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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/3/2010 5:29:45 PM   
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"I didn't do it!"
"I didn't say it!"
You guys got caught. You got caught with your hands in the racist cookie jar and now you're trying to wiggle out of it!

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/3/2010 8:59:57 PM   
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"I didn't do it!"
"I didn't say it!"
You guys got caught. You got caught with your hands in the racist cookie jar and now you're trying to wiggle out of it!


And again, that's complete bullshit. Show me one post where I said anything about you being a racist. Show me one post where I said anything about Obama. If you can't do that, then for god's sake just quit making all this shit up. Stick to the facts and leave your assumptions out of it. Every single post you've made in here has been based on assumptions, instead of facts, from  the opening post right up to Page 8 here. Assumptions about what community organizers do for a living, assumptions about how they do their jobs, assumptions about the communities with which they work, assumptions about what other people are saying in response to you, and every goddamned assumption is completely... fucking... wrong.

The facts on every one of these issues are right in front of your eyes, and you're completely ignoring them because you're so obsessed with your narrowminded assumptions. You're in miles over your head, and making an ass of yourself because you have no idea what anyone in this thread is saying, including yourself. Give it a rest, and save yourself some embarrassment, for pete's sake.


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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/3/2010 9:19:37 PM   
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Popeye's as much a racist as Richard Nixon, which is to say that I don't think he's personally a racist in the least, but there's still that damned southern strategy to reckon with. . .

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 1:34:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Is "poor neighborhood" some kind of leftist "code" for "black?"

Nope,unfortunately, it`s the harshest of realities.

Someday, I`m going to start a thread asking why African Americans are still behind in so many areas and yet such a high % of them are in jail or on probation.

Another day tho and hopefully without the demagogerists spoiling the discussion.

.


Owner, I have your answer; DRUGS!
More stereotyping horseshit.

“If you were to ask the person on the street what the typical drug user looks like, they would probably describe to you somebody who is African American and male,” says Dr. Martha Hurley, an associate professor of political science and criminal justice at the Citadel.

She says when it comes to drugs and race perception is not reality.

“We know that based on data there are relatively small differences between blacks and whites in their use of illicit substances,” says Hurley.

The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration conducts the annual National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH).

According to the most recent 2006 survey about 49 percent of whites admit to illicit drug use at some point in their life, while 43 percent of blacks admit the same.

When it comes to regular use of marijuana there is only about a 1 percent difference on who uses.

The surveys from 2004-2005 say that nationally 6.2 % of whites used marijuana in the past month, while 7.3% for blacks.

Hurley says the data raises an important question: if whites and blacks are using drugs at relatively similar rates, how is it possible 3 quarters of the population of people who are in prison for drug related crimes are African Americans?

Researcher Dr. Jon Gettman of Shenandoah University analyzes crime data from the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting Program.

He estimates that in some places blacks are about 3 times more likely than whites to be arrested for possession of marijuana.

According to Gettman’s website Drugscience.org the State of South Carolina’s marijuana possession arrest rate between 1995 to 2007 went from 247 to 273 per 100,000 people among whites.

During the same time period he found that among blacks the rate went from 297 to 678 per 100,000 people.

Gettman found agencies in Charleston County reporting 2007 marijuana possession arrest rates were 431 per 100,000 among whites, and 1,271 per 100,000 among blacks.

“In the African American community it’s known that whites are using drugs just as much but not being arrested as much and it creates negative feelings,” says Hurley.

She says one of the reasons for the disparity with arrests is that police are more often patrolling minority neighborhoods known for high crime where drug dealers and users are relatively easy to spot."
http://www2.counton2.com/cbd/news/local/article/reality_of_race_unequal_consequences_among_races_for_illegal_drugs/133648/

Can you admit that you are wrong? Can you admit that white cops profile black males? Can you admit that white judges sentence blacks more harshly?

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 11:13:38 AM   
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Owner, you could never be a community organizer, you don't have a pony tail.



Neither did martin king.

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 11:22:11 AM   
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So does anyone here live in a community which appears to be disorganized?

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 11:25:14 AM   
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Which, ironically, brings us back to....Major Dick Armey!


In the military his name tag would read:
Major Armey Dick

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 11:28:17 AM   
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  I really do not see it and this is the second time that I have seen it. 


I don't mean to be a smart ass but are you related to Yogi Berra.

