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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

The lord works in mysterious ways.

Or failing that.

One can not know the mind of God.

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff
The lord works in mysterious ways.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

Take a second look, Lady C. Jesus was preaching the End of Days and seperated the sheep from the wolves, the least from the most, the first from the last, the saved from the condemned. It wasn't all love and roses yanno.

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

The lord works in mysterious ways.

Or failing that.

One can not know the mind of God.

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I love this answer!
That is the point, that is why I ignore 98% of these "chats".
If you are a mortal on this earth, you CANNOT ever really know the mind of the GODDESS/GOD.

I also enjoy all the mere mortals that claim they don't "believe that GOD exists" yet spend a lot, and I do mean
a lot of time trying to figure GODDESS/GOD out.
Like tony the tiger said...."it's greatttttttttttttttttttttt!"

I see many naysayers as little tiny fleas out in the universe, trying to use their pea brains to attempt to undestand the "cosmos".
There is someone so much greater than man, it is hard for a human brain to understand how great GODDESS is, much less even attempt to understand how the GODDESS thinks.

Lately, I don't find too much more amusing than pea brains that even think they could POSSIBLY have the brain matter, in their mere mortal/flea brains to have any idea how our CREATOR/GODDESS thinks.


I love those that have all the answers, yet really have no clue.

It is great to be a "Believer", I can't imagine living my life as a non-Believer.

As always/to each their own.

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ORIGINAL: DarlingSavage

You've got it all wrong!  There is only ONE path to heaven and that is through accepting Jesus Christ as your saviour and lord or else.  That's why I don't like christians. Well, some of my best friends are born agains, but still, I always know when I'm with them that they've got it in the back of their head that I'm going to hell cause I'm not saved.  As long as they're not trying to convert me, I'm ok with it, but when they start trying to save my soul, that's when the sparks fly.

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ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron
who says the one path is through accepting Jesus as your saviour?
JESUS didn't say that.
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ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron
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Who even said that the path leads to "heaven"?
Jesus didn't say that either.

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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
Jesus was a Rabbi

Please OH PLEASE, OH PLEASE tell me where it is said that Jesus held the position of Rabbi?

I am not disagreeing with you, like I said I don't actually believe he existed, I just want to know where it was ever noted that Jesus ACTUALLY Held the level of Rabbi.

Just list the Chapter and Verse is all I ask. Mostly because as I understand the bible, Jesus was primarily Anti-religious, finding ALL religions to be flawed because you could worship his father ANYWHERE no house was needed.

QSM

And Jesus answered and said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.” And he said, “Rabbi, what is it?” (Luke 7:40)

A lawyer asked him a question to test him: “Rabbi, what is the greatest commandment in the Torah?” (Matthew 22:35-36)

And behold, a [rich] man came up to him and said, “Rabbi, what good thing must I do to have eternal life?” (Matthew 19:16)

And someone in the crowd said to him, “Rabbi, order my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” (Luke 12:13)

And some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to him, “Rabbi, rebuke your disciples.” (Luke 19:39)

Some of the Sadducees came up to him…and they asked him, saying, “Rabbi….” (Luke 20:27-28)

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ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron

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ORIGINAL: DarlingSavage

You've got it all wrong!  There is only ONE path to heaven and that is through accepting Jesus Christ as your saviour and lord or else.  That's why I don't like christians. Well, some of my best friends are born agains, but still, I always know when I'm with them that they've got it in the back of their head that I'm going to hell cause I'm not saved.  As long as they're not trying to convert me, I'm ok with it, but when they start trying to save my soul, that's when the sparks fly.

who says the one path is through accepting Jesus as your saviour?
JESUS didn't say that.
Who even said that the path leads to "heaven"?
Jesus didn't say that either.

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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

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ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron
who says the one path is through accepting Jesus as your saviour?
JESUS didn't say that.
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John 14:6 - Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me"

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ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron
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Who even said that the path leads to "heaven"?
Jesus didn't say that either.

Matt.19:21 - Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

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ORIGINAL: DarlingSavage

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ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron

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ORIGINAL: DarlingSavage

You've got it all wrong!  There is only ONE path to heaven and that is through accepting Jesus Christ as your saviour and lord or else.  That's why I don't like christians. Well, some of my best friends are born agains, but still, I always know when I'm with them that they've got it in the back of their head that I'm going to hell cause I'm not saved.  As long as they're not trying to convert me, I'm ok with it, but when they start trying to save my soul, that's when the sparks fly.

who says the one path is through accepting Jesus as your saviour?
JESUS didn't say that.
Who even said that the path leads to "heaven"?
Jesus didn't say that either.

You so missed my point.  It went right over your head!  Next time, you should try reading the whole statement instead of the first couple words.

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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

I know for a fact (NO faith nor belief) that the earth will rotate, causing the appearance of the sun rising. If y'all want to have faith that will happen, I'd like you to explain what you mean that is different than my knowledge that it
will happen. 

Simple:  There is no difference

(That alone is good for 10 pages at least - and a drift as well.)  You mean you believe the sun will rise, but you're not sure?  Silly rabbits.... what a fearful way to live your life.  Praying that the sun will come back at Easter time.... or more precisely, celebrating the FACT of the Spring Equinox.  Etc.....  as I said above, g'nite. (Local time = 11:45 PM)

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No I didn't miss your point. I know you were being sarcastic. I was addressing that the very reason you don't like Christians is also the very reason why I don't like them either. Erroneous teachings.

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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

And to continue the Salvation through Christ nonsense, we're going to throw in the (apparent) contradiction of Salvation through Good Works.  Now, don't tell me it's some mish-mash of both.  You must pick one or the other.

Or you could reject both. Jesus (if he did exist) never said either. Both sides of that were arguments put forth by Paul and James.

BTW- Jesus was not only quoted in the Bible, He also quoted in the Qur'an, the gnostic gosples, the dead sea scrolls,  and The book of Mormon.

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ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

Take a second look, Lady C. Jesus was preaching the End of Days and seperated the sheep from the wolves, the least from the most, the first from the last, the saved from the condemned. It wasn't all love and roses yanno.

True, but for the first time in history the least, the last and the condemned were not determined by money, social status or religious dogma.. His Ministry was to and for beggars, lepers, thieves, prostitutes; the rejects of society; the ones the church had written off as hellbound.

"the spirit of the Lord is upon me for He hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor." Luke 4:18
 
Matt. 20:16  "the last shall be first and the first shall be last."

He didn't condemn the woman caught in adultery, he condemned the self righteous men who tried to kill her.  He chose the poor widow with 2 mites over the rich man who gave tons of money to the church. See the poor were not even considered worthy of the church because they couldn't afford to pay the high offerings. Anyone pronounced a sinner was also banned from the church and often their children and grandchildren. Those are the ones Jesus wanted.

He wanted no part of religion and openly denounced it and the leaders of it. He called the religious leaders dead and unclean in Matt 23:27."woe unto you scribes and pharisees. hypocrites!" That entire rant he did in that chapter was to tear down religious dogma. So make no mistake he did come to separate sheep from wolves, but the wolves were the religious ones leading the church. He called the church leaders snakes and vipers and told them that they would not escape hell. (Matt. 23:33)

These radical views are what got him killed. I am convinced they would get him killed today too.