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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 11:17:46 AM   
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Low self-esteem itself is a form of mutilation ... mutilation of the spirit.

But mutilation of the spirit is actually a strengthening, spiritual "trial-by-fire" rite of passage, like the native american fire dance, from which the inner soul may ascend, as a phoenix, to higher energy-ground. Therefore, it's a beautiful positive thing.


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See how easy it is to make something appear to be anything you want if you just weave it in webs of metaphysical nonsense?


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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 11:20:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BLoved

Low self-esteem itself is a form of mutilation ... mutilation of the spirit.

But mutilation of the spirit is actually a strengthening, spiritual "trial-by-fire" rite of passage, like the native american fire dance, from which the inner soul may ascend, as a phoenix, to higher energy-ground. Therefore, it's a beautiful positive thing.


...


See how easy it is to make something appear to be anything you want if you just weave it in webs of metaphysical nonsense?



I like your airy fairy-ness much more than I liked his.. it resonates more deeply with the hippy dippy granola eating liberal that I am


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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 11:21:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BLoved

Low self-esteem itself is a form of mutilation ... mutilation of the spirit.

But mutilation of the spirit is actually a strengthening, spiritual "trial-by-fire" rite of passage, like the native american fire dance, from which the inner soul may ascend, as a phoenix, to higher energy-ground. Therefore, it's a beautiful positive thing.


...


See how easy it is to make something appear to be anything you want if you just weave it in webs of metaphysical nonsense?



Heh. Yes - and this is part of the "halo effect". If you already hold someone in high regard, you'll interpret things positively, with florrid metaphysical prose. If you already hold them in low regard, you'll interpret things negatively, with pop-psych condemnation. Empathy self-reinforces towards homeostasis, which is why first impressions, being pretty, and having money and power are so damned important.

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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 11:27:28 AM   
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If you already hold them in low regard, you'll interpret things negatively, with pop-psych condemnation. Empathy self-reinforces towards homeostasis, which is why first impressions, being pretty, and having money and power are so damned important.


I would disagree a little. If I write an academic journal article that is filled with verifiable and substantiated data, then even if someone disagrees with it on the grounds that they think I am a complete douche, they will have to refrain from attacking me personally and stay focused on my ideas.. on the other hand, if all my ideas are based upon personal opinion without any sort of  substantiation, well I am a sitting target.

We are more predisposed to being kinder to those we like, but even people who like each other disagree


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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 11:46:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		In regards to PTSD, there are many of the US troops that suffer or will suffer from this. Forever changed by the experience. How it effects them will vary from person to person. For some it will be managable for some an on going nightmare, with dysfuntional behaviors that will last a life time. Some mental illness or even dysfunctional behaviors are easy to manage, will other ones are more extreme.

I think it's best to address these kinds of issues on the individual level, according as needed. Just upon the basis if somebody has either a Mental illness or even a Dysfunctional Behavior issue, is not enough information to formulate an objective universal opinion.

This is not a one shoe size fits all issue or concept being dealt with. When it comes to the fringes or extremes of mental illness or behavior patterns, it's pretty obvious that specific issue that person has needs to be called into question by other people who they interact with.

Regarding the OP concerning people with none violent mental illness, a universal answer can not be achieved. No matter how hard to try, you find reality screwing with any universal truth you attempt to make. There are cases where BDSM has made things worse, There are cases where BDSM has helped and cases where BDSM has little to no impact whatsoever. Not all mental illnesses are the same. The root causes of mental illness varies. There are certain differences in the way people are able to process things. The brain can be either highly adaptive or very rigid in regards to this.

We are just starting to enter into a time period with a lot more knowledge starting to come out from research in this area. For the moment, we are in many regards still in the DARK Ages of true knowledge regarding the mind and the brain. Mind you, we have been making many slow advances along the way. Theories have come and gone, perspectives have changed. things have been in a state of Flux.

