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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 8:40:43 AM

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I see no problem with her having feelings for a past boyfriend. It actually shows she is not coldhearted, in my opinion. You can't control the human heart. She can, however, control her intentions and her behavior. LYING is unacceptable. I would take away the phone after explaining that trust is earned, and right now she needs to earn yours. I would ask if she has a track record of dishonesty or of white lies. I would explain to her that talking things out with you openly and honestly will lead to more intimacy and having her daddy as an ally, and lying, no matter how small the lie, destroys intimacy.

Bad flippin move. While it (hopefully) gets her to obey in not contacting the ex boyfriend, it also takes her out of communication with everyone else. This is a gal who just recently picked up and moved away from her family and friends to be with him. That is effective in adding to any feelings that she might be having about being homesick, which isn't going to help the situation. Plus, if she is going to re-establish her life in a new place, she's going to need to have contact info.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 9:15:54 AM

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I see no problem with her having feelings for a past boyfriend. It actually shows she is not coldhearted, in my opinion. You can't control the human heart. She can, however, control her intentions and her behavior. LYING is unacceptable. I would take away the phone after explaining that trust is earned, and right now she needs to earn yours. I would ask if she has a track record of dishonesty or of white lies. I would explain to her that talking things out with you openly and honestly will lead to more intimacy and having her daddy as an ally, and lying, no matter how small the lie, destroys intimacy.

Bad flippin move. While it (hopefully) gets her to obey in not contacting the ex boyfriend, it also takes her out of communication with everyone else. This is a gal who just recently picked up and moved away from her family and friends to be with him. That is effective in adding to any feelings that she might be having about being homesick, which isn't going to help the situation. Plus, if she is going to re-establish her life in a new place, she's going to need to have contact info.

In addition to what LP so elegantly pointed out... there is also the fact that the bond between submissive and Dom are still very new, where as I see people wanting to punish this activity, he said "Don't do this." and she did that, I seems normal enough to just punish it, or kick her to the curb as damaged property.

I would look at this and see a submissive/little girl who is in need of guidance, someone who needs some order and direction, I would also really want to know why she felt the need to disobey me, finding out WHY it was done is sometimes MUCH more valuable than punishing her because she did.

The relationship is so new, perhaps the new guy presented a threat, real or imagined and perhaps the order to not contact him was made a little too hastily, made before other baselines were made, hell I don't know, I just think that there is something more important to be had here than a punished submissive/little girl and a Dominant who still doesn't really know WHY he is punishing the girl other than he said not to do something and she did anyway.

If we kick every sub to the curb when they fuck up, or punish ever sub when they fuck up, I think you end up with a bunch of single bruised subs who still don't have a real understanding of what really went wrong, sure they screwed up but do they even know why? Sure some do, some know exactly what they were doing when they did it, I think few of them did it intending to be punished or kicked to the curb, some may have I'm sure. The thing remains where does the pattern stop, even if not with a particular sub but with the idea of screw up, how to punish, how about screw up, why'd they screw up?

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 10:38:33 AM

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In addition to what LP so elegantly pointed out...

Ok, now I've got a picture in my mind. LadyPact, punctuating her points with a silver cigarette holder, while speaking in a very posh voice.

Or did you mean...eloquent?

*runs*

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 10:44:39 AM

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The thing remains where does the pattern stop, even if not with a particular sub but with the idea of screw up, how to punish, how about screw up, why'd they screw up?

QSM

there are so many answers to that and so many layers too.

but ill pick this one:

for some i think it takes a time to realise that this is a relationship that needs to be worked on through communication and basic relationship skills. but too often both communication and relationship skills get left behind. for some it really is that black and white 'do i punish or kick her out' - how valuable is a sub to a Dominant if being kicked out trumps sitting down and talking it through and working together to prevent a thing happening again.

it seems to me that personal responsibility gets left behind too - if its all so black and white there is no need to scrutinize the why or how. she disobeyed, bin her.

im sure that if he does bin her she'll go away knowing that the part she played was in being dishonest. a sharp lesson but there you go. no harm no foul in some respects. she'll go back to her parents and her boyfriend and no doubt look for another daddy before long.

the Dom however, what would he have learnt, nothing to be honest - he'll remain in his dogma that a sub obeys or gets binned because thats his black and white perspective.

and in the end what have you had, two passing ships who failed to take the trouble to understand the other but since no emotional investment has been made, clearly, or he wouldnt have asked this question in the first place, neither one has lost a whole lot or even learned a whole lot.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 10:48:55 AM

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Ok, now I've got a picture in my mind. LadyPact, punctuating her points with a silver cigarette holder, while speaking in a very posh voice.

Or did you mean...eloquent?

