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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 7:07:24 AM   
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When I first started attending private play parties, there were a couple S.A.M.'s (Smart Ass Masochists) in our group.  Being rather shy and reserved, I'd watch how they behaved, kind of shocked and a little annoyed.  The Dominants in attendance seemed to come alive when the S.A.M.'s were around, and at the time I just didn't understand what they saw in those girls.  How could they endorse and encourage such bad and bratty behavior? 

Part of me was disgusted with them.  But, part of me was envious too.  I wanted to be that spontaneous and playful, I just didn't know how to at that time.  And yes, part of me wanted to bask in the attention I saw these annoying little twits getting.

I found that spontaneous, playfull side of myself in time.  I like to think it is typically tempered with a genuine kindness and courtesy of others, so I never really see myself as bratty.  However, if someone were to catch me on a rare hyper-playful day, they might have a different opinion of me than I have of myself.  I hope not.  Actual brats appear, in my estimation, to be somewhat focused on themselves, and getting what they want - in whatever way works to that end.  I generally find this ego-centric behavior to be negative and try not to emulate it.  I don't equate bratty/spoiled behavior, with what I see in most submissives actions.  I know they call themselves brats, but I see playful and spontaneous.  Not ego-centric, me me me, give me what I want, behavior.  Unless, of course, I DO see that.  then I just call it like I see it.

Still, when I found I could just enjoy myself and not take it all so personally or seriously, I was glad to find that playful and spontaneous side of myself.  It is one reason I tend to prefer the more casual and less protocol dominants.  My inner child is still, even now, a bit fragile.  When in a sintuation where I'm faced with someone who is strict, I revert back to my shy and reserved self, and well, I don't really enjoy that person as much as I enjoy the more playful side of myself. 

Anyway, that's my take on the whole brat, not-the-brat thing.

As for sarcasm.  I live in Michigan, where sarcasm is pretty much an artform.  It was sink or swim, baby, and let me just say:  I have a very healthy self-preservation instinct.

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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 7:12:10 AM   
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! i have seen some pretty nasty unslave like behaviour on here as well



Your kidding right?... you have seen unslave like behavior, on the internet?... I am stunned no SHOCKED.......

That anyone would take what is written here by folks who do not belong to other folks as a sign of how submissive they may or may not be.



Know how to read? i meant exactly what i said, a slave acting very un-slavelike in general manner,but i can certainly see me a slave being highly annoyed at your lack of a better time then to comment on a quote on such a small part of the comment. i suppose many of us have Masters who like a strong submissive with backbone ~ jewels
Jewel....it is not up to you to decide "unslave-like behavior". Many are like myself and submit to one only in a personal and private manner. When dealing with others, be it on the forums, in the workforce, friendships, etc, i am in no way submissive. Does that make me less of a submissive/slave? No, of course not. It means that i am wearing the hat of holly the poster/boss/employee/friend.

When you point a judgmental finger, there are three fingers pointing right back at you.





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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 8:00:04 AM   
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Thank you Jefffffff and Holly. I don't know why there isn't room for quiet subs, loud subs, funny subs and even obnoxious subs. Same thing with the Doms.
What makes a dom a better dom? Choosing a shy quiet sub who will wordlessly always do as (s)he's told, or choosing a sub with a fiery side that will sometimes challenge even his/her dom?
Maybe it's neither.
It is what it is, and people are what and who they are.
Being a quiet in the shadows type would be as alien to me as being gregarious and "bratty" would be to some others.
The beautiful thing is that we can all find those who love and appreciate us for our own unique qualities and quirks.

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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 8:13:33 AM   
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The whole "sublier than thou" thing gets tiresome.

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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 9:14:22 AM   
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i have to agree with most,you got your panties in a wad simply because some had different opinions and not one post was intentianlly cruel,your less than total subness surfaced. i agree with your line of thought,there are some who brag i'm a bad girl thing outrightly when not in socially accepted times of convo,like look at me! i have seen some pretty nasty unslave like behaviour on here as well,but that is life,and you judge the character of a person by how they handle strife much closer than the way they project themselves trying to put the good foot forward. i dislike anyone who gets off on mean-spiritness that hurts another for "sport". Joking,wise-cracking and being the ocasional smart ass can be done tastefully and you can have fun at it, many however need to buy a personality online and Think a bit before typing that there is someone with feelings on the other end of thier screen. What i dont get is the unowned, who are looking for theĀ  "right one" but act so wrong it isnt funny except to U/us the owned who Know that just wont work,,,,,lol~ jewels


If this was addressed to me, as it says it is in the lower corner of the post...

I don't claim to be a slave. I am not a brat. I like making my mates laugh by being sarcastic, they enjoy it...

I could care less if you think I am submissive, you are pixels, sweetie. In stead of trying to discern who is and who is not "slaverly" I suggest you worry about your own backyard.... Little advice, if you are so worried about everyone else and their level of submission, you might be neglecting your own.

BTW, I am not "owned", I am unattached. I like it that way for now....In fact I cannot imagine a universe where I would call someone "master" or "sir"...eventually i want the quote from leadership's sigline..."I want a man that is in charge, and deserves to be"... and I am kinky...


So now back to your regularly scheduled "One Twue Way"

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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 9:20:09 AM   
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You forgot to mention how bad you suck as a parking attendant.


So sad..........

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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 9:25:08 AM   
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You forgot to mention how bad you suck as a parking attendant.


So sad..........


I will just have to hope that some LordMasterSirGodoftheUniverse will overlook this shortcoming....

