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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:34:44 PM   
LadyPact


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im very disappointed by the moderation system right now- i think they have failed us all.

when a two minute thread costs me 2 months, you have to question the system. there was no ill intent behind it or desire to offend anyone whatsoever... if it was deemed out of bounds, it should have been locked or deleted. for me to be banned without the slightest warning is not right.


the bottom line is that this board exists because of posters, not moderators. they should function as public servants, not overlords.




Without the keepers of the peace, there is anarchy.  There would be no boards for the posters without the Mods.  You've only started using them recently, but I'm here to tell you, in the three and a half years that I've been here, there have been some posters that pulled some crap that was so bad that I hesitate to even repeat it. 

Frankly, some of the things you post are downright offensive and I don't believe that there is no ill intent behind them.  You are specifically on a BDSM site and the "S" really does stand for sadism.  Yet, at every possible opportunity, you attack those of us who identify as sadists at every turn, even calling us abusers in underhanded ways.  I'd almost hate to hear your opinion on how you would describe those who are into age play.

What you seem to forget is, the kinks that interest you can be just as destructive (if done improperly), if not more damaging.  That the recipients of such kinds of play could just as easily labeled as imbalanced, low self-esteem individuals who really just want someone to expose them from their facade of the way they face the world, and tear them apart for how worthless they really believe they are inside.  How they need their bit of kink to help keep them stable because otherwise, it takes over their existence, and finally consumes them because their own self doubt slowly eats away at them.  If they don't get to express their genuine feelings of how insignificant they really are, the world will see through the image they try to present, and those same feelings will make them self destruct.

But you don't see people attacking your kink in such an offensive way on the boards as you have done on several occasions about sadism.  That's why you got nailed with whatever restriction (not banned, as you really are still here) you received.  I'm even willing to bet that I'm not the only person who's been involved in wiitwd since before you had pubes who is glad you got the electronic version of a ball gag slapped on you.  Had it been real life, you probably would have been tossed out on your ear.


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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:34:51 PM   
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2) of course i want to communicate with you. i think a lack of communication is the source of any problems that we had. i assumed based on my experience on other boards that moderation was reserved for worst case scenarios. i also assumed that i would be warned when i came close to having problematic conduct. if i would have known you had problems with me, i would definitely have found a way to make it right.


Kid, if any of that is true, you got a raw deal, moderation should be progressive and educational, not reactive and over the top. Many of your posts violated the TOS for the forums but for whatever reason, that was overlooked.

< Message edited by SimplyMichael -- 7/8/2010 11:37:27 PM >

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:35:20 PM   
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and made a lot of friends.


Name three.  Hell, name ONE.

Cali



I didn't think sock puppets actually count as friends.

<sigh>

Maybe they do in his little world.

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:37:04 PM   
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Submissivemale22,

Reading this and reading what you said to Ishtar, I feel right now you are being about as genuine as a 3 dollar bill.

QSM

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:40:54 PM   
Elisabella


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Little hint- STOP TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE WHERE AND WHAT THEY CAN OR CANNOT POST! Seriously dude, it's obvious to anyone who isn't you that you have a fucking agenda that says "Male Doms are abusive bastards, men should NOT hit women!!!!" Well fuck you, because some of us ENJOY that kind of thing! Get over it already!


Are you trying to tell him what he can or cannot post?

Or is this just a strongly worded suggestion?

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:41:52 PM   
BentUnit


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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

Submissivemale22,

Reading this and reading what you said to Ishtar, I feel right now you are being about as genuine as a 3 dollar bill.

QSM


Submissivemale's posts in that thread were disgusting.
I think that Ishtar handled him very well considering just how personal he got.
I wouldn't have handled him with as much patience as she did.

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:45:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

quote:

ORIGINAL: submissivemale22
2) of course i want to communicate with you. i think a lack of communication is the source of any problems that we had. i assumed based on my experience on other boards that moderation was reserved for worst case scenarios. i also assumed that i would be warned when i came close to having problematic conduct. if i would have known you had problems with me, i would definitely have found a way to make it right.


