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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 2/12/2010 9:27:28 AM   
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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 2/12/2010 9:32:15 AM   
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I don't think I would enjoy a "session" where everything went according to a script.


A guy had been seeing the same women for a while. He showed up for a session one day and had alcohol on his breath. When they had first talked, she had told him that she would not tolerate that and he had agreed. His session that day was sitting in the corner staring at the wall. When it was over, he got up and left. Now I suppose it is possible, that he scripted that. But I doubt it.


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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 2/12/2010 10:11:45 AM   
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I wish I could spill the beans on the nature of Pro-Domme work, but I may wait for a bookdeal!


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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 2/13/2010 12:07:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Domin8tingUrDrmz

As I said above, the ladies who were pro that I spoke with wouldn't take on a client whose fantasy wasn't something the lady was interested in.

I haven't spoke with a lot of pros so I'm sure that isn't the full picture. But can I ask you, allthatjaz, while you were pro, would you have taken on a client whose preferred scene was something you did not enjoy at all? Let me use an example, if you hard-limited scat would you have taken on a client whose fantasy scene involved scat? Or would you have turned that client down in favor of another client who didn't need scat involved in his fantasy scene?

I'm asking purely out of curiousity only because you've made some points that I've not encountered amongst those pro's that I've spoken with.


When I worked in a cooperative dungeon I had to pay the rent regardless of getting clients or not. In that situation one is much more likely to take on clients with fetishes that are not on your list of favorites.
I always specialized to a degree but if someone wanted to crawl around naked on the floor for an hour with me ignoring him except to hit him with a broom every so often then I would cater for him. My fantasies are very specific and if I had only stuck to them alone then I would of had a very small business.
I had limits of course and plenty of them.
Think about connection. Even if a client liked the things I liked, we still had to find a connection for that to be enjoyable.
They pay you to put on an experience for them and part of that experience you give them is to pretend you enjoyed it even if you didn't.


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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 2/13/2010 12:10:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: specialk2611

I wish I could spill the beans on the nature of Pro-Domme work, but I may wait for a bookdeal!



Its already been done. Look out for a book called 'Concertina'


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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 2/13/2010 3:14:35 AM   
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Thanks for explaining. It's likely that since the few pro's I spoke with were independant and not part of a co-op like you describe is the reason I didn't hear more situations similar to yours.



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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 2/15/2010 10:29:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EagerSlave1

I am pretty new to all the BDSM terminology. I understand that Pro Dommes get paid to do what they do. That being said, I am sure many of them enjoy it alot and not just for the money. But I am asking, if the main motivation for participating in the BDSM scene is cash, is it REAL? Is it just an act that is turned off and on? I may sound like a complete dummy when it comes to this and that is why I am asking. I was told that lifestyle Dommes do this because it is a part of who they are and they like it, and Pro Dommes do it for the money. It seems like a Pro Domme would be more inclined to cater to the whim of her paying customers, where as a lifestyle Domme would be more interested in being served by her slaves. Is this a fair assessment?



Being Pro never stopped me from turning into a lifestyle Domme. Now, yes, iq uit, and I am happy, but it isn't like being Pro made me unhappy at all. I guess that at that time, as a Sadist coming out of the egg, so to speak, I got into pro because of the money and because I had a tutor who put me up to it. I don't regret it at all. I have now a loving slave pet who cares for me and for whom I care for deeply, had a slave who passed away and who loved me and devoted to me always in many ways. I don't think being Pro hurt my capacity for a relationship in any way...

Now, you might need to clarify the terms a bit. Some Pro Dommes are escorts and you may get sex, or sexual plays in various degrees or levels of sexual contact and intimacy that come from simple caressing your balls with the crop, her heels or glovd hand through your restraints and pants and others with full skin contact and fluids, from handjobs to blowjobs and the whole deal if you want it and pay for it.

Those, my dear, are ESCORTS who use DOMINATIOn but who are not Dommes, even if they are PROs in another way....

Pro DOMMES don't need to engage in sexual stimulation activities, but they can do it if they feel like it. The line might be blurry but you don't get any sexual release, just a touch and tease, a little denial and a lot of control, but you basically obtain a fantasy, a tailored experience designed for you. It's just a little massage on your ego and your needs.

A male maso friend I had, who happens to be a switch once said "Pro Dommes are like strippers, they tease, they touch, they show and they hide and you get a good dance and a good time" and as you can see there's a difference between an escort and that.....

Now, Lifestyle is any Domme who doesn't charge or goes for the cash. There are some who ask for tributes, or services, to make yourself useful, and I guess it's fair that if you take up her time, you compensate it by making yourself useful in your service. I myself hate the idea of a stable of slaves because I have my own pet now and certainly enjoy his service, and quite frankly, i don't really do poly as I can't get out of my head that three is a crowd and therefore, it only takes two to tango, and enjoy it...a lot.

I hope you find this useful...