*runs*

All right, you. Somebody let HM know that a certain gal is in need of a maintenance spanking. I hear that is the perfect solution for being cheeky, improves focus, etc.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 10:50:32 AM

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In addition to what LP so elegantly pointed out...

Ok, now I've got a picture in my mind. LadyPact, punctuating her points with a silver cigarette holder, while speaking in a very posh voice.

Or did you mean...eloquent?

*runs*

Ummm No I am Dominant DAMNIT, from now on just switch those two definitions!!!

Yeah, Cause I said it the whole world needs to unlearn what that means.

(I actually have a bad habit of mixing those two up... It's Bad, I know what I want to say.... my brain just tells me this is the word I wan.... BAD .. BAD BRAIN!!!)

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 10:52:15 AM

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Ok, now I've got a picture in my mind. LadyPact, punctuating her points with a silver cigarette holder, while speaking in a very posh voice.

Or did you mean...eloquent?

*runs*

All right, you. Somebody let HM know that a certain gal is in need of a maintenance spanking. I hear that is the perfect solution for being cheeky, improves focus, etc.

Ok, I'll let him know "that girl" is in need of a spanking!

*innocent look*

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 10:53:46 AM

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HA! I come close but I am not gonna do the math to be sure.

Math? You know a thread has derailed TOO far off topic, if math weasels its way into the thread.

True. I will save my ciphering talk for meals at the fancy eatin table from now on.

Please forgive me.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 10:54:13 AM

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The thing remains where does the pattern stop, even if not with a particular sub but with the idea of screw up, how to punish, how about screw up, why'd they screw up?

QSM

there are so many answers to that and so many layers too.

but ill pick this one:

for some i think it takes a time to realise that this is a relationship that needs to be worked on through communication and basic relationship skills. but too often both communication and relationship skills get left behind. for some it really is that black and white 'do i punish or kick her out' - how valuable is a sub to a Dominant if being kicked out trumps sitting down and talking it through and working together to prevent a thing happening again.

it seems to me that personal responsibility gets left behind too - if its all so black and white there is no need to scrutinize the why or how. she disobeyed, bin her.

im sure that if he does bin her she'll go away knowing that the part she played was in being dishonest. a sharp lesson but there you go. no harm no foul in some respects. she'll go back to her parents and her boyfriend and no doubt look for another daddy before long.

the Dom however, what would he have learnt, nothing to be honest - he'll remain in his dogma that a sub obeys or gets binned because thats his black and white perspective.

and in the end what have you had, two passing ships who failed to take the trouble to understand the other but since no emotional investment has been made, clearly, or he wouldnt have asked this question in the first place, neither one has lost a whole lot or even learned a whole lot.

Thank you for this lally2, this is how I see it as well. I just feel rather than continuing that cycle by telling him to shit can the girl or telling him no matter what he does it is doomed to fail, I would point out how he can turn the situation into something that bonds them tighter than any punishment would.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 2:06:32 PM

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Do some looking in to a skill known as 'warm reading'. I see people do some really awful attempts at it on these forums. But its a real skill, and people can be profiled by what they tell you about themselves. You just have to be careful not to project yourself into the mix.

Wow.. are you seriously saying that you can do a warm reading on the basis of a person's posts to a forum? The little I know about warm reading suggests that it really needs to be done face to face...

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 2:07:58 PM

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QSM - You could always have meant both "elegant" and "eloquent" ;-)

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 2:32:16 PM

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Do some looking in to a skill known as 'warm reading'. I see people do some really awful attempts at it on these forums. But its a real skill, and people can be profiled by what they tell you about themselves. You just have to be careful not to project yourself into the mix.

Wow..... are you seriously saying you can do a warm reading on the basis of a person's post to a forum? The little I know about warm reading suggests that it really needs to be done face to face..

ive never heard of warm reading but i do read between the lines and im better at it with the written word than face to face. people often give themselves away without realising they are with the written word, whereas face to face we learn to guard our voice, expressions and often choose our words carefully. oddly enough people dont always when theyre writing. but i can pick up a whole lot more from what a person has not written between the lines of what they have written.

i think people think that all theyre doing is sharing what theyve written and so it gives an unguarded window into a whole load of other stuff too sometimes.

not that i do this all of the time or even in a sneaky, nosey way, just sometimes it kinda hits me between the eyes.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 3:02:07 PM

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lally2,

Cold and Warm Readings are a form of Psychology used to make it appear that you have either previous knowledge of a person or that you are slowly getting information about someone. It is used by people who claim to speak to the dead, and it was what P.T. Barnum used to convince people that he was “All Knowing”.

