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ORIGINAL: TeeGO

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: TeeGO

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

To state an extreme case: i know a woman has 3 slave gurls.  they work for her as unpaid employees in her company. These slave gurls have  no insurance,  no pension,  no savings,  no medical, no  accounts, zippo!

When i asked if she felt that was fair to them should something happen she quipped back at me, well they are slaves arent they?

At first glance that does seem wrong.  But we do not know the details.  I don't think it's our place to judge.  Are the 3 girls happy?  Are they all happy?  That what really matters, not our perception.

i am not sure why you would take things in this direction but i think everyone out here already knows i am not one to hide behind the "dont judge" hypocracy.   The fact of the matter is that we all judge everything around us every moment of our awake lives.

Anyway, yes they are happy, but so what? 

Of course none of them have medical check ups, none have come down with cancer, or any major medical.  (YET)

They do not know it but they will be homeless if this domme gets sick of them or if they get sick!  

So how do you judge that for yourself then?  Are you willing to become someones kept slave exactly as these gurls have with no safety net?   Thats really the question here for you.

if not why not?

What are you talking about?  This isn't about me.  Would I do that?  No.  Do I think they should be doing that?  No.  But that is not the point.  All you want is to win an argument.  You just sidestep the true point trying to win any point regardless of whether it's on point or not. What is on point is that we don't need somebody like YOU telling them, me, anyone but yourself, how they to live their lives. 

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ORIGINAL: TeeGO
What are you talking about?  This isn't about me.  Would I do that?  No.  Do I think they should be doing that?  No.  But that is not the point.  All you want is to win an argument.  You just sidestep the true point trying to win any point regardless of whether it's on point or not. What is on point is that we don't need somebody like YOU telling them, me, anyone but yourself, how they to live their lives.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

i am not sure why you would take things in this direction but i think everyone out here already knows i am not one to hide behind the "dont judge" hypocracy.   The fact of the matter is that we all judge everything around us every moment of our awake lives...

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
So how do you judge that for yourself then?  Are you willing to become someones kept slave exactly as these gurls have with no safety net?   Thats really the question here for you.
if not why not?

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Every domme will tell us that they will "take care of all our needs"  what do you feel those needs are.   (generically speaking)

So now you found the perfect sub as described in the other thread so tell us how you intend to make a perfect life together and what does the sub get out of it.

From my experience they typically offer me a nice mortgage bill(my name is not on the deed), car payments (her name her car), insurance bills(both), utility bills(both), all the housework, child care(theirs), finally a little kink with here a spank there a spank once in a while or the other extreme of bdsm obsession that is so caustraphobic, limiting and depressing that i could puke.   

Is that really what being a sub or slave to someone is all about?  Is that really all that there is out here?

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ORIGINAL: TeeGO
I feel bad for you as in almost every post you make your personal bitterness comes gushing out.

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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Every domme will tell us that they will "take care of all our needs"  what do you feel those needs are.   (generically speaking)

So now you found the perfect sub as described in the other thread so tell us how you intend to make a perfect life together and what does the sub get out of it.

From my experience they typically offer me a nice mortgage bill(my name is not on the deed), car payments (her name her car), insurance bills(both), utility bills(both), all the housework, child care(theirs), finally a little kink with here a spank there a spank once in a while or the other extreme of bdsm obsession that is so caustraphobic, limiting and depressing that i could puke.   

Is that really what being a sub or slave to someone is all about?  Is that really all that there is out here?

Perhaps I misread your original post, RealOne, but the lines quoted above are flippant and sarcastic, and your post was goading 'those of us who don't want to be lumped together in the above group' to 'come out and Carry Our Own Banner'!

I don't respond well to that type of 'bait'.

Had you asked a sincere question that was not sarcastic in nature, I'd have responded in kind.

As for the Dommes who answered sincerely, kudos to Each of Them for making a purse out of a sows post, so to speak.

Texas Maam

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One of the many things that I have to offer that perfect sub I want to collar is:

...the wisdom not to take too seriously the occasional flippant, sarcastic post. 

You know, like this one.

TexasMaam

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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

I wasn't being the least bit sarcastic in either post. On the contrary, I'm being most sincere and up front.

TexasMaam

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I feel bad for you as in almost every post you make your personal bitterness comes gushing out.

Ok then i stand corrected:   i am a no good low down scum of the earth bitter dirty judgemental bastard who tells them how to live who does not know the difference between my post and anyone elses.  point taken now can we move on?