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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 2/15/2010 10:32:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHelleonor


quote:

ORIGINAL: EagerSlave1

I am pretty new to all the BDSM terminology. I understand that Pro Dommes get paid to do what they do. That being said, I am sure many of them enjoy it alot and not just for the money. But I am asking, if the main motivation for participating in the BDSM scene is cash, is it REAL? Is it just an act that is turned off and on? I may sound like a complete dummy when it comes to this and that is why I am asking. I was told that lifestyle Dommes do this because it is a part of who they are and they like it, and Pro Dommes do it for the money. It seems like a Pro Domme would be more inclined to cater to the whim of her paying customers, where as a lifestyle Domme would be more interested in being served by her slaves. Is this a fair assessment?



Being Pro never stopped me from turning into a lifestyle Domme. Now, yes, iq uit, and I am happy, but it isn't like being Pro made me unhappy at all. I guess that at that time, as a Sadist coming out of the egg, so to speak, I got into pro because of the money and because I had a tutor who put me up to it. I don't regret it at all. I have now a loving slave pet who cares for me and for whom I care for deeply, had a slave who passed away and who loved me and devoted to me always in many ways. I don't think being Pro hurt my capacity for a relationship in any way...

Now, you might need to clarify the terms a bit. Some Pro Dommes are escorts and you may get sex, or sexual plays in various degrees or levels of sexual contact and intimacy that come from simple caressing your balls with the crop, her heels or glovd hand through your restraints and pants and others with full skin contact and fluids, from handjobs to blowjobs and the whole deal if you want it and pay for it.

Those, my dear, are ESCORTS who use DOMINATIOn but who are not Dommes, even if they are PROs in another way....

Pro DOMMES don't need to engage in sexual stimulation activities, but they can do it if they feel like it. The line might be blurry but you don't get any sexual release, just a touch and tease, a little denial and a lot of control, but you basically obtain a fantasy, a tailored experience designed for you. It's just a little massage on your ego and your needs.

A male maso friend I had, who happens to be a switch once said "Pro Dommes are like strippers, they tease, they touch, they show and they hide and you get a good dance and a good time" and as you can see there's a difference between an escort and that.....

Now, Lifestyle is any Domme who doesn't charge or goes for the cash. There are some who ask for tributes, or services, to make yourself useful, and I guess it's fair that if you take up her time, you compensate it by making yourself useful in your service. I myself hate the idea of a stable of slaves because I have my own pet now and certainly enjoy his service, and quite frankly, i don't really do poly as I can't get out of my head that three is a crowd and therefore, it only takes two to tango, and enjoy it...a lot.

Your assessment is somewhat right...yes a Pro Dmme is after all taking care of a paying customer, but they have preferences and areas of expertise..and Lifestyle Dommes don't want to pelase the subs, the subs have to please them, so it's their show and they are in control, but they also know how tot ake care of the subs because they feel a connection Pro don't have really, and feel the responsability of helping that individual to be happy and develop as a betetr human being through BDSM play. But it all mixes and intertwines in some cases.

I hope you find this useful...


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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 2/16/2010 4:57:35 AM   
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Yes - we can be both.
We make the choice whether we choose to have it remain professional or it we choose to make it personal.
My "Saturday Boy" started out pro and is now personal.

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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 3/23/2010 6:48:24 PM   
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sure you can really be a pro domme and lifestyle I am a lifestyler  but there was a time I needed extra income and got it as a pro. After I bought what I wanted I stoped but I always remained a lifestyle Domme

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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 3/24/2010 4:21:33 PM   
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what an odd question. Has anyone ever asked if a pro school teacher could possibly enjoy teaching if they do it for money?

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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 3/25/2010 3:09:04 AM   
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The teacher analogy is not good. Pro domme at work does not really dominate but serves a client fantasies trying as hard as they can to to do whatever the client wants (not quite but they expand their skills as far as they can). It is not necessary for a pro to enjoy what they are doing. I knew a pro who hated her job. We may ask if female escort can possibly be a lover for somebody?

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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 3/26/2010 5:48:09 AM   
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If you like something and you do it well enough to turn it into something that gives you an income, does that mean that then you're less real? Like say for example you're a hobby musician and you record a song, a lot of people buy that song, so if you're playing a song a home, it isn't "real" anymore? If you're painting for fun and get discovered, same thing...

I don't get the whole hang-up about it.

Somebody said because it is fulfilling the fantasies of a client, it's not real or a Domme can't enjoy it, in a private relationship if you don't fulfill at least some of your sub's or slave's fantasies, you might soon be on your own, it's always a give and take. I would actually go even further and say pro Dommes, despite the draw backs and the unpleasantness that often occurs, love it so much that they take that in their stride. And before somebody goes on about "Just for the money" - forget the myth about getting rich quick, look at the costs of fetish outfits and tools, as a pro you have to have a fetish wardrobe and your clients will expect an array of tools...

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RE: Can a Pro Domme ever really be a lifestyle Domme? - 3/26/2010 7:48:59 AM   
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Yes, quite a lot of them are both.

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