Edited to add.... this is what we call "sarcasm".... just in case people were unaware of how this comedy technique works.... just a little FYI

< Message edited by juliaoceania -- 6/22/2010 9:26:04 AM >


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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 9:30:48 AM   
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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 9:34:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sirsholly

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirsJewel

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff


quote:

ORIGINAL: SirsJewel

! i have seen some pretty nasty unslave like behaviour on here as well



Your kidding right?... you have seen unslave like behavior, on the internet?... I am stunned no SHOCKED.......

That anyone would take what is written here by folks who do not belong to other folks as a sign of how submissive they may or may not be.



Know how to read? i meant exactly what i said, a slave acting very un-slavelike in general manner,but i can certainly see me a slave being highly annoyed at your lack of a better time then to comment on a quote on such a small part of the comment. i suppose many of us have Masters who like a strong submissive with backbone ~ jewels
Jewel....it is not up to you to decide "unslave-like behavior". Many are like myself and submit to one only in a personal and private manner. When dealing with others, be it on the forums, in the workforce, friendships, etc, i am in no way submissive. Does that make me less of a submissive/slave? No, of course not. It means that i am wearing the hat of holly the poster/boss/employee/friend.

When you point a judgmental finger, there are three fingers pointing right back at you.






Actually when I point at someone I utilize more of a "gun like" form. I usually point with my right hand. My thumb is usually "pointing" in a direction slightly left of that of my intended target and somewhat curled over my middle finger. My middle finger is more or less curled up and thereby not pointing at me at all but would be more directed towards someone positioned slightly to my right and behind me. For some reason my other fingers being the good slaves and subbies that they are choose simply to follow suit.

I am sickened by the conduct of my ring and little finger....They will be caged later today.

So when I point a Judgmental finger, there are three fingers pointing at the fuck-up slightly behind me and a little off to my right. My thumb is directed towards the guy working in the manhole (no pun intended) slightly to my left and down aways in front of me.

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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 9:45:23 AM   
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Between that clear and concise explanation,and you ability to secure outstanding parking, have you ever considered a career as a submissive?


You realize everyone who reads that post will try it and conclude you are correct.

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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 9:53:41 AM   
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Between that clear and concise explanation,and you ability to secure outstanding parking, have you ever considered a career as a submissive?


You realize everyone who reads that post will try it and conclude you are correct.



No someone will definitely find a way to argue that it couldn't be possible. This is CM, arguing for the sake of arguing even when it's ridiculous is standard OP.

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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 10:16:23 AM   
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secure outstanding parking,


You see, since I hate driving, and currently gave my car to my mom so I could live my "Downtown - take-the -train" life... the criteria of "outstanding secure parking" was never delineated for me. So, the place I found was secure, but they were closed weekends, and my second choice cost 20 bucks for a few hours....if he had only defined for me what "good" parking was.....

I know, I am only trying to justify my failures as a submissive...


*runs from forum in tears* - SirsJewel is right - I suck


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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 10:20:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

*runs from forum in tears* - SirsJewel is right - I suck



That's ok, Julia, I admitted in a thread yesterday I'm a bad dom. It happens.

Wanna hook up?

Jeff

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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 10:31:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

secure outstanding parking,


You see, since I hate driving, and currently gave my car to my mom so I could live my "Downtown - take-the -train" life... the criteria of "outstanding secure parking" was never delineated for me. So, the place I found was secure, but they were closed weekends, and my second choice cost 20 bucks for a few hours....if he had only defined for me what "good" parking was.....

I know, I am only trying to justify my failures as a submissive...


*runs from forum in tears* - SirsJewel is right - I suck



hahaha, right.....I'm totally convinced you're upset about this, really.

I might be able to find parking, but hell if they ask me to cook I'm totally doomed. I'm so untrue.

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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 10:37:56 AM   
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I'm totally convinced you're upset about this, really.


You know, this is what they call "sarcasm".... which makes you a brat and unfit for human consumption

quote:

might be able to find parking, but hell if they ask me to cook I'm totally doomed. I'm so untrue.


We need a support group..."Submissives teaching Submissives"" ... this way we can help each other compensate for our deep failures as human beings. I could teach you to cook, you could teach me the fine art of how to find parking in Central Business District.... which would be handy since I live in one.

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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 10:39:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mstrjx


quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

*runs from forum in tears* - SirsJewel is right - I suck



That's ok, Julia, I admitted in a thread yesterday I'm a bad dom. It happens.

Wanna hook up?

Jeff


The only question is, do you think it is wise to base a dynamic on mutual failure?

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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 10:53:42 AM   
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Between that clear and concise explanation,and you ability to secure outstanding parking, have you ever considered a career as a submissive?


You realize everyone who reads that post will try it and conclude you are correct.
my pinkie doesn't curl as well as my ring finger.


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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 10:56:55 AM   
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That's probably from breaking yourself so often...stop that!

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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 11:01:25 AM   
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That's probably from breaking yourself so often...stop that!
actually...that pinkie is yet unfractured.

I must be slipping in my old age


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RE: the beauty of brattiness and sarcasm - 6/22/2010 12:34:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania


quote:

ORIGINAL: mstrjx


quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

*runs from forum in tears* - SirsJewel is right - I suck



That's ok, Julia, I admitted in a thread yesterday I'm a bad dom. It happens.

Wanna hook up?

Jeff


The only question is, do you think it is wise to base a dynamic on mutual failure?


It reminds me of that song 'Breakfast at Tiffany's'

'At least we had one thing in common'

Jeff

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