The Psychology of it takes what is considered Universal Psychology, using things that seem specific but usually apply to all people. If you look in the news paper and read your horoscope you will see the most common form of what is known as Selective Validation, most commonly connected with the Barnum Effect or Barnum Posturing. The Idea is that if I look at your Body Language to the way I say certain things I can determine who in the audience will most likely associate themselves with what I just said. Once I have them all I have to do is look them in the eyes and check their reactions, the way the eye moves the way the throat looks when it swallows, the direction their eyes go when they recall a memory. All of these things are used when making a Cold Reading.

When making a Warm Reading, you are banking on the fact that someone WANTS to tell on themselves, it is what many Psychics use to appear to know your deep dark secrets, in most cases you went to the Psychic to confess them by being found out anyway.

When I did Palm Reading and Tarot Reading as a way to make Beer and Food Money in my early 20’s Cold Reading and Warm Reading were how I did it. Palm Reading although can be called a Science of sorts when you read someone’s palm they are looking to learn something SPECIAL about themselves. Reality is with a cold read you can tell them EXACTLY what they want to hear. With a Tarot Read it’s a Warm Reading, you put certain things out there and wait till something causes a response.

NOW, why did I type all that out?

crazyml and I were not saying you cannot get a read off what someone types in a post, rather Cold Reading and Warm Reading are IMPOSSIBLE to do in the written form, there are too many things you rely on when doing them that cannot be gotten through a Text based conversation.

An “Interview” can be done which will give you a good idea where a person is coming from, maybe even find some markers that will tell you how to throw him on tilt, but without seeing his reaction to the verbal stimuli that you produce, or the written stimuli, all you are doing is throwing guesses, and not really educated ones at that.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 3:13:14 PM

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An “Interview” can be done which will give you a good idea where a person is coming from, maybe even find some markers that will tell you how to throw him on tilt, but without seeing his reaction to the verbal stimuli that you produce, or the written stimuli, all you are doing is throwing guesses, and not really educated ones at that.
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I agree with everything you said except that very last part. It is quite possible to make a very educated guess from the written words. When I post a response to an OP, I look not simply at what they wrote, but how they wrote it, as well as reading their profile, journal posts, etc. to get a feel for who they are. If I'm not mistaken, you do this yourself when responding to many posts.

It is an entirely different way of "reading" someone for sure. But it is not that difficult to get a tone from the way someone writes and make an educated guess as to what might be going on.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 3:32:30 PM

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An “Interview” can be done which will give you a good idea where a person is coming from, maybe even find some markers that will tell you how to throw him on tilt, but without seeing his reaction to the verbal stimuli that you produce, or the written stimuli, all you are doing is throwing guesses, and not really educated ones at that.
QSM

I agree with everything you said except that very last part. It is quite possible to make a very educated guess from the written words. When I post a response to an OP, I look not simply at what they wrote, but how they wrote it, as well as reading their profile, journal posts, etc. to get a feel for who they are. If I'm not mistaken, you do this yourself when responding to many posts.

It is an entirely different way of "reading" someone for sure. But it is not that difficult to get a tone from the way someone writes and make an educated guess as to what might be going on.

I also agree with what you have said, and yes I do, tend to do what you described, with a slight difference, I try really hard not to assume "How" they wrote it, I try really hard not to Guess the mood, or the emotion.... In TYPE. In a Letter that is a different matter as writing style changes its look physically when a person is in one mood from the other, you need other writings where the mood is obvious from letters to mom and dad and letters to a lover to determine it. When it comes to Hard Text such as what is presented here where all the letters and writing style tends to be uniform, making guesses on emotion and mental state can lead you into modeling your own assumptions.

For instance when I read your writing I pretend you sound like Jane Seymour reading a documentary. I do this so that I never assume you are yelling or angry, there just aren’t enough markers to determine that, I do this with just about everyone, I try really hard not to read into tone or intention, too many variable that don’t get taken into account. For instance I assume you are well educated but I don’t know enough about you to know for sure this means that in your writing if you are trying to sound intelligent you will use more connective words and although you try to not use the same word over and over you may tilt toward the 3 dollar words with as many syllables as possible. Now without knowing your Actual level of Education, One reads as educated the other as Insecure. In certain written texts the two can look very similar.

In any which way, Saying one has used a Cold or Warm Reading to on written text to make an educated guess is in my opinion which I will admit for what I studied is still limited, is not possible, but I do believe that with enough source material written word can in fact offer educated guesses about people. Otherwise Hand writing experts would kind of be silly wouldn’t they?

QSM

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 5:14:50 PM

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To the OP: did you ever hear the following expressions?

1. "How you get 'em is how she'll leave you?

2. Translated from the Yiddish "When the prick stands up, the mind goes blank".

Observation: there is at least the appearance of disrespect in this relationship. She disrespects you by not being honest; you express disrespect by saying "I'm the only one banging her".

