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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/5/2010 9:24:43 PM   
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So I have a son with Aspergers who is 11. Next year he will be starting middle school. He does extremely well in school. He has the sharp mind typical of the Aspie. He is senstive and sweet and funny.

Now the challenges. Someone with an Aspie child put it into perfect words. He said,"Its like you are living your life and theirs". This is so true. He does what hes told, but he gets sidetracked easily and he doesnt do anything of his own accord. He needs constant prodding and reminders to stay on track when getting ready for school. He does have a morning checklist but he wont look t it unless hes reminded. He has calenders but will only look at them when prompted.

I am concerned with how he will lead an independent life? It would work if he could learn to make his own schedulers and check appointments and such. At this point hes not capable.

What advice can other Aspies or parents of Aspies give me to move these types of training and skillbuilding along? At ths point he cant do anything without being told step by step.

Except for homework. He always does his homework.


The Almighty Checklist. I use an index of checklists myself.

I don't want to play the maudlin (is that the right word?) card but here it goes:

I was late in the game when it came to dealing with my Asperger's Syndrome. Sure I had some training and therapy to integrate me into the mainstream as best as possible but it was not tailored towards the syndrome. Now I know.

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Now aside from writing on the back of his hand "Check Checklist []" getting him to stay consistent with tasks is going to be a long and arduous process...

unless that process is somehow amalgamated with one of his current obsessions.

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For example:

I rather enjoy frogs. I hear anything about frogs and I disengage whatever I am doing and I am there at attention. One of my notebooks of yesteryears had all sorts of frog stickers and doodles on it.

SO...

I actively WANT to look at my checklist. Often. At times I would look at the checklist just to see the frogs... and the frogs just to see the checklist/schedule/whatever method of remembering things.

It worked for me.

Have you tried placing a red dot on the back of his hand every time he forgets something from the checklist?

Well,

sleep time is upon me soon.

Good Luck Lushy!


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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/5/2010 9:27:57 PM   
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NiteOwl, it's possible to disagree and still be civil.  "Being a self-righteous dick" is not one of the clinical signs of ADHD.  Luscious isn't a dope, and isn't ignorant.  Does she know everything?  No.  Nobody does.  Not her, not me... and not even you.

Do you want to have a conversation, or do you want to have everyone who reads this thread think you are an asshole?  Seriously. It's Friday night and you're on the computer.  Wouldn't you rather make a new friend than alienate even more people?


LOL
I notice that you are on the computer on a Friday night as well.

Besides, I didn't say she was ignorant or dope.
As for the rest, I don't care. It was too hard to keep track of everything growing up, so something had to fall by the wayside, unfortunaly, that ended up being social things. It was hard, I realize now, because, however well intentioned, my parents didn't see what I have been trying to say.
That didn't make them ignorant or dopes. It just means that they did the best that they knew to do with the information at hand, which I am sure that Lucious is doing as well. Attacking me, rather than discussing the idea was being just as big of an asshole and jerk as you are saying that I am being.


redmageredmageredmageredmageredmage... also, niteowl. be quiet.

BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND. has the op considered joining a mom's group? could be a good way to pick up new ideas or advice from the mom's of other kids with asperger's. if not local, online.

having people who understand exactly what you're going through could take some of the load off you, not to mention getting to talk to moms with older kids. ideally you could meet a few whose kids are already graduated and out of the house: they could throw you hints as to how to get your kiddo through school and into college without hitting so many bumps in the road.


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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/5/2010 10:30:56 PM   
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BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND. has the op considered joining a mom's group? could be a good way to pick up new ideas or advice from the mom's of other kids with asperger's. if not local, online.

having people who understand exactly what you're going through could take some of the load off you, not to mention getting to talk to moms with older kids. ideally you could meet a few whose kids are already graduated and out of the house: they could throw you hints as to how to get your kiddo through school and into college without hitting so many bumps in the road.



Now THAT is a good idea. Not only that, the older children with asperger's would more than likely be willing to work with the OP's son and help him with things that worked for them.

Likewise to what pyroaquatic said about finding one of the things that he really likes (like the frogs). That was why I suggested working with his teachers and making it an "assignment" since he seems to like school.