Kid, if any of that is true, you got a raw deal, moderation should be progressive and educational, not reactive and over the top. Many of your posts violated the TOS for the forums but for whatever reason, that was overlooked.


it is all true, and i appreciate you standing tall on this despite our past differences. because of a lack of warning i was embracing a sense of security that turned out to be false.

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:47:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BentUnit

quote:

ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

Submissivemale22,

Reading this and reading what you said to Ishtar, I feel right now you are being about as genuine as a 3 dollar bill.

QSM


Submissivemale's posts in that thread were disgusting.
I think that Ishtar handled him very well considering just how personal he got.
I wouldn't have handled him with as much patience as she did.



Ishtar is a lady of class... and I agree what was said was vile and really dimunitive... I feel that the Sm22 he has proved himself to be when NOT in the lime light is the REAL Sm22.

I do however believe in second, and even third chances.... I think his desire to stay is sign that he is at very least willing to play by the rules... I do however think that a Mod's decision should not be trivialized in such a way... 2 months was the load I think he should sit it... and if he REALLY is rehibilitated then he will have learned his lesson quickly and will return in 60 days and not make infractions again.

If what he said is true and he was never contacted before moderation, and if he has a good reason for doing what he did that got him the 60 day ban then maybe it could be discussed by the Mods and Admins and maybe reach a fitting punishment.

All that being said I will again state I am okay with the decisions of the Mods that gave the 60 day Moderation.

QSM

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:48:33 PM   
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Are you trying to tell him what he can or cannot post?
Or is this just a strongly worded suggestion?

As I said in my post, it was a hint. As you know, the fastest way to get people's backs up around here is to tell them that they shouldn't post in a thread due to their sex/ orientation.




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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:50:16 PM   
submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: BentUnit

quote:

ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

Submissivemale22,

Reading this and reading what you said to Ishtar, I feel right now you are being about as genuine as a 3 dollar bill.

QSM


Submissivemale's posts in that thread were disgusting.
I think that Ishtar handled him very well considering just how personal he got.
I wouldn't have handled him with as much patience as she did.



this is her post the next day on the source of your disgust:

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3275824

< Message edited by submissivemale22 -- 7/8/2010 11:51:09 PM >

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:54:10 PM   
BentUnit


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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan


quote:

ORIGINAL: BentUnit

quote:

ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

Submissivemale22,

Reading this and reading what you said to Ishtar, I feel right now you are being about as genuine as a 3 dollar bill.

QSM


Submissivemale's posts in that thread were disgusting.
I think that Ishtar handled him very well considering just how personal he got.
I wouldn't have handled him with as much patience as she did.



Ishtar is a lady of class... and I agree what was said was vile and really dimunitive... I feel that the Sm22 he has proved himself to be when NOT in the lime light is the REAL Sm22.

I do however believe in second, and even third chances.... I think his desire to stay is sign that he is at very least willing to play by the rules... I do however think that a Mod's decision should not be trivialized in such a way... 2 months was the load I think he should sit it... and if he REALLY is rehibilitated then he will have learned his lesson quickly and will return in 60 days and not make infractions again.

If what he said is true and he was never contacted before moderation, and if he has a good reason for doing what he did that got him the 60 day ban then maybe it could be discussed by the Mods and Admins and maybe reach a fitting punishment.

All that being said I will again state I am okay with the decisions of the Mods that gave the 60 day Moderation.

QSM


QSM,

I find it had to believe he wasn't mod spanked AT ALL.
Actually I think it's an out and out lie to try to provoke sympathy of the masses.
The "What did I do?" and the "They did me wrong!" pleas just don't tally with what you and I know of the Moderation here on CM and the wording of the sites TOS.


