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slvemike4u -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/19/2010 2:33:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Oh no you don't. You branded the Tea Party "racists" because you claim they're all white.You wrote that that alone was enough to prove racism.

Also, its a lie that there are no people of color among them, Firm established that (though you ignored it). And the very people who handed you your race-baiting talking points, the New York Times and MSNBC are in fact exactly what you erroneously claim that the Tea Party is... lily white. And I'm not going to say racists because unlike what you try to claim (or were trying to claim), its not a crime to be white nor is a person or any group of people necessarily racist because of the color of their skin.


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Who's trying to change the rules of the game, mike?


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

The only "conclusion" I have definitely,absolutly reached is that these events are not a true representation of Americans.They are just too monochromatic to be so....when you are as purely white as Ivory soap.....something is amiss.
That sort of "sameness" is not arrived at accidentally there must be a reason for it....you object to labeling tea partiers as racists....fine,do you care to offer another explanation for their overwhelming "whiteness".This country is just too diverse for something like that to occur in a vacuum


Apples and oranges sanity...one is a group of miscreants banding together with a common agenda and hateful slogans....
And the other is a merit based Board of Directors.....surely you can see the difference there(not as sure SubRob will be able to keep up...but I never took you for out and out stupid).

Never said it was a crime to be white...nor did I ever say it was a crime to be a group of white men....what I did say was that it was highly troubling to see large groups of people banded together looking like the worlds largest family reunion(or words to that effect) Add to that their very questionable and highly divisive agenda and you have, what I see as no problem labeling them as,a group of racists.
And heres your real probem Sanity....not only do I but damm right I will.
I get to label them anyway I fucking want....you get to deny everything I say(and every sign they fucking carry) this is America....you have that right(the long protected right to bury ones head in the sand)...and I have the right(the equally long protected right to call it as I see it).Now onto your claim of "race-baiting" what a wonderful little spin move that is.....the very act of declaring that you think a group is racist.....you label to be race based baiting....give me a fucking break.Do you really think anyone is listening to this and all of a sudden saying to themselves...."oh I don't want to be a race baiter....I better back off" that line of bullshit is an out and out joke.
Finally you have made a point...no one  or no group of people are racists simply by dint of their skin color(if you took that from the 20 or so post's I have made on the subject it is back to reading comprehension class for you)but throw in their agenda,their signs and their hate....and you have enough information to convince me.
As far as I'm concerned that ship has sailed pal....and that case is closed.The tea baggers for the most part are racists...the ones who aren't are too simple minded to notice or have.like you I suspect so blinded themselves due to ideology that they don't see what is in front of their damm eyes.




blacksword404 -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/19/2010 3:21:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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According to the source, who sought anonymity for fear of reprisals, the Dems’ last minute scramble reflects a growing obsession among party leaders that they need to discredit the tea party movement soon or it will overwhelm them come the November election.


No, they're not afraid. Not.At.All.

If they were afraid they'd ignore the Tea Party, right?

I'm afraid of the violence when we first defund and then repeal this shit. That's when it's going to get ugly.


Both parties want the tea party to go away. The democrats because they could be a challenge to their time on top. And republicans because they could be overshadowed by them. The democrats want the tea party destroyed. The republicans want to roll them into their party.




Sanity -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/19/2010 3:27:20 PM)


Have it your way mike. I'm pretty sure you know how ridiculous your spin and backpedaling is, but you're right - no one can force you to be consistent, or argue in a logical manner.

Carry on.




slvemike4u -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/19/2010 4:06:48 PM)

Sanity given your posting history do you really want to bring the words "consistant" and "logical" to the table.
You are still blaming the financial meltdown on some defaulting dispossessed ex homeowners!
You don't seriously for a minute think I actually care whether or not you believe me consistant or logical......do you?
You have taken too many obstinate in the face of fact contrary positions based solely on ideology for me to be put-off by your impressions in those area's
Develop consistency,adapt some logic....hell grab some political integrity....than talk to me.




Sanity -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/19/2010 4:17:16 PM)


Thats a lie mike. I never blamed "some defaulting dispossessed ex homeowners".

Look it up, then talk to me about integrity.


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Sanity given your posting history do you really want to bring the words "consistant" and "logical" to the table.
You are still blaming the financial meltdown on some defaulting dispossessed ex homeowners!
You don't seriously for a minute think I actually care whether or not you believe me consistant or logical......do you?
You have taken too many obstinate in the face of fact contrary positions based solely on ideology for me to be put-off by your impressions in those area's
Develop consistency,adapt some logic....hell grab some political integrity....than talk to me.




Dubbelganger -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/19/2010 5:31:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

A truly racist organization wouldn't allow membership by any race they did not embrace. 

lol... How many black Klu Klux Klan members are there? 



I know of at least one:

Black K K K Member



"Trent Lott Foundation for Peace and Understanding" hahahaha that was hilarious.




vincentML -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/19/2010 6:54:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: blacksword404

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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According to the source, who sought anonymity for fear of reprisals, the Dems’ last minute scramble reflects a growing obsession among party leaders that they need to discredit the tea party movement soon or it will overwhelm them come the November election.


No, they're not afraid. Not.At.All.

If they were afraid they'd ignore the Tea Party, right?

I'm afraid of the violence when we first defund and then repeal this shit. That's when it's going to get ugly.


Both parties want the tea party to go away. The democrats because they could be a challenge to their time on top. And republicans because they could be overshadowed by them. The democrats want the tea party destroyed. The republicans want to roll them into their party.


