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Talking Women - 2/11/2010 9:07:59 PM

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Last week there was some comments from several different guys about how much it annoys them that women want to talk, do talk, like talking to their men.

One guy has two women so they can talk to each other instead of him.

Another guy pretends to listen and be interested to oil the machine that takes clothing off. He talks the talk but it is not sincere.

Other men plain dont like it.

I am certain there are men who dig it, arent there? I am wondering is it really so bad? Are there some women who might be the exception, that do hold some sort of interest and talking with them is something you look forward to? Is it the content? Or simply a general eye rolling groan if you sense a woman wanting to chat?

Women do you find your man, potential man, ex-men will indulge and talk, or do they not even look at you when they speak and all that sort of thing. Do you find it satisfactory to speak with a man, if he opens up is it interesting to you or do you find yourself bored? Is it the content?

Women, are you left feeling unwelcome when you feel like opening up and talking? Men do you wish women would lose the desire to talk?

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 9:13:54 PM

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wow. HC, heavy question...

Ok, let's see...I have been with men who loved listening to me, loved my voice, loved how I spoke, the words I use, the strong opinions and the witty banter and hot flirtation we had.

Other men I have dated, not so much. They were usually the ones who could not keep up. Intimidation makes people not want to participate in conversations. One of the reasons I was not compatible with my ex is that he never wanted to talk, he hated talking. I got bored and sick of it eventually. No amount of hotness can make up for that.

Now, men and women all have varying communication levels and needs, so you don't need to be with a talker as much as you talk and vice versa. I also think that men and women like to talk about different things, and timing is everything. When a guy gets home from work, he may not want to hear all about how much you hate the bitch in the next cubicle.

Also, some men think that when women want to just vent, they need to try and fix things, when no, we just want some sympathy or to be heard.

The important thing is to be with someone who respects you enough to listen and hear you, and you him.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 9:14:18 PM

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I love to converse. Every word is analyzed.

More things I love to learn. More idiosyncrasies. More subtlety.

The knowledge and observation lead to a richer and deeper relationship.

My ears are open to your perception.

Except if we want to speak of anything sports related, or trash talking others, negative criticisms, or not being able to take a breath. Male, female, we all have our points in which we seem to drag.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 9:15:50 PM

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Thanks red, great input!

I thought it would be so funny (and sad) if no one posted a response here, haahaha.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 9:18:25 PM

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Talk about what, precisely?

People of any gender don't necessarily prefer non-talking in general. Some prefer non-talking about certain topics.

Personally, about the only type of talking I cut short is the sort that is unnecessarily argumentative...but, at the point that such a response would need to happen, it's usually an indication of other likely incompatibilities anyhow.

Otherwise, my partner is likely to have enough interest in mutually interesting topics that talking isn't a bad thing at all.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 9:24:21 PM

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Last week there was some comments from several different guys about how much it annoys them that women want to talk, do talk, like talking to their men.

I certainly missed those comments.

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ORIGINAL: heartcream
One guy has two women so they can talk to each other instead of him.

I can't help but wonder how long it will be before that guy finds he is no longer necessary because the women have everything they need without him.

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ORIGINAL: heartcream
Another guy pretends to listen and be interested to oil the machine that takes clothing off. He talks the talk but it is not sincere.

And the woman he is pretending to listen to will figure it out eventually and the clothes will become glued to her body.

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ORIGINAL: heartcream
Other men plain dont like it.

And how many of them are single or find themselves going from relationship to relationship. They are also probably dense enough to not understand why.

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ORIGINAL: heartcream
I am certain there are men who dig it, arent there? I am wondering is it really so bad? Are there some women who might be the exception, that do hold some sort of interest and talking with them is something you look forward to? Is it the content? Or simply a general eye rolling groan if you sense a woman wanting to chat?

I think we all have those moments when we aren't particularly interested in what our partner is saying. Mine is a mechanic and sometimes I really just don't really care what car drove him nuts all day. I listen politely, ask the right questions, but I couldn't tell you an hour later what he said. Likewise, he isn't interested in hearing everything about my day either. But that doesn't mean we don't talk or that he has no interest in anything I have to say.

I think the men who aren't interested are in the minority rather than the majority, they just make more noise about it.

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Women do you find your man, potential man, ex-men will indulge and talk, or do they not even look at you when they speak and all that sort of thing. Do you find it satisfactory to speak with a man, if he opens up is it interesting to you or do you find yourself bored? Is it the content?

Isn't that part of the reason we want someone we are compatible with? So we have someone that shares our interests and wants to talk to us? I mean really sex is great, but you have to be able to talk sometimes too.

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Women, are you left feeling unwelcome when you feel like opening up and talking? Men do you wish women would lose the desire to talk?