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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:57:24 PM   
submissivemale22


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: submissivemale22

im very disappointed by the moderation system right now- i think they have failed us all.

when a two minute thread costs me 2 months, you have to question the system. there was no ill intent behind it or desire to offend anyone whatsoever... if it was deemed out of bounds, it should have been locked or deleted. for me to be banned without the slightest warning is not right.


the bottom line is that this board exists because of posters, not moderators. they should function as public servants, not overlords.





Frankly, some of the things you post are downright offensive and I don't believe that there is no ill intent behind them.  You are specifically on a BDSM site and the "S" really does stand for sadism.  Yet, at every possible opportunity, you attack those of us who identify as sadists at every turn, even calling us abusers in underhanded ways.  I'd almost hate to hear your opinion on how you would describe those who are into age play.




to be honest before last week i thought/assumed that the SM part of BDSM stood for "slave master"...

as far as my comments on it, i apologized and stopped doing it. prior to coming here i had never ever encountered someone who identified as a sadist... i didnt know what it was and i found it abhorrent because i could conceptualize anyone subjecting themselves to that (or wanting to administer that). if it didnt interest you, and your initial exposure to it was on an internet board, i think you might have reacted just as vociferously as i did.

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:58:42 PM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
As I said in my post, it was a hint. As you know, the fastest way to get people's backs up around here is to tell them that they shouldn't post in a thread due to their sex/ orientation.

In My personal opinion, this exact reply would be perfectly suited on one of the current threads on the Master board.


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Beach Ball Sized Lady Nuts. ~ TWD

Happily dating a new submissive. It's official. I've named him engie.

Please do not send me email here. Unless I know you, I will delete the email unread

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/8/2010 11:59:48 PM   
submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: BentUnit

quote:

ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan


quote:

ORIGINAL: BentUnit

quote:

ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

Submissivemale22,

Reading this and reading what you said to Ishtar, I feel right now you are being about as genuine as a 3 dollar bill.

QSM


Submissivemale's posts in that thread were disgusting.
I think that Ishtar handled him very well considering just how personal he got.
I wouldn't have handled him with as much patience as she did.



Ishtar is a lady of class... and I agree what was said was vile and really dimunitive... I feel that the Sm22 he has proved himself to be when NOT in the lime light is the REAL Sm22.

I do however believe in second, and even third chances.... I think his desire to stay is sign that he is at very least willing to play by the rules... I do however think that a Mod's decision should not be trivialized in such a way... 2 months was the load I think he should sit it... and if he REALLY is rehibilitated then he will have learned his lesson quickly and will return in 60 days and not make infractions again.

If what he said is true and he was never contacted before moderation, and if he has a good reason for doing what he did that got him the 60 day ban then maybe it could be discussed by the Mods and Admins and maybe reach a fitting punishment.

All that being said I will again state I am okay with the decisions of the Mods that gave the 60 day Moderation.

QSM


QSM,

I find it had to believe he wasn't mod spanked AT ALL.
Actually I think it's an out and out lie to try to provoke sympathy of the masses.
The "What did I do?" and the "They did me wrong!" pleas just don't tally with what you and I know of the Moderation here on CM and the wording of the sites TOS.




you really think i would be posting something that required approval if it wasn't true?

and im NOT blaming the moderators for not holding my hand through the posting process... i just didnt know where the line was until it was crossed.

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:01:13 AM   
AQuietSimpleMan


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You aren't getting it. You are being seriously Dense.

quote:

It was mostly all jest and a friendly game of "cat and mouse" giving me some much needed exercise at trying to come up with decent comebacks in an obtuse and exorbitant manner.

Maybe it's just me, but I really enjoy picking on people that way... especially when I end up winning.


Do you not get that she did not LIKE what you were saying, she just didn't REACT to what you were saying. She found what you had to say Obtuse and Exorbitantly Mannered..... Do you think these are GOOD things?

What you Implied to her, when you said she was basically an Idiot for going to another country for a Master was SO OUT OF LINE. You just don't get it.