Just a note about kids with Attention Deficit....you know how hard it is to have a conversation in a noisy nightclub with the music blaring and the rest of the noise? That is what it is like inside the head of a child with attention deficit. That's the reason it becomes hard for them to focus. I am by no means an expert on asperger's, but to my knowledge, that is NOT something that they have to deal with. It is more a matter of things not being able to make it out of their head into action. Somewhere inside the OP's son's head is all the information, it just can't get through to where it causes the action. For those of us who aren't afflicted with this, we can only try to imagine how difficult and frustrating it must be.

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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/5/2010 10:38:05 PM   
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've been sitting here reading the thread, filtering out the relevant material and sniping.
(no ranting here, rambling maybe)

As a parent of a teen Aspie, I can sympathize and empathize with what Lushy is going through. I will not deny the she is about to enter hell. Middle schoolers can be mean little critters who just arent very accepting in many ways. It was his roughest years in 6th and 7th grades.  Thankfully in his case, one of his AS quirks is being rather oblivious to what is teasing playfully and what is negative and harsh. So he doesn't get too stressed on some of it. However, it doesnt all go unnoticed.

Academically, it sounds like some of the larger hurdles may take care of themselves because he does his homework. One of our hurdles with his teachers was the "picking your battles". Where repetition may be the key to memory in many neurotypical people, it does not in fact apply to all Aspies. We have learned with him, and other children our family interacts with, often times he in fact does hear and comprehend on the first go around. But because he doesnt immediately act on it, we used to assume he doesn't. And so would begin the 'nagging'. constant reminders etc.  Often times it was as I gleaned from NiteOwls post, because he didnt feel it was relevant to him, he didnt feel a need to act.  We first observed it visiting his class. And so I love to use this as an example. He can not be doing only one thing at a time except sleep.
In class one day the teacher gave the class instructions, and the whole class would do it, except him. However if she told him directly, he'd do it. He doesnt do the 'group thinking' well.  This same day the teacher was reading aloud to the class, he was around the corner of the wall in her craft room in his own little world (so we all thought) but when she asked him to comment, answer a question etc, he was able to answer her without missing a beat.
So I have to agree from experience with the theory of playing to their strengths, and for us its picking the battles. Be it parents, other relatives or instructors, makes no difference with him. If we can find a way to make it relevant to him, either by tying in a strong interest he has, or by the carrot on the string, or just not sweating the small stuff; all of it is a daily adventure, for us and the teachers.
There was a great video on YouTube by a young man at University in England who is Aspie, of his view on the world.  He described it as social dyslexia. Around here, we refer to it as PC versus Mac. Same information, just being processed in a different format.
Pyroaquatic made an excellent point/example about making things relevant. Around here is the obsession of the month club. Always on some level of creative arts so its not so difficult to keep up with him.  And we have a redirect phrase we use when he starts off topic or begins to get overly distracted. He calls them "squirrel moments". If you have seen the movie "Up" it might make more sense. The "oh look! A squirrel".  Now a freshman in highschool, he catches himself doing it and will joke. He has had to explain the comment to a few teachers though.

Ok, I've rambled. Sorry about that. It was suggested to find a parent support system for Aspie parents. I am not sure where you are Lushy, but I know there are numerous groups out there. Ours here is more geared for overall autistic spectrum, versus aspie specific. and though the spectrum may be the umbrella, they certainly are not all the same condition (i hate the term disease, as it infers that it needs curing) and require very individualized gameplans.
If it helps, yes our son has started to get it together on his own. Still needs some prompts and reminders. In those ways he is a few years socially behind his peers, but in other areas he is leaps and bounds beyond them. He has considerable medical issues on top of the AS so keeping on schedule and remembering things like taking his meds correctly takes the issue to a different level of survival as an adult.
You will probably here the gambit of opinions on the issue. They may range from 'he's broken and must be fixed', 'its just bad parenting' (that one is my nightmare) to the 'the world needs to change to suit him'. After working on this for the past 7 years, i can honestly say we just try to do what works. No two Aspies seem to work on the same formula. Go with your gut, but don't get tunnel vision. Get in touch with people who have it. Ask them what tools worked for them if they were diagnosed young. Or what works as an adult. Talk to teens and kids if you can. They can be an invaluable resource. As lame as this may sound, there are a lot of videos on youtube of people who have it. positive and negative. Our son likes to find them and tell us how he feels he is different or similar.
If you ever feel a need to vent, feel free to drop me a mail. I know in the early years I wish I had talked to more parents.

