : marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made

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RE: Why are liberals so condescending? - 2/9/2010 9:13:06 AM   
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WIllbur, now more than ever, dont believe everything you think


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