You really are Vapid.... this is also not a compliment, look it up.... Just because she didn't get a rise out of you DOES NOT MAKE WHAT YOU DID OKAY.

If you cannot get this then there has been no rehibilitation, all this nice shit is Bullshit, and you deserve far more than 60 days. You should leave... and the fact that someone has to point this out to you is a sign of your inability to tell the difference between acceptable and unacceptable.

QSM

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:03:25 AM   
submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan


quote:

ORIGINAL: BentUnit

quote:

ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

Submissivemale22,

Reading this and reading what you said to Ishtar, I feel right now you are being about as genuine as a 3 dollar bill.

QSM


Submissivemale's posts in that thread were disgusting.
I think that Ishtar handled him very well considering just how personal he got.
I wouldn't have handled him with as much patience as she did.



Ishtar is a lady of class... and I agree what was said was vile and really dimunitive... I feel that the Sm22 he has proved himself to be when NOT in the lime light is the REAL Sm22.

I do however believe in second, and even third chances.... I think his desire to stay is sign that he is at very least willing to play by the rules... I do however think that a Mod's decision should not be trivialized in such a way... 2 months was the load I think he should sit it... and if he REALLY is rehibilitated then he will have learned his lesson quickly and will return in 60 days and not make infractions again.

If what he said is true and he was never contacted before moderation, and if he has a good reason for doing what he did that got him the 60 day ban then maybe it could be discussed by the Mods and Admins and maybe reach a fitting punishment.

All that being said I will again state I am okay with the decisions of the Mods that gave the 60 day Moderation.

QSM


i linked her post on the issue- it wasn't nearly as dramatic of an argument as you seem to remember. your memory also fails you equally with regard to my disagreement with plasticine.


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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:05:08 AM   
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Winning.....hahahahh

Fucking hell, Kid!
Pull your head out of your fucking arse and come up for air!

You're on <awaiting approval>

You won fuck all, Low Life.

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:05:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

You aren't getting it. You are being seriously Dense.

quote:

It was mostly all jest and a friendly game of "cat and mouse" giving me some much needed exercise at trying to come up with decent comebacks in an obtuse and exorbitant manner.

Maybe it's just me, but I really enjoy picking on people that way... especially when I end up winning.


Do you not get that she did not LIKE what you were saying, she just didn't REACT to what you were saying. She found what you had to say Obtuse and Exorbitantly Mannered..... Do you think these are GOOD things?

What you Implied to her, when you said she was basically an Idiot for going to another country for a Master was SO OUT OF LINE. You just don't get it.

You really are Vapid.... this is also not a compliment, look it up.... Just because she didn't get a rise out of you DOES NOT MAKE WHAT YOU DID OKAY.

If you cannot get this then there has been no rehibilitation, all this nice shit is Bullshit, and you deserve far more than 60 days. You should leave... and the fact that someone has to point this out to you is a sign of your inability to tell the difference between acceptable and unacceptable.

QSM


we will put you in the (minority) camp of posters who do not wish for me to stay. thank you for your contribution to this thread.

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:06:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22
2) of course i want to communicate with you. i think a lack of communication is the source of any problems that we had. i assumed based on my experience on other boards that moderation was reserved for worst case scenarios. i also assumed that i would be warned when i came close to having problematic conduct. if i would have known you had problems with me, i would definitely have found a way to make it right.


Kid, if any of that is true, you got a raw deal, moderation should be progressive and educational, not reactive and over the top. Many of your posts violated the TOS for the forums but for whatever reason, that was overlooked.

I gotta call bullshit on this. I saw submale's posts on moderation just a week ago, then they came through immediately for a few days, now they are on mod again. Does it really count as "no warning" when someone just off moderation breaks TOS again??


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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:07:02 AM   
submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: BentUnit

Winning.....hahahahh

Fucking hell, Kid!
Pull your head out of your fucking arse and come up for air!

You're on <awaiting approval>

You won fuck all, Low Life.



winning what? im confused by what you are talking about.

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