Without respect, you have no relationship.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 5:16:02 PM

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QSM- I wouldn't brag about having been a professional thief and bullshit artist. The fact that this was the best way you could find to use and/or validate your skills seems to indicate that you aren't really that good at it. You can do readings from personalized texts, and you can do it from IM. Your "assumption of neutral posturing" is just a backdoor way of saying you just don't have the skill. You know full well that no one is sitting neutrally at their keyboard so why would you assume anything of the kind? You are basically claiming that throwing out information is somehow useful and wise, and that since you can't read into people without body language, that no one else possibly could.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 5:35:45 PM

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QSM- I wouldn't brag about having been a professional thief and bullshit artist. The fact that this was the best way you could find to use and/or validate your skills seems to indicate that you aren't really that good at it. You can do readings from personalized texts, and you can do it from IM. Your "assumption of neutral posturing" is just a backdoor way of saying you just don't have the skill. You know full well that no one is sitting neutrally at their keyboard so why would you assume anything of the kind? You are basically claiming that throwing out information is somehow useful and wise, and that since you can't read into people without body language, that no one else possibly could.

Feel as you will, I know enough to tell you without a doubt that if you claim that you can you are lying.

The assumption of tone in a Font Based Textual medium due to the fact that the text itself cannot show emotional tags such as pressure in writing (How hard the push on the pen), Length of hanging Tags (G-Y-J-S-T-L-P-Q), direction of Punctuation, without these things you are more inclined to address your reaction to someone's Text, than actually discover what they are feeling.

The Ability to Cold Read, or Warm Read requires a call and responce session, This is what is known as an Interview. This is where you get to make assumptions of your subject and then through call and answer you get a feel for the Posture that your Barnum Statements should take. Focus on a Mental, a Physical, or an Emotional base line.

The Problem with doing this with text,(And by Text I mean what you are reading now, NOT handwriting, hand writing can be read but to be done acurately and create a Profile on a person it usually required multiple pieces of hand writing) Hard Text, quite literally is emotionless. You can Guess at an emotion, but as I pointed out the emotion that you want for a Cold or Warm reading is not a Base emotion, I do not care about Mad, Glad, Sad, and Angry. In a Reading I am looking for Guilt, Sorrow, Passion, ambiguity, with these and a few call and responce I can get them to tell me everything I need to know and have them think I told them first.

You can Call me a Thief or a Bullshit Artist, I can admit that, I admit that I entertained people by having them believe I was Psychic. Can you admit to lying? Because the more you try to pull THIS particular CON, well I know enough to call your bluff, so far you haven't offered anything much to dispute that you don't know as much about this as you are claiming.

SPECIFICALLY, Cold and Warm Readings CAN NOT be done without having the subject in your direct vicinity. You do not have to be directly speaking to them, Many cold readers do it in teams, however when doing it in teams unless the verbal cues are very hidden the subject will assume that the person they just told thier secrets to told the person who is revealing them.

QSM

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 5:53:15 PM

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But people don't take my word for it like I am some Mysterious Yogi.

Learn for Yourself.

http://www.wikihow.com/Cold-Read

http://www.skepdic.com/warmreading.html

http://www.skepdic.com/barnum.html

http://www.skepdic.com/subjectivevalidation.html

http://www.skepdic.com/selectiv.html

http://www.handwritinginsights.com/
(this one is trying to sell you something but the info they offer on the front page is illuminating)

http://www.cch.kcl.ac.uk/legacy/teaching/av1000/textanalysis/method.html
(this is not exactly what I wanted but it gives a lot of the same information. Text Analysis is possible in telling you perhaps the genre of writing...but very little about the emotion behind the writing, not listed here the reason that was given in the article I was looking for but could not find is that Typed Text is Uniform and carries not actual emotion of it's own. I can State that I am Angry in text... I can Imply that I am angry in text using key words and phrases, but that is no guarantee that I am actually feeling that way.)

I also have books on Jung, Hoffen, Bates you name it. all you need is a basic understanding of how the process works to start to see why you can't do cold or warm readings from someone's text, even if you were doing it in an Instant Message, and could do a complete interview, you still can't watch how they react to what you have asked them so the Barnum Posturing which is a LARGE part of Cold Reads can be done.

QSM

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/4/2010 5:58:45 PM

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My mom grew up at the carny (my grandfather's part time job) and she can do all that stuff too! But I will spare her this thread.

Which has made me snork!! very loudly. Because teenagers are teenagers, and while I was a very mature and astute young person, most are NOT. That whole cause-effect thing, for instance. LOST on the average teen. Why this girl would want to bang her grandpa, I really don't know. I hope she is enjoying it.

I like these kinds of threads!

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