Best wishes on it and we will keep good thoughts for you and your son.

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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/5/2010 10:40:48 PM   
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redmageredmageredmageredmageredmage... also, niteowl. be quiet.

BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND. has the op considered joining a mom's group? could be a good way to pick up new ideas or advice from the mom's of other kids with asperger's. if not local, online.


I see now. It's that I'm not a mom.

Oh, and pillow.... HELL NO!

Dad's are just as important to kids as mom's are! So instead of getting so catty, withdraw the claws, get over what issues you have with men, and accept what they have to say.



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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/5/2010 11:38:41 PM   
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course dad's are important in ANY child's life. however, as a mom, i've seen a lot of dad's who are much more hands off and leave the rearing to the mother. esPECially if there are disabilities and if there is a divorce.

not by any means a blanket statement.

(as a mom, though, and carrying my child next to my heart for 9 month in utero and 2 yrs while breastfeeding, i tend to think us mom's KNOW our children best, but i admit to being very biased)

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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/6/2010 12:43:33 AM   
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Let's keep the discussion to Aspergers please.  If you would like to talk about something else, feel free to start your own thread.

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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/6/2010 5:14:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

So I have a son with Aspergers who is 11. Next year he will be starting middle school. He does extremely well in school. He has the sharp mind typical of the Aspie. He is senstive and sweet and funny.

Now the challenges. Someone with an Aspie child put it into perfect words. He said,"Its like you are living your life and theirs". This is so true. He does what hes told, but he gets sidetracked easily and he doesnt do anything of his own accord. He needs constant prodding and reminders to stay on track when getting ready for school. He does have a morning checklist but he wont look t it unless hes reminded. He has calenders but will only look at them when prompted.

I am concerned with how he will lead an independent life? It would work if he could learn to make his own schedulers and check appointments and such. At this point hes not capable.

What advice can other Aspies or parents of Aspies give me to move these types of training and skillbuilding along? At ths point he cant do anything without being told step by step.

Except for homework. He always does his homework.


The Almighty Checklist. I use an index of checklists myself.

I don't want to play the maudlin (is that the right word?) card but here it goes:

I was late in the game when it came to dealing with my Asperger's Syndrome. Sure I had some training and therapy to integrate me into the mainstream as best as possible but it was not tailored towards the syndrome. Now I know.

----

Now aside from writing on the back of his hand "Check Checklist []" getting him to stay consistent with tasks is going to be a long and arduous process...

unless that process is somehow amalgamated with one of his current obsessions.

----
For example:

I rather enjoy frogs. I hear anything about frogs and I disengage whatever I am doing and I am there at attention. One of my notebooks of yesteryears had all sorts of frog stickers and doodles on it.

SO...

I actively WANT to look at my checklist. Often. At times I would look at the checklist just to see the frogs... and the frogs just to see the checklist/schedule/whatever method of remembering things.

It worked for me.

Have you tried placing a red dot on the back of his hand every time he forgets something from the checklist?

Well,

sleep time is upon me soon.

Good Luck Lushy!



Theres the sweetie I was waiting for! Hi Pyro!

Great suggestions!


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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/6/2010 6:02:13 AM   
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Thank you everyone for your suggestions and for those who went to bat for me. Although not necessary, I thank you. I had left as to not engage in the derailment. I guess I didnt see the insults.

It was not the suggestions I was opposed to. It was the superiority and the making this thread about ADHD as Aspergers is different with a different diagnosis and I need suggestions about Aspergers. After all, what other people suggested are suggestions that I can pick and choose from to see what works.



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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/6/2010 6:25:49 AM   
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If he does what he's told and does his homework, you are already so far ahead of the game, compared to what I was dealing with when my son was 11.

Here's the thing, persons with Asperger's, of at least modern intelligence, are generally more well equipped to deal with society than other people, in the right situations. Like, working as IT guys, for instance, where not really "getting" that you are working for rude bastards, just focusing on the task at hand, and going on your way are all pluses! 

