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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 11:18:53 AM   
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I think 'baby-talk' is more acceptable if it's kept somewhat private.  Every year I read the Valentines Day messages in the Times - 'my fluffy honey bunny poodlesquonks', etc, etc - and my stomach lurches.  Why such baby-talk is more offensive to my gut to read about than, say, pegging of one's dick, I don't know.  Sign of the times, I suppose.    


lol now it is going to seem like I am picking on you, but truly I'm not.

Baby talk as a kink, should be accepted, just as any other kink is accepted, or should be. I just feel that if it isn't your (general) cup of tea, then ignore the subject. I enjoy AB play, I enjoy many kinks that have the "squik" factor for some. I wouldn't say a great big ewww if someone mentions playing in scat. I would just shrug it off as their kink, not mine.



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I wish the BDSM community, as a whole, would be more tolerant of certain kinks, but I don't think this is going to change any time soon.


But then again, I never thought that there would be a black President in my lifetime. (That is a good thing, btw) As the great Bob Dylan says "The time's, they are-a changin", (1964) So who knows, maybe a BDSM community (Not this board, but actually communities) who prides itself on tolerance will some day be, tolerant.

Now there's a thought.

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 11:23:51 AM   
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What was missed in the OP's case, IMHO, was the even more crucial factor of consensuality.

In our community, it's considered perfectly cool to be a heavy sadist who is into rough body play. However, if you pull this stuff out of your ass on a random partner, totally by surprise and without prior negotiation or consent, that's not so cool. I could say the same for AB diaper messing play, age play in general, golden showers, switching, needles, fisting etc. When two fully consenting people negotiate for these scenes, it is fun for all. If one person pulls it on another by surprise, without checking in with their partner first to see if they are into this thing and consent to doing it with them, it's gonna be a trainwreck at best and jail time at worst.


Oh how true are these words! I felt the need to quote them again.

Now..did someone mention a red hot poker?


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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 11:27:27 AM   
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No.  I'm sorry, but this is a description of a common fault of dominants.  I've seen it all too frequently on CM.


Of dominants, or of the scammers who pose as femdoms on adult sites to part fools from their money?  A lot of them shave every morning, and I'm not talking about their legs. 


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Both femsubs and femdommes have commented on it with regard to doms rather than femdommes, but it's there, nonetheless.  If dominants can't see that, then I'd say that this might well be because it's yet another symptom of a narcissistic 'denial of personal faults'. 


I think it's a matter of exposure and experience.  I am active in my local femdom group, and have been for many years.  I simply do not know many other dominant women in realtime who behave the way you are describing.  I definitely don't know any who are active in the community and are in sustainable LTR's who act that way.   I have run into a few narcissists over the years, mostly pros with a bad case of Top's Disease who started believing their own PR and stereotypes from bad femdom porn.  They were not nice or happy people, and they rarely did much with the realtime community, mostly because no one would put up with them for long without laughing in their face.  Their male counterparts get the same treatment.

One of the current (fairly minor) relationship issues I'm ironing out with my secondary is that we *both* tend to be completely focused on his needs and wants, what he is feeling, and making him happy.  My primary is a natural caretaker and nurturer, as am I, so for us it balances out.  My secondary is much quieter and accepts what he is given without questioning or taking any initiative, and we've found that the end result of that is that I spend so much time being fascinated by living in his head, making him feel and respond, and taking care of him that I quite often end up ignoring my own needs.  I take care of what is mine; this is what a strong and responsible dominant does in my world.  With my secondary, I'm learning that this works best when I also remember to take care of myself, or when I ask him to step up and be proactively thoughtful on my behalf.   But these are skills that both of us are still working on and communicating about, because it's not my natural inclination at all.   Making my cherished pet and property happy makes me happy.  So selfishly, perhaps, it's what I do. 

There's assholes and problem children in every community, and no group is ever immune to them.  I do think the numbers are significantly skewed on anonymous Internet sites towards the assholes, because they have fewer real time consequences and the community filters are lower or nonexistent. 


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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 11:41:24 AM   
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Perhaps you could go off and find picture of the anus of someone to whom that had happened, Elan - for the general educational and cultural enhancement of this forum's readership?