While I hope this does not deviat from the topic much, I would like to share a website that is actually rather thought provoking and amazing in a number of fields or areas. It's called TED.com (Technology Entertainment & Design). The tag line for this site is "Ideas Worth Spreading". I'm bringing this up because of some of the interesting breakthroughs regarding how the mind actually works is covered. However, TED.com is about far more. In many ways TED.com does provoke thought. This is truely an amazing website to check out, and surf around in for some time.

www.ted.com

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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 11:47:21 AM   
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We are more predisposed to being kinder to those we like, but even people who like each other disagree


Ah, see, I'm not talking about factual agreement; I'm talking about framing. People that we like we can disagree with, but we'll still frame the disagreement positively, and use the disagreement to reinforce the idea that we should like them. People that we don't like can agree with us, but we'll still frame their agreement negatively, and find reasons to reinforce the idea that they're beneath us.

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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 12:10:13 PM   
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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 12:14:33 PM   
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Regarding the OP concerning people with none violent mental illness, a universal answer can not be achieved. No matter how hard to try, you find reality screwing with any universal truth you attempt to make. There are cases where BDSM has made things worse, There are cases where BDSM has helped and cases where BDSM has little to no impact whatsoever. Not all mental illnesses are the same. The root causes of mental illness varies. There are certain differences in the way people are able to process things. The brain can be either highly adaptive or very rigid in regards to this.


This deserves highlighting yet again


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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 12:16:28 PM   
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Crazy people have no gag reflex. Everyone knows that.


They would have to not have one just to put up with the shit smells that domi so eloquently described


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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 12:17:21 PM   
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Crazy people have no gag reflex. Everyone knows that.


Then why are so many covered in puke? Is it their own?


What about banging'the crazies? I don't think they care that much about safe words and you can throw all that bullshit about SSC out the window...What the Hell, when you are done and bored, you can toss out her crazy ass as well. I live in the garden place in my building. The effect would be negligible. Sometimes I wish I lived in a high rise. Is that what people are talking about when they refer to "impact play?"

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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 12:26:06 PM   
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Sometimes I wish I lived in a high rise.


I live in a high rise... no crazy ass dom better come over here barking orders at me (as in scooby style barking)


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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 12:31:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I live on the second floor. The impact is survivable. It is a busy street though, with a fire house and quite a few bars. She would probably get run over.

You could call it roll play I suppose.


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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 12:33:04 PM   
juliaoceania


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I live on the second floor. The impact is survivable. It is a busy street though, with a fire house and quite a few bars. She would probably get run over.

You could call it roll play I suppose.


Jeff


If she slid along behind the car once it hit her, could she be called a drag queen?


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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 12:38:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Once again, I have killed a meaningful thread. But what about fucking with a schizo? All of these tasty personalities locked up in one person. would it make me gay if I nailed one of her male personas?

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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 12:41:59 PM   
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Once again, I have killed a meaningful thread. But what about fucking with a schizo? All of these tasty personalities locked up in one person. would it make me gay if I nailed one of her male personas?


Well to be honest, I had thought about reminding you that this thread isn't about "crazies".... someone somewhat over anxious about getting into an elevator or depressed because they are disabled and can't work anymore... well that ain't exactly the same kettle of fish as the people who live in the park across the street from me that use public restrooms like other people use day spas...

But we can always have a conversation about your Cybil fetish...


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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 12:48:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		It was getting tiresome splitting hairs and personalities over some minor psychological faux pas. It needed to be spiced up.

Everyone is a little wacko. It's just degrees and within those varying degrees lies what people find to be tolerable or not.

Is it wrong to engage into some serious "placebo play?" Or is this considered within the community to be rather frowned upon?

I think "placebo play" could be kind of hot in a scientificy kind of way.

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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 1:06:46 PM   
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I think "placebo play" could be kind of hot in a scientificy kind of way.


Well they are finding that antidepressants don't antidepress people anymore than sugar pills... so why not a little spankpoo therapy to lift a gal's spirits?

Edited to add, debating Bob is something I shouldn't do anyways....

It could become my own little sadistic sort of nonconscensual kink


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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 1:12:17 PM   
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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 1:14:35 PM   
juliaoceania


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Bob is a dinosaur....Jesus once walked with Bob.


At least he didn't walk on him


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RE: Mental Health and the lifestyle - 2/21/2010 1:17:50 PM   
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Bob is a dinosaur....Jesus once walked with Bob.


At least he didn't walk on him



And they were both into outdoor bondage.

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