In a way, it's like any other "learning disability" in that it just takes them a bit longer to learn something than it does other people. For some people, it's math and reading and all that; for Asperger's it's social cues and self motivation.

From everything that I have read, since his diagnosis, my parents could have been diagnosed too, and so could have I. Except, you know, back then, people were not labels, so long as they functioned well enough to just be people. Now, my dad has not done the best at keeping himself out of debt and all, but, he managed to marry the right sort of wife who is very good at keeping herself out of debt, and he's always worked, up until he was 65 and a bit beyond. He says inappropriate things, he runs on with stories. It used to seem weird to people, but, he was charming and intelligent, so they didn't mind, and now he sounds like every other old man.

My Mom focuses a lot on television and will run on about that. Drives people crazy. She goes nutsy about checking her bank accounts. Drives people crazy. However, she also has a very good sense of her finances as a result and so it is that particularly obsessive-compulsive Aspergery tendency that ensures her survival and that of her husband.

Me, I didn't do so well as them, but, here I am, 41 and still alive. I learned to actually write and pay attention to my own checklists from time to time as it saves a lot of time and frustration. And, here is where we get to the advice.

Now, "constant prompting and reminders" have to go!  If you have the sort of school where they are helpful, go and talk to his principal and teachers, and explain to them that you are trying to teach him to use his checklist without being reminded,  then sit him down and tell him  that it is his responsibility to remember  to do them. Or, if that scares you too much, start with the ones for the weekend, or set him certain tasks that lead up to a certain reward that he really wants, give him the list of what needs to be done to earn the reward  - and you can put "following morning checklist without supervision three times or more" as one of the tasks to accomplish - and totally leave it up to him to have to pay attention, keep track of the list, and earn the reward.  Just make sure that if he does it, he gets the reward. Or, some facsimile thereof. As in, if his reward is wanting to go to a concert, and he doesn't get it done on time, but, he does get it done, then he'll have learned something about how to be prompt -then it's like, well, the concert was $25, and that's out the window, but, you can choose to go to pizza with your friends, or get a new toy of some sort, or anything else that costs the same. 

Because that's the only way he's going to learn to do things for himself, is by the adults forcing it upon him, in some manner. At 11 years old, he is definitely old enough. And, if he fails to follow his checklist and ends up going to school smelling funny or being dressed oddly, or whatever happens, it will not kill him. It might embarrass him, but, embarrassment, earned, is a tool for learning how to get along in society. You want him to learn to do it, stop doing it for him!



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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/6/2010 6:37:26 AM   
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Hello Folks!  I'm just adding my $0.02.  When I first saw this book title, I laughed, lots.  Then I read it, and it made sense, and dropped the $15 on it immediately.  It's "All Cats Have Asperger's Syndrome".  It's a good read, and I can't fault the subject matter, both illustration-wise and other. :)  I'm honestly not sure if I have it.  I don't think so, though I know I display many of the characteristics.  But, it's a good book, and can give (especially, I think) a youngster a 'you aren't alone' feeling.  

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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/6/2010 10:10:21 AM   
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Lushy, we use the checklist/calendar thing with my brother. His various Dr. appointments go on the calendar, then I tape an itinerary of sorts with what must happen on the day of that particular appointment, from showering and shaving, until what time we will get home, and what his reward for appropriate only behavior will be. At the end I add a reminder that any inappropriate behavior will not be rewarded. It's all put in language he understands, even if other normal adults might not understand, in the way it's written.

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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/6/2010 12:52:48 PM   
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Thank you everyone for your suggestions and for those who went to bat for me. Although not necessary, I thank you. I had left as to not engage in the derailment. I guess I didnt see the insults.


hon, as long as you're reading and picking up those little suggestions here and there. ehunno if you can edit op's, but maybe you can make a note that you're wanting asperger's specific advice? iiii dunno.

and i got bored/curious and went to the website my therapy sessions are held. i don't know about *all* facilities, but the one i go to, which is also a teaching school, actually has a support group for parents of kids with specific disabilities, and another for the kids themselves- facilitated by adults, 'course. plushiecat brought up the "hey, i'm not alone" thing, which could be great for your kiddo.  :3

hopefully there's a place in your area where you can talk to other moms, and if there's not, maybe you could talk to your son's doctor for advice then start your own. it could be a godsend for parents who aren't as on the ball as you are, and vice versa.