Couldn't disagree more. The TPers are Ross Perot redux. Dems expect to lose seats in the off-cycle election. If the TP is still visible in 2012 they will cost the Republican presidential candidate any chance at election just as the Perotistas ousted George the elder in 1992..... imo.




slvemike4u -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/19/2010 7:19:47 PM)

Nah Sanity...I'm not looking anything up...I don't play those gotcha games...I will just ask you have you or have you not consistently laid the blame for the mess of Fannie and Freddie...and sub-prime loans....I want to see you deny that...and I will just sit back and watch the posters you have argued that fallacy with come out of the woodwork...of course at that point you will refer to them as trolls!




Sanity -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/20/2010 3:20:32 AM)


You wrote homeowners mike - and thats a lie.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Nah Sanity...I'm not looking anything up...I don't play those gotcha games...I will just ask you have you or have you not consistently laid the blame for the mess of Fannie and Freddie...and sub-prime loans....I want to see you deny that...and I will just sit back and watch the posters you have argued that fallacy with come out of the woodwork...of course at that point you will refer to them as trolls!




subrob1967 -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/20/2010 5:33:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
What in the fuck does the NY Times board of directors or the staff at MSNBC have to do with the topic?

Other than a blatant attempt to divert a topic that certain people do not want to discuss.

If you and Sanity want to debate hiring practices at major media outlets then start a thread for that, it has no relevance to this subject.



Are you really this dense? Mike claimed that the Tea Protesters were mostly white, therefore they must be racist.
Sanity and I counterpointed that the board of the NY Times ( A progressive rag) and the staff of MSNBC ( A progressive news channel) were also all white, therefore following Mike's fucked up rules, must also be racist.

If you can't follow the debate, and need me to explain this to you, I'll be happy to do so, I'm always willing to help out the mentally challenged.




slvemike4u -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/20/2010 12:00:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


You wrote homeowners mike - and thats a lie.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Nah Sanity...I'm not looking anything up...I don't play those gotcha games...I will just ask you have you or have you not consistently laid the blame for the mess of Fannie and Freddie...and sub-prime loans....I want to see you deny that...and I will just sit back and watch the posters you have argued that fallacy with come out of the woodwork...of course at that point you will refer to them as trolls!

Okay Sanity....keep playing word games and I guess technicaly you can claim that is a lie.Now explain how Fannie and/or Freddie is in trouble if the homeowners were paying their mortgages.After all that's what the two F's do...they make loans.So when you blame the credit crunch solely on the two F's you are in effect saying the deadbeat homeowners brought the whole thing down.
Of course you will deny all of this....which brings us full circle to "consistency" and "logic" with a dash of an "integrity" issue thrown in for good measure.
Tell me Sanity do you ever tire of tying yourself up in knots?




Lucylastic -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/20/2010 12:11:41 PM)

I think you are feeding his fantasy and at the moment he is grabbing his favourite sock!!!!




slvemike4u -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/20/2010 1:18:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
What in the fuck does the NY Times board of directors or the staff at MSNBC have to do with the topic?

Other than a blatant attempt to divert a topic that certain people do not want to discuss.

If you and Sanity want to debate hiring practices at major media outlets then start a thread for that, it has no relevance to this subject.



Are you really this dense? Mike claimed that the Tea Protesters were mostly white, therefore they must be racist.
Sanity and I counterpointed that the board of the NY Times ( A progressive rag) and the staff of MSNBC ( A progressive news channel) were also all white, therefore following Mike's fucked up rules, must also be racist.

If you can't follow the debate, and need me to explain this to you, I'll be happy to do so, I'm always willing to help out the mentally challenged.

I guess that will work...if RML is ready to accept an explanation from a probable racist,border line mental pygmie.
Or he can read along,follow the thread and use his own quite capable mind to sort things out.
Yeah,if I was him I would ignore the former....and go with the latter.That's just me of course [8|].He is free to make up his own mind.




Moonhead -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/20/2010 1:24:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
I guess that will work...if RML is ready to accept an explanation from a probable racist, border line mental pygmie.

Hey, don't talk about pahunkboy like that...




slvemike4u -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/20/2010 1:26:46 PM)

Nah,PA's no racist....




Moonhead -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/20/2010 1:45:13 PM)

He is a bit, but he's bigoted against the lizard people and the grey aliens from the crab nebula than any ethnic group. NOt sure that counts as racism, though, as neither exists.




slvemike4u -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/20/2010 2:02:31 PM)

And,now that you mention it he does seem just a little too cozy with realone and termy(absence of minorities in the group)....that would make them a group of three white guys...right.So ipso facto.....yep,he's another racist!




Sanity -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/20/2010 3:38:36 PM)



"In effect" huh?   [sm=lol.gif]

You enjoy your evening mike, I'm done with this.


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4uOkay Sanity....keep playing word games and I guess technicaly you can claim that is a lie.Now explain how Fannie and/or Freddie is in trouble if the homeowners were paying their mortgages.After all that's what the two F's do...they make loans.So when you blame the credit crunch solely on the two F's you are in effect saying the deadbeat homeowners brought the whole thing down.
Of course you will deny all of this....which brings us full circle to "consistency" and "logic" with a dash of an "integrity" issue thrown in for good measure.
Tell me Sanity do you ever tire of tying yourself up in knots?




slvemike4u -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/20/2010 4:37:17 PM)

Sanity you have been "done" for a good long while.....though you do seem to be one of the few who was not aware of this fact.Have a great evening yourself old friend [:)]




luckydawg -> RE: Tea Party Crashers (4/21/2010 1:17:35 AM)

Sanity, you are wasting your time arguing with a pill head....




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