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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 3:36:53 PM   
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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 3:38:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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I'm not sure where the idea came from that Jesus died in vain. Its surely obvious even to a school child that he died in jerusalem?

Or has this thread come uv as a discussion of a vrinting error that pexed the author of the OV?

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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 3:49:38 PM   
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Drunk? No. Do you think I should be?

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Yes and I'll have a shot.


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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 3:56:51 PM   
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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 3:56:55 PM   
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I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to leave before you upset the customers......

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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 4:22:43 PM   
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Ooh! We cats dont refer to shots.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to leave before you upset the customers......

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They've been upset with me..I think I'll stay.


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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 4:35:18 PM   
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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 5:13:32 PM   
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Did you eat today?

If so- praise the lord!


are you comfortable if we choose to thank nature or the universe or the random?


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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 5:19:44 PM   
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Did you eat today?

If so- praise the lord!


are you comfortable if we choose to thank nature or the universe or the random?



NO!  I will not be comfortable until everyone knows how right I always am and the uber righteousness of all my right thinking and right methods and just the basic inherent righteous righteousness of how right I am! 


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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 5:19:59 PM   
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Did you eat today?

If so- praise the lord!


are you comfortable if we choose to thank nature or the universe or the random?




Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 5:22:13 PM   
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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 5:22:41 PM   
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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 5:28:10 PM   
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Drunk? No. Do you think I should be?
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I've never seen a drunk cat, if it's even half as funny as a drunk squirl, yes you absolutely should be.

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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 5:31:33 PM   
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a lich can rise from the dead unless you destroy it's phylactery...liches are in the Monster Manual...:p

Hence the theory that Zombie Jesus is the source of all forms of undead.
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Zombie_Jesus

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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 5:32:56 PM   
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Hence the theory that Zombie Jesus is the source of all forms of undead.


I sure do loves me some Zombie Jesus!


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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 7:36:19 PM   
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Given that it is said that Jesus died for our sins, I have to ask what was considered our sins and since Jesus died for our sins, have we repented our sins in reverence for Jesus's teachings ?

I'd have to say that under any version of the Jesus died for our sins argument, yes he died in vain since his father could have just said: hey guys I'm just going to wipe the slate clean, we're cool.

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There is a second school of thought, A, which holds that Jesus did not come to die for the sins of mankind but rather as a revelation of God's love for mankind whom He created. Just sayin'

Well, it seems like god's love of mankind could be better expressed by not having people brutally killed, so I'd have to say died in vain.

There's also scenario in which there is no god in which case he died in vain.

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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 8:14:41 PM   
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[I am glad it works for you, but it does get a bit complicated depending if you are Catholic or Evangelical. I hope someone will come along and steer me on this, me being a seriously interested atheist.
I hope someone will jump in and help me out here.


Who says you have to be any of those things to follow Jesus. I don't recall a single place where Jesus declared a religion. And as far as how to follow him, look at his teachings and not just the words but the "spirit" of his words. Love, brotherhood, helping the poor and sick. He talked alot about forgiveness and very little about condemnation. Even if you don't believe the story of his death and resurrection, his teachings still offer a moral path for living, without the dogma of religion.  


Take a second look, Lady C. Jesus was preaching the End of Days and seperated the sheep from the wolves, the least from the most, the first from the last, the saved from the condemned. It wasn't all love and roses yanno.

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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 8:19:44 PM   
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If there is a God and I believe there is...If you believe He has created all that we see in the universe then how can we as humans begin to understand a mind capable of doing those things?


returning to the OP and answering your question, maybe because it is so fucked up.

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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 8:26:07 PM   
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Well, it seems like god's love of mankind could be better expressed by not having people brutally killed, so I'd have to say died in vain.


I often wonder why He/She/It permits innocent little kids to die in earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and contaminated breakfast cereal.

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RE: Did Jesus die in vain ? - 6/27/2010 8:30:43 PM   
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Or failing that.

One can not know the mind of God.

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