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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 11:54:25 AM

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I all sincerity, you might comprehend the difference between ourselves by: (1) considering what your avatar represents (MDMA); (2) reading my profile before asking; and (3) reading the full text of Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003) to understand what real boundaries are all about in the U.S.

Lawrence v. Texas

The point is, evberybody cannot do whatever they want, whenever they want to, and all get along.

For example, if one goes to a club and a room is labeled "no watersports," do you do it anyway? CM is like a cyberclub, and this room has its label. I for one, try my best to respect the labels, unlike some others here or in a physical club.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 12:01:22 PM

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aldompdx, so domina's that post on the master board are trolls?

When the site rules are that we are to stay in our titled sectors, I think you might have a point. Until then you sound like you are insulting people who have a site given right to do what they do.

I have agreed with a lot you have said in the past, but this one I cannot hang with.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 12:06:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Have you also noticed that responses also come from switches, subs and slaves? The categories are not necessarily existing to indicate who is expected to answer, but more as a way of determining where to place a question.

Anyone can post a question or response regardless of what side of the kneel they might fall on. Take note as well that while a select few will use honorifics in the forums, most don't, nor is the need to felt.

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And, by the way, IMO that should've / could've / would've been [/thread]

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 12:07:57 PM

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I'm sorry....what does decriminalizing sodomy have to do with this?

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 12:16:16 PM

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Which is exactly why some are so busy "Mastering themselves" that they aren't being called "Master" by anyone else.

Those stones being thrown aren't looking quite so good. Oddly enough, conversation was a good enough reason for posts in other sections of these boards. Nobody makes these kinds of remarks about folks not involved in a poly household that they aren't welcome there or if they aren't a submissive to kindly take their ass out of that section. We don't wrap that up in genitalia and there is no reason to do it here.

For the record, not once in My time here on CM have I ever told anyone that their comments weren't welcome on the Ask A Mistress section because they don't possess a pussy. Truthfully, I'd rather see more Dominants cross the gender lines rather than be scared or afraid to have their voice be heard. If someone is too much of a coward to speak, that is a fault of their own. Not Mine.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 2:14:49 PM

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how do you feel about female dominants inserting their opinions in your Ask A Master forum?

Who gives a fuck who answers, the answer is either worthwhile or not regardless of the gender of the one who posts it. And what makes you think it is "our" forum...it belongs to all

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 2:28:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Which is exactly why some are so busy "Mastering themselves" that they aren't being called "Master" by anyone else.

Those stones being thrown aren't looking quite so good. Oddly enough, conversation was a good enough reason for posts in other sections of these boards. Nobody makes these kinds of remarks about folks not involved in a poly household that they aren't welcome there or if they aren't a submissive to kindly take their ass out of that section. We don't wrap that up in genitalia and there is no reason to do it here.

For the record, not once in My time here on CM have I ever told anyone that their comments weren't welcome on the Ask A Mistress section because they don't possess a pussy. Truthfully, I'd rather see more Dominants cross the gender lines rather than be scared or afraid to have their voice be heard. If someone is too much of a coward to speak, that is a fault of their own. Not Mine.

If somebody doesn't know crap about what it takes to Master another, they can wrap themselves up in the fact that they have a flesh and blood cock all they want. That little thing between someone's legs doesn't mean shit.

LadyPact,

You nailed it on the head. Well stated!

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 4:02:44 PM

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Mr. Aldompdx,

Maybe I need to take a closer look at Lawrence v. Texas (or you do) as the landmark decision moved the American legal system further outside of the private, sexual lives of the average American. Meaning that we got more rights to do more of what we want, when and where we want to do it rather than implying that we can't do what we want, when and where we want.

If you're referencing the series of events that lead up to the ruling of Lawrence v. Texas, you're going to find that said series of events were determined as unjust and unconstitutional; hence, why the laws in a great number of states changed.

This is likely the weakest argument I've ever read to support separation of space. Camaraderie, security, all of that...I get and respect. What you've put out there as a justification just looks like a stab in the dark with using a dramatically important SCOTUS decision in the favor of the people against a moral minority.

Just sayin....

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 5:30:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: aldompdx

AQSM:

I all sincerity, you might comprehend the difference between ourselves by: (1) considering what your avatar represents (MDMA); (2) reading my profile before asking; and (3) reading the full text of Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003) to understand what real boundaries are all about in the U.S.