Why, certainly.  Aren't you glad there are such nice, considerate service tops on board who will do their best to make you happy?

Edit: I seem to be having difficulty when I click on the upload more files link, alas.

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 11:44:31 AM   
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PeonForHer,

Are you seriously miffed at me?  I was just joking around and truly did not mean to offend you.  Please accept my apology if I misjudged something I thought would be humourous, but instead came across in a really offensive way.

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 11:46:11 AM   
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Ahh, there you go, Peon. Enjoy!

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 11:52:37 AM   
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*FR*

Talk about surprise buttsecks.

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 11:58:30 AM   
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Oh my... I think I might be sick.

Um... how does that happen exactly?

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 12:18:25 PM   
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Oh my... I think I might be sick.

Um... how does that happen exactly?



My best guess from the appearance of the tissue and surrounding musculature is bedsores/pressure sores, but I am not anywhere near an expert on human medical issues, so perhaps someone more educated on the subject will chime in.

Or maybe ElanSubdued finally caught up with Peon and used that red hot poker for some nice surprise buttsecks, as he requested.  Who knows. 

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 12:23:06 PM   
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PeonForHer,

Are you seriously miffed at me?  I was just joking around and truly did not mean to offend you.  Please accept my apology if I misjudged something I thought would be humourous, but instead came across in a really offensive way.

E.



Nah.  I've seen worse - usually sent as email attachments by one or another of my old friends.  And, lately, my father.  I don't know what's started buzzing around in his head.  I put it down to his having gone teetotal. 

I have a female friend who's really into hitting me with disgusting surprises.  I've got a little theory regarding women, though - they see more disgusting stuff in their lives as a result of 'nature's curse'. 

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 12:29:58 PM   
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Ahh, there you go, Peon. Enjoy!




LadyN, I seriously think you should get that seen to.  I know you're a keen fitness fan, but I feel that you've overdone it a bit on the sit-ups, there.

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 12:42:47 PM   
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I think it's a matter of exposure and experience.  I am active in my local femdom group, and have been for many years.  I simply do not know many other dominant women in realtime who behave the way you are describing.  I definitely don't know any who are active in the community and are in sustainable LTR's who act that way.   I have run into a few narcissists over the years, mostly pros with a bad case of Top's Disease who started believing their own PR and stereotypes from bad femdom porn.  They were not nice or happy people, and they rarely did much with the realtime community, mostly because no one would put up with them for long without laughing in their face.  Their male counterparts get the same treatment.


Thinking about it: yep, that's been my experience, too.   Whether internet BDSM sites attract more of the loons, or whether people who are decent and balanced in real life save their innermost, and nuttiest, feelings for such sites, I don't know. 


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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 12:47:27 PM   
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Yes, looks like decubitus ulcers to me... but yes, I have seen far, far worse. The ones that go down where the bone is exposed are just LOVELY.

Regarding YKINMK. Yanno... I am just not a PC kind of gal. I think if folks want to walk about in dirty diapers on their own time, spiffy. I call EW EW EW on that. Not in a judgmental oh don't do that way, just EW. And those folks that find my love of making a cutting and licking up the blood really a total grossout? That's cool. Each to their own. I think we can express our opinions of ICK without challenging someone's right to whatever.

And LOOK at all you've gotten up to while we were out playing with the faux-grandchild!! Been diagnosing and bickering and such!!

Having been with a narcissist...an ADHD narcissist with delusional disorder, thx...I can assure you that the person who HAS the issues does not recognize them. It is the people alllll around him or her who are not understanding of his/her general awesomeness and not sympathetic to his/her needs. I have a friend ( a professional therapist) who says she has had some success with those cases, but IMO there's not much to be done. When you really can't see past yourself to another human being, what's the motivation to change?

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 12:49:45 PM   
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I think it's a matter of exposure and experience.  I am active in my local femdom group, and have been for many years.  I simply do not know many other dominant women in realtime who behave the way you are describing.  I definitely don't know any who are active in the community and are in sustainable LTR's who act that way.   I have run into a few narcissists over the years, mostly pros with a bad case of Top's Disease who started believing their own PR and stereotypes from bad femdom porn.  They were not nice or happy people, and they rarely did much with the realtime community, mostly because no one would put up with them for long without laughing in their face.  Their male counterparts get the same treatment.