If that were the case, I wouldn't be sticking around for very long.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 9:28:38 PM

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I have heard that women need more talk time than men do.

I need some quiet time after a day at work Any woman with me needs to give me that.

But I love chat during breakfast, when 99% of the human race is still sleepy...

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 9:30:45 PM

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And the woman he is pretending to listen to will figure it out eventually and the clothes will become glued to her body.

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Isn't that part of the reason we want someone we are compatible with? So we have someone that shares our interests and wants to talk to us? I mean really sex is great, but you have to be able to talk sometimes too.

Nicely put Lafayette Lady!

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 9:55:23 PM

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OK, as a card-carrying man who doesn't enjoy talking...

Truth is, I do enjoy listening to Kim talk. Mostly because what she has to say is interesting, well thought out, and never, EVER whining, complaining, or self indulgent. Even when she talks about relationships, she is articulate and makes really sharp perceptive comments. I always feel more informed after I listen.

It is the need of some women to process every thought through their mouth without analysis or critical thought that annoys and tires me; or that need to complain, without any desire to fix things. Yes, I know women like to express, and hate it when men try to fix things. But it is still annoying, like a metric socket on a Imperial nut- GRRR WTF!

But here is the thing- maybe men aren't supposed to get women, anymore than you are supposed to get us. Maybe you should have a female friend to prattle on endlessly with, while we sit outside and say "yep", and "Hoo boy" over and over again (and feel mutually enlightened by the exchange).

Then again, maybe we can be a bit more accomodating, and a bit more patient. And maybe you can become a bit more stoic, and suck it up sometimes.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 10:02:25 PM

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I have heard that women need more talk time than men do.

I need some quiet time after a day at work Any woman with me needs to give me that.

But I love chat during breakfast, when 99% of the human race is still sleepy...

This is a really important aspect of it I would say...timing. For instance I am not a morning person and wouldnt choose that time to have important conversations. For me, if a man has some time when he does love to chat there is hope I would say. I think I could respect times when he is not into it and go do some other thing. Or simply not talk if he wasnt into it knowing that at another time he would be. Good to have compatible timing in these situations.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 10:13:31 PM

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**HC started a thread, and what a great topic!**

I have found that often women tend to talk and need and want to talk a lot more
than most men.
In cases like that, I have found it is great to have other women to talk to.

But, HC as I have gotten older, I don't alway like to talk as much as I did when I was younger.
I have encountered an epidemic of men that can't shut the fuck up.
I am glad I am a Dominant woman and I can gag the man, and make him just listen to me.
Sometimes I want them to listen, and they don't need to respond.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 10:18:19 PM

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Irony being, MzM, that when women are really really really angry, they cannot say a word.

I have no personal experience of this, however.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 10:18:58 PM

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It's not a woman thing to me. If you're intelligent, funny and interesting I listen. Regardless of sex or age. If your dumb, vapid and dull I don't.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 10:22:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

**HC started a thread, and what a great topic!**

Haha I have you to thak MzMia, I really do! I am glad you showed up so quickly if at all to witness my first serious thread I started!

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I have encountered an epidemic of men that can't shut the fuck up.

I know just what you mean. It is often content that counts and sometimes I have been with a man who sure as shootin is talking but he is snoring me to death with the content.

Sometimes when I go in the Mistress thread and read what some of those sub men say I really would like to have one of them for myself to treat me so well and adore me too! Plus so many of them are vewy hot! ssssssss

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 10:23:20 PM

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Irony being, MzM, that when women are really really really angry, they cannot say a word.

I have no personal experience of this, however.

Yeah, but I bet you know when they are able to speak again, AFTER being so angry they don't say a word,
you are going to HEAR it THEN, my brother!

Also, why the hell do women always want to always talk about feelings?
I used to be like that when I was younger, but I guess I am getting more cold blooded about chatting it up about "feelings" all the time.
Often when I have to listen to women {sometimes men}, go on and on about feelings, I want to jump out the window.
I can only imagine how men must feel.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 10:25:57 PM

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It's not a woman thing to me. If you're intelligent, funny and interesting I listen. Regardless of sex or age. If your dumb, vapid and dull I don't.

C'est vrai!

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 10:26:54 PM

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I am always willing to pretend to be listening to them.

Yes, I care too much I know.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 10:28:38 PM

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I am always willing to pretend to be listening to them.

Yes, I care too much I know.

I think you really do care, though.
Are you one of those men that wants to chat about "feelings" all the time?
If so, I am heading for the window, now.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 10:29:06 PM

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I am always willing to pretend to be listening to them.

Ahh that is sad in my eyes. I would rather not be pretended to.

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RE: Talking Women - 2/11/2010 10:31:02 PM

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Well, HC you are such a delight, I hope you will be starting
many more threads!

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