Butch


Now that is funny...good shot kd

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 11:31:05 AM   
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Mother; So Johnny, what do you want to be when you grow up, a Fireman, Cop, Cowboy?"
Johnny; "I want to be a COMMUNITY ACTIVIST!"
Father; "I knew it! He's a fuckin' QUEER!"


Homophoic and ignorant...now that is a pair to draw to.

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 11:32:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Mother; So Johnny, what do you want to be when you grow up, a Fireman, Cop, Cowboy?"
Johnny; "I want to be a COMMUNITY ACTIVIST!"
Father; "I knew it! He's a fuckin' QUEER!"


Homophoic and ignorant...now that is a pair to draw to.



You said this already.  

A few times.

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 11:35:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Mother; So Johnny, what do you want to be when you grow up, a Fireman, Cop, Cowboy?"
Johnny; "I want to be a COMMUNITY ACTIVIST!"
Father; "I knew it! He's a fuckin' QUEER!"


Homophobia, bigotry and barely concealed racism all on the one thread.

Is there a point to this Popeye ?


Wow.  I thought that it was a joke making fun of rednecks. 

Perhaps someone could point out the homophobia, bigotry, and racism to me.  (Okay, I will grant that the whole, 'He's a fucking queer' could be construed as homophobic, but really it looks more like a generational thing to me.  Or redneck.)


Fucking queer is not a homophobic slur in your world.

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 11:37:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dubbelganger


quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Is "poor neighborhood" some kind of leftist "code" for "black?"

Nope,unfortunately, it`s the harshest of realities.

Someday, I`m going to start a thread asking why African Americans are still behind in so many areas and yet such a high % of them are in jail or on probation.

Another day tho and hopefully without the demagogerists spoiling the discussion.

.


Owner, I have your answer; DRUGS!
More stereotyping horseshit.

“If you were to ask the person on the street what the typical drug user looks like, they would probably describe to you somebody who is African American and male,” says Dr. Martha Hurley, an associate professor of political science and criminal justice at the Citadel.

She says when it comes to drugs and race perception is not reality.

“We know that based on data there are relatively small differences between blacks and whites in their use of illicit substances,” says Hurley.

The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration conducts the annual National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH).

According to the most recent 2006 survey about 49 percent of whites admit to illicit drug use at some point in their life, while 43 percent of blacks admit the same.

When it comes to regular use of marijuana there is only about a 1 percent difference on who uses.

The surveys from 2004-2005 say that nationally 6.2 % of whites used marijuana in the past month, while 7.3% for blacks.

Hurley says the data raises an important question: if whites and blacks are using drugs at relatively similar rates, how is it possible 3 quarters of the population of people who are in prison for drug related crimes are African Americans?

Researcher Dr. Jon Gettman of Shenandoah University analyzes crime data from the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting Program.

He estimates that in some places blacks are about 3 times more likely than whites to be arrested for possession of marijuana.

According to Gettman’s website Drugscience.org the State of South Carolina’s marijuana possession arrest rate between 1995 to 2007 went from 247 to 273 per 100,000 people among whites.

During the same time period he found that among blacks the rate went from 297 to 678 per 100,000 people.

Gettman found agencies in Charleston County reporting 2007 marijuana possession arrest rates were 431 per 100,000 among whites, and 1,271 per 100,000 among blacks.

“In the African American community it’s known that whites are using drugs just as much but not being arrested as much and it creates negative feelings,” says Hurley.

She says one of the reasons for the disparity with arrests is that police are more often patrolling minority neighborhoods known for high crime where drug dealers and users are relatively easy to spot."
http://www2.counton2.com/cbd/news/local/article/reality_of_race_unequal_consequences_among_races_for_illegal_drugs/133648/

Can you admit that you are wrong? Can you admit that white cops profile black males? Can you admit that white judges sentence blacks more harshly?