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I'll not argue that point either.

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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

I did not bother responding to the original questions posed by the OP as they seemed negative and reeked of argumentative intent, which seems to be a pattern in most every post I have read of yours.

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I did not bother responding to the original questions posed by the OP as they seemed negative and reeked of argumentative intent, which seems to be a pattern in most every post I have read of yours.

i will remember to sugar coat every thing and put pretty pink bows on everything just for you and texas maam.  LOL  

Isnt it sad that there is a negative side to the way some subs/slaves are treated. Isnt is a shame that some dommes blame the messenger for talking about what their sisters brought to bear?

Like i said it takes someone with guts to talk about themselves out here and the way they handle their subs, and regardless of your take on the OP there was no arguing in here what so ever until teego got right wing and tm came in with her sarcastic remarks

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there was no arguing in here what so ever until teego got right wing and tm came in with her sarcastic remarks

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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei
your original post practically screamed 'argue with me'.  If you had written it the way most other submissives who regularly post here would have written it, I would have answered it.  If you should ever care to take the time to read any of My other posts, you will see that I gladly offer plenty of information as to how I handle My submissives.  No need to sugar coat anything, just leave out the arrogance and I will be happy.  I do love pretty pink bows, so feel free to those as you wish.

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In that sense, I am a pretty "low on the totem pole" femdom as far as being ideal. I'm the dream domina for men I will dominate, but a bitch/fake to those I choose not to. I can live with that.

Akasha

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This last comment pretty well summed it up for me.  I liked all of what you said, but there's a strong truth to what you say that for the people who are into your brand of kink, you will be authentic and true and the dream domina.  For the people who don't click with you, you'll seem a bitch.  There are always people in the BDSM community who set out to define who is authentic and real based upon their own standards.  Some of them even go as far as to shun certain people or make lists of "bad" bdsm people.  This to me is total shyte.  Many times people strike out as a way of making up for their bruised egos when they are rejected.   Although there may truly be scary people out there who don't follow SSC or other reasonable rules of behavior, there are also a lot of egos and a lot of prescribed behavior which has nothing to do with acceptability and all to do with a particular philosophy or personality.    There's a good article out there on the ethics of bdsm that warns against bdsm infighting and how for a group of open minded people we can be very narrow minded and judgemental to each other regarding the "proper" method of engaging in bdsm relationships.

Nobody is perfect.  Everybody is different.  We all live and learn.

A forum like this is very helpful though because in the mix of opinions and debate we can all learn something.


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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

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your original post practically screamed 'argue with me'.  If you had written it the way most other submissives who regularly post here would have written it, I would have answered it.  If you should ever care to take the time to read any of My other posts, you will see that I gladly offer plenty of information as to how I handle My submissives.  No need to sugar coat anything, just leave out the arrogance and I will be happy.  I do love pretty pink bows, so feel free to those as you wish.

RealOne, if you're having a bitotrouble finding a good Domme, you might want to re-read Mistress Lorelei's post, above, because that's exactly how your original post came across to Me, as well.

Just a suggestion, the rest is up to you.

Good luck.

TexasMaam

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In that sense, I am a pretty "low on the totem pole" femdom as far as being ideal. I'm the dream domina for men I will dominate, but a bitch/fake to those I choose not to. I can live with that.
Akasha

This last comment pretty well summed it up for me.  I liked all of what you said, but there's a strong truth to what you say that for the people who are into your brand of kink, you will be authentic and true and the dream domina.  For the people who don't click with you, you'll seem a bitch.  There are always people in the BDSM community who set out to define who is authentic and real based upon their own standards.  Some of them even go as far as to shun certain people or make lists of "bad" bdsm people.  This to me is total shyte.  Many times people strike out as a way of making up for their bruised egos when they are rejected.   Although there may truly be scary people out there who don't follow SSC or other reasonable rules of behavior, there are also a lot of egos and a lot of prescribed behavior which has nothing to do with acceptability and all to do with a particular philosophy or personality.    There's a good article out there on the ethics of bdsm that warns against bdsm infighting and how for a group of open minded people we can be very narrow minded and judgemental to each other regarding the "proper" method of engaging in bdsm relationships.

Nobody is perfect.  Everybody is different.  We all live and learn.

A forum like this is very helpful though because in the mix of opinions and debate we can all learn something.