Thinking about it: yep, that's been my experience, too.   Whether internet BDSM sites attract more of the loons, or whether people who are decent and balanced in real life save their innermost, and nuttiest, feelings for such sites, I don't know. 



My experience matches LnT's. The swollen heads were laughed off or just ignored. There was a gal who charged a mint for her services, but none of us other women could stand her---she was rude, presumptuous, and generally acted as if it was a favour when she deigned to show up somewhere. It's like the loudmouth that sits at the corner of the bar. Pretty much everyone turns their chair away.

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 4:52:55 PM   
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But i am certainly not narcistic, because it isn't a word.

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 4:55:30 PM   
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But i am certainly not narcistic, because it isn't a word.



You are not funny. At all. NARCISSISTIC. Spelling counts, but we give bonus points for low vision folks.

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 6:31:38 PM   
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I had a bf once that stood and posed by the door and baby talked while his hand went to his penis and he baby talked and asked if I wanted to see it. NO!


 
Something like this never even crossed my mind, but I've added it to my hard limits list as of right now.  Thank you for bringing this to my attention, Lockit.  Age play, I've enjoyed, but innocent things not something squicky like this.

When lurch brought up the baby talk with toes, one of the random thoughts that went through my head was suggesting slapping a diaper on him, getting an adult sized baby pacifier and modifying it into a ball gag, and making sure that he knew how to give a good foot bath, lotion massage, and pedicure. 

lurch, I'm an old thing of 46, and large...and yet there are a good dozen male subs or bottoms in my area who would enjoy scening with me.  (I've had plenty visit me from out of state.)  If I have all these males available in my one horse town, surely your Mistress does too.  She will not stay on some shelf collecting dust without you.

She might be very fond of you, and cutting you more slack because of this...but given enough rope, you can also hang yourself with it.  

You're right, you do have major trust issues...and your not trusting her to lead this relationship in the right direction might just be the death of it. 

My apologies to your Mistress, if I've said anything offensive.

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 6:35:31 PM   
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Cynthia,

I just posted this in another "Lurch" thread, but it fits perfectly here too.  I'm starting to wonder whether Lurch999, MistressXbox, and everything posted under these two accounts isn't a huge hoax perpetrated for someone's amusement.  Lurch himself is the kind of submissive experienced dommes spot very quickly and avoid.  And MistressXbox, if she is as experienced as she claims to be, why is she putting up with the antics of this boy in private and, in public, his seemingly insatiable need to second-guess his dominant's commands and spoodge private aspects of their relationship all over this forum?  The Tolkien-esque-come-perverse-baby-talk, foot fetish stuff is just more support for the argument.  I know of no dominant who would allow a boy to continue this way had the dominant voiced their displeasure at this activity.  My vote is neither of these two exist and someone's having a great laugh at our expense.

Side note:  this post isn't a jab at baby talk.  Rather, I'm just noting what we've been led to believe are the dominant's feelings on the matter.  So, adding everything up, Lurch previously bought a video game he was told not to, refused to accept confiscation of his Xbox for a week, and now ignores his dominant's wishes again, both in private and in public.  Even Lurch's new avatar photo, which we're supposed to believe is punishment, penance, and atonement, feels odd.  This doesn't seem how a dominant, after releasing a boy, would agree to take him back.  Let's get real here.  There is no dominant in this equation.  What we have is a troll who is having a wonderful time posting fiction.

Elan.

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 6:45:09 PM   
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My hunch is that they're separate people, Elan, but that they might just be having fun with the drama they're creating here.  One side gets to feel superior, the other inferior - presto, a nice little fillip to their dynamic, perhaps. 

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RE: Would this be annoying to you? - 6/6/2010 6:49:50 PM   
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PeonForHer,

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My hunch is that they're separate people, Elan, but that they might just be having fun with the drama they're creating here.  One side gets to feel superior, the other inferior - presto, a nice little fillip to their dynamic, perhaps.


You may be right, but whatever the case, something isn't on the up-and-up and we're being used for someone else's amusement.

E.

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