Dubble, "police are more often patroling minority neighborhoods known for high crime where drug dealers and users are relatively easy to spot."
Gee, no kidding? If people in any neighborhoods (wearn't) pushing and using drugs they wouldn't be (shudder) "caught" for that, would they?
Should we tell the police to stay out of "high crime" neighborhoods then? What would people say about that?
Can you imagine the uproar?
I live in Myrtle Beach, S. Carolina , I'm origionally from Boston, Mass one of the "bluest of blue states." I think marijuana (should) be legalized. But does anyone think we should legalize Heroin, Crack or Meth? Those drugs cause people to steal, do armed robberies, kill people etc. And look at the damage Alcohol does! People who do those things are a menace to society and dangerous! Does it really matter what their skin color or racial background is?
If you're working in a gas station do you really care who walks in and sticks a gun in your face and robs you because they need money to buy drugs?
You have to realize that there are more black people who live in SC than whites. So right off the hop the statistics are going to be scuewed.
As for "profiling" wouldn't the cops go,..."where the drugs are?" "Where the crime is?"
If there's an area that has a lot of late night bars and they catch a lot of people for DUI's should we tell the police to stay away from that area?
Here's an idea, why not don't drive drunk and don't use drugs? Then, ...you don't have to worry about all that stuff, right?
"In the African-American community it's known that whites are using drugs just as much but not being arrested as much and it creates negative feelings."
Oh REALLY? So, if they could be *assured* that more white people would be arrested for drugs then those "negative feelings" would dissapear,...right?
You know, if, as a white bankrobber I found out that the cops were arresting *more* black bankrobbers than whites it just wouldn't make (me) feel all warm and fuzzy inside! That'd be a threat to *all* in my craft!
"Dr. Jon Gettman" eh? Is he getting any Taxpayer dollars for this "study?"
I started this thread to talk about "community organizers." And look where we end up. Hijack City!

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 11:52:21 AM   
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Panda, if I'm bigoted I'd have to be "bigoted"* against myself* because I grew up in a "poor neighborhood" like that!

Yes...but you have explained to us in great detail how you kept from being poor by lying,cheating and stealing from your employers

One of my friend's father was "big in the union."
He'd be walking around with a neckbrace on in public all the time "on disability" and one time I went over to the house and the music's blaring in the living room and the kids were holding up a bamboo stick that they used to wrap carpets around and "The shop Steward" is doing the fuckin' *LIMBO dance* bending real low under the bamboo stick neckbrace and all! And he won! "How LOWWWWWW,...can you gooooo?"

So is it your position that you learned to be a criminal from this man?


In those days the "Union Guys" were the "neighborhood organizers." EVERYONE was running some kind of scam! Even my father!

Oh my a family of criminals...something to be right proud of

Hell, even I had a few scams going.
Yes you have regailed us with your stories of how you would lie,cheat and steal from your employers.

And when the pols wanted votes guess who's doors they knocked on?
I live in a nice neighborhood now and for almost six years


So it would appear that your criminal ways have paid off.


I've *never* seen a "neighborhood organizer" here knocking on doors! Holy rollers once in a while yes.
You can't tell me there not some kind of manual telling all you anal-retentives how to speak so as not to,....."OFFEND" people! Hell, Polite Sub probably helped write it!

I must not have been sent my copy because I have no problem telling you exactly how you portray yourself on this board.

And where do you think all the "social services" people came from? Our neighborhoods! "Everyone" knew "everyone."


Your point would be???


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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 12:25:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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Panda, if I'm bigoted I'd have to be "bigoted"* against myself* because I grew up in a "poor neighborhood" like that!

Yes...but you have explained to us in great detail how you kept from being poor by lying,cheating and stealing from your employers

One of my friend's father was "big in the union."
He'd be walking around with a neckbrace on in public all the time "on disability" and one time I went over to the house and the music's blaring in the living room and the kids were holding up a bamboo stick that they used to wrap carpets around and "The shop Steward" is doing the fuckin' *LIMBO dance* bending real low under the bamboo stick neckbrace and all! And he won! "How LOWWWWWW,...can you gooooo?"

So is it your position that you learned to be a criminal from this man?


In those days the "Union Guys" were the "neighborhood organizers." EVERYONE was running some kind of scam! Even my father!

Oh my a family of criminals...something to be right proud of

Hell, even I had a few scams going.
Yes you have regailed us with your stories of how you would lie,cheat and steal from your employers.

And when the pols wanted votes guess who's doors they knocked on?
I live in a nice neighborhood now and for almost six years


So it would appear that your criminal ways have paid off.


I've *never* seen a "neighborhood organizer" here knocking on doors! Holy rollers once in a while yes.
You can't tell me there not some kind of manual telling all you anal-retentives how to speak so as not to,....."OFFEND" people! Hell, Polite Sub probably helped write it!

I must not have been sent my copy because I have no problem telling you exactly how you portray yourself on this board.

