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You dont know whether he had historical standing as an oppressor. He may be of a line whose tribe oppressed another in Africa. Slavery is still practised there to this day, or is that to be forgotten because of his skin tone.

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Would it be worth asking if, say, William Wilberforce is one of the evil historical white guys who oppressed the black man at every opportunity? probably pointless as the Americans on here won't have heard of him, but Google is your friend.

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~FR~

Just to clarify, the equivalent of Negroid is not Caucasian, but Caucasoid....I'm a wordwhore as well

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I do have some understanding of American history, its British equivalent is little better. All nations have unpleasant histories. People living in the present should not be held accountable, or be made to feel guilty about what others did long ago.

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You link me and all whites to oppression of others,

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The point reveals you as a reverse racist.

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Those whites killed by other whites are not victims of race hate murder ! Fahy comes over as someone like you. Who wishes to muddy the waters.

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In 1999 the Commission for Racial Equality published a report that concluded that most racial crimes were committed against white people, although it pointed out that at the time white people made up 94 per cent of the population and that, proportionally, black and Asian people were still far more likely to be victims of race attacks.
 
The report suggested that white people might also be more likely to report a crime such as a street robbery carried out by a black person as a racial incident.

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If that is the tact of denial you wish to take then your sample of 24 victims is further reduced in size.

I don’t think they are in the sample. It Looks like an aside to me. The point I made was that 48% of race hate murder was committed by 6% or less of the population, and that the purps were non whites.



But nevermind that you are drawing large inferrences from a ludicrously tiny population sample,

It is a small sample yes. But those are the findings. I drew no large inferences. Within that study, non whites are more prone to race hate and extreme violence than are whites.

your argument seems to be that when the numbers are not what you say they are, they are not what the authorities say they are, so they are what you say they are.

More nonsense

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I do have some understanding of American history, its British equivalent is little better. All nations have unpleasant histories. People living in the present should not be held accountable, or be made to feel guilty about what others did long ago.

Herein is the proof that you have no concept of American history. The outrage against blacks continued into my lifetime. It is not just what others did a long time ago.

Pathetic but arrogant that you presume to comment upon American ethics and culture from a base of such colossal ignorance.

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You link me and all whites to oppression of others,

When you tell racist jokes, Yes! Stick to the issue of this thread, please.

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The point reveals you as a reverse racist.

OMG, there it is... the old reverse racism card... no one in the States has taken that seriously for decades. Why not just reach back down into your toilet and pull up the "white but right" turd as well?

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Still pretty grim though, 3 - 6% of the population responsible for 41.3 % of all race hate murders in a ten year period ending in 2004.

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Whites in the UK are 96% of the population. Asians are 3% and so are blacks- 3%. Asians are often said to be model citizens, although this is not entirely true.

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I do have some understanding of American history, its British equivalent is little better. All nations have unpleasant histories. People living in the present should not be held accountable, or be made to feel guilty about what others did long ago.

Herein is the proof that you have no concept of American history. The outrage against blacks continued into my lifetime. It is not just what others did a long time ago.

Pathetic but arrogant that you presume to comment upon American ethics and culture from a base of such colossal ignorance.

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You link me and all whites to oppression of others,

Of course it is still going on, and as we see, black racism is just as bad as that from whites

When you tell racist jokes, Yes! Stick to the issue of this thread, please.

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The point reveals you as a reverse racist.

OMG, there it is... the old reverse racism card... no one in the States has taken that seriously for decades. Why not just reach back down into your toilet and pull up the "white but right" turd as well?

It's still going on now, unless you're stupid enough to think that there isn't a racial element to this "birther" horseshit.
Maybe I should see if I can find a Prussian Blue video on youtube while we're on this?

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This is RC
 

This is someone else who has mastered bold type also



In the ten year year period to 2004, there were 58 race hate murders in the UK. 24 of the victims were white. Because they were race hate victims, they must have been killed by people of other races [non whites].

In the same period 34 non white people were killed in race hate murders. Because they were race hate victims, they must have been killed by people of other races [whites].

It is known that the UK population at present is composed of 94% white people. Blacks make up 3% of the population, the remaining 3% are Asians.

Therefore non whites are responsible for 41.3 % of race hate murder even though they are only 6% of the population.

Whites are responsible for 58.7% of race hate murder. Whites represent 94% of the population.

Non whites are therefore grossly over represented as murderers in this study.

That’s it. That’s all I am saying. I do not have any political axe to grind. I am merely pointing out that blacks are racist too, perhaps more so.

I am pointing it out because I am tired of reading the crap in here. Here I’ll say it again – Black people are just as racist as white people ! That is the point I am making. Nothing more.

Others here seek to point out that whites historically did awful things. They did. I agree. So too did blacks. It was blacks who sold other blacks into slavery. Why no mention of this ? I am simply tired of liberals and their ridiculous arguments.

All the peoples of the world have nasty histories. We all know that to be true.

The one who readily resorts to name calling, reminds me of one those medieval buffoons wandering around scourging themselves, for daring to be there in the first place. He can live like that if he wants to. I am happy to have a more balanced world view.


I do not accept that I, and other living white people are responsible for the dreadful events in history. I judge people for their behaviour, and not the behaviour of their ancestors. That is clearly ridiculous.

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