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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/6/2010 1:28:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19
Thank you everyone for your suggestions and for those who went to bat for me. Although not necessary, I thank you. I had left as to not engage in the derailment. I guess I didnt see the insults.


hon, as long as you're reading and picking up those little suggestions here and there. ehunno if you can edit op's, but maybe you can make a note that you're wanting asperger's specific advice? iiii dunno.

and i got bored/curious and went to the website my therapy sessions are held. i don't know about *all* facilities, but the one i go to, which is also a teaching school, actually has a support group for parents of kids with specific disabilities, and another for the kids themselves- facilitated by adults, 'course. plushiecat brought up the "hey, i'm not alone" thing, which could be great for your kiddo.  :3

hopefully there's a place in your area where you can talk to other moms, and if there's not, maybe you could talk to your son's doctor for advice then start your own. it could be a godsend for parents who aren't as on the ball as you are, and vice versa.



I think my OP is clear as to what I seek. Any advice given in a positive way would be wonderful. I dont really seek a derailment on other disabilities but Im going to glean all advice that is helpful and that logically applies.

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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/6/2010 4:21:45 PM   
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I think my OP is clear as to what I seek. Any advice given in a positive way would be wonderful. I dont really seek a derailment on other disabilities but Im going to glean all advice that is helpful and that logically applies.


What you need to remember is that while other learning disabilities may present differently, many of them, the "process" for overcoming certain things is all the same. They *all* take longer to master certain things. They *all* need to learn to do it on their own. The mind of a child with Asperger's, ADD, or whatever have "dissconnects" that are different, but with the question you are asking about "prompting and reminders," the solution is the same.

artistofdesire is right on the mark about you providing him the lists and backing off, although I would go from total prompting and reminding to here's the list, now follow it in one feel swoop, it's going to cause overload. Start small and gradually increase it as each section is mastered.

We naturally want to protect our children as much as possible. However, "natural consequences" are good teachers, as artisofdesire pointed out. Obviously, if you are going to church on Sunday or a dressy family event, you aren't going to let your son go smelling funny or poorly dressed. But if he goes to school that way, he will learn not to eventually. If you call him to dinner and he doesn't pay attention and doesn't come after a second "notice," he won't starve one night without dinner or eating food that is cold.

The more you pull back from doing for him, the more he will have to do it himself. There will be lots of mistakes along the way, but isn't that how we all learned things?

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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/6/2010 5:37:39 PM   
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Hello Folks!  I'm just adding my $0.02.  When I first saw this book title, I laughed, lots.  Then I read it, and it made sense, and dropped the $15 on it immediately.  It's "All Cats Have Asperger's Syndrome".  It's a good read, and I can't fault the subject matter, both illustration-wise and other. :)  I'm honestly not sure if I have it.  I don't think so, though I know I display many of the characteristics.  But, it's a good book, and can give (especially, I think) a youngster a 'you aren't alone' feeling.  


Yay !!! I got that too, a very fine book, with loads of lovely kitties in it as well as wise words. I tried to recommend it on an Asperger's forum I visit from time to time only to be told cats don't have Aspergers.

Other books a good friend got me just after my diagnosis include ;

Women from Another Planet by Jean Kearns Miller, tells life as it is with aspergers, the author is an  adult Aspie

And ;

The Jumbled Jigsaw- An insider's Approach to the treatment of Autistic Spectrum 'fruit Salads' by Donna Williams.

I have to confess I have not read either of these books fully, as I have a strange way of reading, which is best described as picking at articles or areas of immediate interest for the extreme narrow beam focus treatment, where I research beyond until I understand. To note though not everyone can write well and words because they are in a book that is published, that is not to say everyone can read and understand what is being said by those words. I have always found I learn more from pictures than words and a book with nothing but words if not written well, is of no interest to me, I cannot summon the energy to read no matter how I try, or vary my  approach  to the task, which plays hell with my college studies, and other things, forums included, (so my aplogies to anyone I may have annoyed, upset, offended etc)

But Asperger's syndrome, why must it be a disease that requires treatment, why can it not just be people who think differently, would it not be better for all concerned to be aware of the differences in thinking amongst us and there utilise abilities and skills where necessary. Many people, adults who have been diagnosed with Aspergers in later life have learned to use their natural ability and skill  to good effect and without the help that apparently is now available for the younglings and you may also find those that have done so, tend to be at the top of their field of expertise, check the famous faces known to have Aspergers or thought to have had due to typical displayed characteristics.