And where do you think all the "social services" people came from? Our neighborhoods! "Everyone" knew "everyone."


Your point would be???




Thompson, hell no I never "learned" from that guy! He was "small potatos!"
His name was "Jerry" and he hung out with an uncle of mine who was "Jerry" too.
They were both in the Marines in WW2. My uncle Jerry was "the good Jerry" and Mr. neckbrace was "the bad Jerry." Real underhanded!
Decades later I found out from one of the "bad Jerry's" daughters that "the good Jerry" was banging "bad Jerry's" wife!
Seems she walked in on them as a little girl.
I learned a lot from the Italians. Half my friends in the neighborhood were Italians.
What can I say, I came from a "poor neighborhood." I drove through there last year on my way to N.H. and there's no smokestacks and no factories anymore. Sure, you can breath the air but everyone's broke.
As for knocking on the door for votes I meant *that* neighborhood, not here in M.B.
And as for "stealing from my employers" they fuckin' deserved it! Mario and Dominick were stealing from *everyone* including each other! They'd steal from the guys who "fenced" stuff to them. "No, no, there's no hundred tv's in there, go count 'em, there's only 70!" "You're trying to screw me you prick!"
We were supposed to get paid on fridays only "friday" never came.
"Oh sorry kid! Catch me next week!"
They'd clean out the cash registers and head to the Track!

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 1:36:27 PM   
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I am sorry I failed to make my self clear.
You brag about being a criminal.
You brag about living large now which one can only believe is a direct result of your criminal past.
You castigate others who are criminals like you.
My point was and is that you are a two faced hypocrite and you seem oblivious to it.

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 1:38:24 PM   
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Man- I am glad I got out of the city.

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 1:53:11 PM   
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I am sorry I failed to make my self clear.
You brag about being a criminal.
You brag about living large now which one can only believe is a direct result of your criminal past.
You castigate others who are criminals like you.
My point was and is that you are a two faced hypocrite and you seem oblivious to it.




Thompson, I'm not "bragging" about it, that's the way things were in those days. I have nothing to "brag" about compared to some of the people I grew up with anyway.
I don't, "live large" and my income has nothng to do with "crime."
I'm not a "criminal", I'm retired.
Hypocrite? I tell the truth. As they say in Boston, "there's no virgins around here." I haven't tried to portray myself as anything other than what I am, if I did, then why haven't I been much more flattering in describing myself?
Thompson, I don't know you either other than on these boards. If someone asked me to describe you I wouldn't be able to do it.

Boy, I'm learning soooooo much about "Community Organizers!"

< Message edited by popeye1250 -- 6/4/2010 1:55:24 PM >


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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 4:15:14 PM   
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Owner, you could never be a community organizer, you don't have a pony tail.



Neither did martin king.


Thompson, Martin Luther King was an *ordained minister!*
I'm talking about "community organizers", people who do that as a "sole avocation" and derive *all* their income from it.
If I started a thread about oh,..."Dentists" would you start talking about "construction workers?"
This is like playing "Wack -A-Mole! You hit one and another one pops up!

< Message edited by popeye1250 -- 6/4/2010 4:27:46 PM >


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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 5:14:53 PM   
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Owner, you could never be a community organizer, you don't have a pony tail.



Neither did martin king.


Thompson, Martin Luther King was an *ordained minister!*
I'm talking about "community organizers", people who do that as a "sole avocation" and derive *all* their income from it.
If I started a thread about oh,..."Dentists" would you start talking about "construction workers?"
This is like playing "Wack -A-Mole! You hit one and another one pops up!


Dude, can you name a single community organizer for whom that is their sole avocation? Aside from Gandhi?

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RE: "Community Organizers." - 6/4/2010 6:20:10 PM   
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Owner, you could never be a community organizer, you don't have a pony tail.



Neither did martin king.


Thompson, Martin Luther King was an *ordained minister!*
I'm talking about "community organizers", people who do that as a "sole avocation" and derive *all* their income from it.
If I started a thread about oh,..."Dentists" would you start talking about "construction workers?"
This is like playing "Wack -A-Mole! You hit one and another one pops up!


Dude, can you name a single community organizer for whom that is their sole avocation? Aside from Gandhi?


Actually, he is right about that one, There are quite a lot of people who do that for a living, and make a very nice little career out of it. Doesn't pay great, but most people who do it for their life's work are willing to accept that in order to do that for their job.


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