I see my dx as a relief, an explanation, and when I can learn to use it in a useful way, perhaps profitable even, though I don't care for nor seek wealth, but profitable in that what I do fulfills me and keeps me mentally stimulated : an enhancement. It is not an illness to be treated, but for me to understand and use wisely.


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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/6/2010 7:59:54 PM   
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I see my dx as a relief, an explanation, and when I can learn to use it in a useful way, perhaps profitable even, though I don't care for nor seek wealth, but profitable in that what I do fulfills me and keeps me mentally stimulated : an enhancement. It is not an illness to be treated, but for me to understand and use wisely.



I don't think any of the development challenges are medically considered "diseases." Yes, the mind of someone with Asperger's works different, just like someone with ADD, OCD, dyslexia, etc. The trick for the person who has that mind and the people around them is to find what works to make the connections to function. It is different for each person, but when those "lights" go on, it is usually a pretty great thing and those people are very often extremely intelligent and logical. It is more a matter of the "normals" not really being able to "think outside the box" and appreciate it.

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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/7/2010 7:42:59 AM   
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Reading in my usual websites of interest, those being shall we say alternative, ( it comes with alternative thinking), I came across an article on the drug treatment for Autism, the drug Celaxa ( Citalopram) does not work, for it does not prevent repetitive behavioural patterns in Autistic children. I can personally vouch for this, because I take Citalopram and it does not stop my patterns of behaviour ;

Anyway, for your perusal ;

http://www.wddty.com/major-autism-drug-doesn-t-work-parents-told.html

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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/7/2010 9:57:50 AM   
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There is a book called Freaks, Geeks and Aspergers Syndrome. It was written by a 13 year old boy. Shows just how phemomenal they can be that it was written by a 13 year old.

Although it made me glassy eyed in spots. Kinda like many Aspie ramblings. But none the less, a great book.

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RE: Another Asperger Syndrome Thread - 3/7/2010 11:45:07 AM   
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So I have a son with Aspergers who is 11. Next year he will be starting middle school. He does extremely well in school. He has the sharp mind typical of the Aspie. He is senstive and sweet and funny.

Now the challenges. Someone with an Aspie child put it into perfect words. He said,"Its like you are living your life and theirs". This is so true. He does what hes told, but he gets sidetracked easily and he doesnt do anything of his own accord. He needs constant prodding and reminders to stay on track when getting ready for school. He does have a morning checklist but he wont look t it unless hes reminded. He has calenders but will only look at them when prompted.

I am concerned with how he will lead an independent life? It would work if he could learn to make his own schedulers and check appointments and such. At this point hes not capable.

What advice can other Aspies or parents of Aspies give me to move these types of training and skillbuilding along? At ths point he cant do anything without being told step by step.

Except for homework. He always does his homework.


Ah, going back to the OP, I personally can relate to much of what you have said there, lists, calenders, filofaxes, checklists, all that to aid, but too easily forgotten about and with that anything I have had to remember, those that know me know I forget too easily, and I fear sometimes it looks like I am not bothered, which is totally wrong, it is I just don't remember things unless it is say the engine serial number of my first car, or valve clearances of all the stationary engines I have worked with, I remember trivia  and technical information with ease, but not what I should, the day to days of life.

Living alone, I manage now and enjoy it, though my past was always the pursuit of institutions, the big family situation as I positively feared living with myself and was loathe to leave home, the armed forces, or my ex despite how bad it got.

But, I have got to the age of 42 and that bar last year, without a diagnosis for my madness as has many others diagnosed and undiagnosed, your son will get through, especially now as there is early diagnosis, recognition and help available.

Laughing here at the fact your son always remembers homework, well, of course he would remember for it is a mental challenge, basically what many aspies thrive at and actively enjoy.


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