Lawrence v. Texas

The point is, evberybody cannot do whatever they want, whenever they want to, and all get along.

For example, if one goes to a club and a room is labeled "no watersports," do you do it anyway? CM is like a cyberclub, and this room has its label. I for one, try my best to respect the labels, unlike some others here or in a physical club.

Okay.... um..... What the Fuck does anything above have to do with anything that I just said?

First off I think the Smilie Face was around Long Before Extasy, I doubt that Wal-Mart is a conspiracy for drug use.

Second off, I responed to what you said, didn't think I needed to read your profile to respond to something that was written in this thread, don't need much background to say "Hey I think where you took this question borders on Obsession and wonder if you do this offten?"

And Finally, Your legal Statute DOES NOT apply to the Fucking Internet which is ALL I was discussing there Chief.

Seriously man, read the words that are typed not the ones you think you see between the lines.

QSM

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 5:37:42 PM

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Why does it matter what label someone wears as long as they have something to imput into the conversation? I personally think that only the insecure try and control who responds to their questions asked on these forums.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 6:00:06 PM

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Powers that be have made it clear multiple times that any member may post in any forum here.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 6:02:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

how do you feel about female dominants inserting their opinions in your Ask A Master forum?

Is it really true?

Are there really women who no matter what the setting feel they have to comment?

That is just absurd. I do not believe it.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 6:14:18 PM

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From the thread http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2974517&key=dear%2Cdominants

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Let Me go on record here (again) by first saying that I really enjoy CM. I like the layout. I like a good number of the regular posters here. Threads and discussion are pretty darn easy to follow. There aren't endless groups that can be created over and over with only two or three folks belonging to them. However, I tend to think at times that we may have benefited to an extent if some folks didn't take the gender lines quite so seriously when addressing topics to Dominants.

Yes, there are some topics that are gender specific. I don't think it's as many as other folks are led to believe. Often when reading a question that gets asked in the Ask A Master or Ask A Mistress section, I have to wonder why the person who posted the question only wants half the answers? After all, they are only addressing half of the Dominants when they are doing so. They can potentially be missing out on some of the answers they could have been provided had they asked all of the Dominants, rather than just those who happen to be male or happen to be female. The cross posting thing is a no-no (which I agree on) so this can be limiting on posting the same question on both boards.

I'm not suggesting that CM redesign itself. As I've said there are some topics that are gender specific. What I'm getting at is that there is so much out there related to Dominance that's not gender specific at all. Sadism, humiliation, control, authority, inspiring submission, punishment, on, and on, and on that honestly aren't related to whether or not the Dominant you are asking has a penis or not. In many cases, it's nothing but a benefit to ask both genders of Dominants, as you'll get a wider variety of answers from both perspectives.

I'm wondering about how other folks feel about this? Do you find that many of the topics posted to one gender board or another, would have been better suited to the main board where both would more likely be heard? In writing either questions or replies on CM, how seriously do you take the gender guidelines of the Master/Mistress boards?

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 7:32:52 PM

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I have always thought that information is more important than what title the person has who gives the info. The submissive accountant is going to have better financial information than the dominant artist. (Generally speaking, don't give me the "if they are educated in" nonsense... you know what I mean). Also, somebody asks about the Doms, and I talk to him about it. I'm capable of conveying that.

Plus, shockingly, sometimes people lie about who they are. *gasp*

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 7:38:33 PM

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Okay Lawrence v. Texas? Holy MOLY!

I do wish more of the mens would come over to the Mistress zone. I suspect lots of them have ~ahem~ opinions.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 7:55:00 PM

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I recall someone making a similar charge sometime ago in the Master's forum when submissives replied to a thread. The individual only wanted male responses and was upset that our opinions didn't offer the feedback she sought. I have never understood the propensity some have of attempting to dictate the behaviors of adults they've never encountered nor yield any influence or authority over. It's like a Napoleon Dynamite keyboard syndrome that transforms that person into Mister Superbad. It must be really hard when you don't have anyone to boss around. I guess you go looking for unwitting participants in unsuspecting places.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 8:27:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
I do wish more of the mens would come over to the Mistress zone. I suspect lots of them have ~ahem~ opinions.

Actually LH, I do go over there regularly (LP woo'd me over *chuckles). But honestly, I seldom have opinions. For the most part, the questions and comments posted there are just not really anything I have any knowledge about.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 9:34:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

Gentlemen-
Seeing frequent posts from Dommes in this category has me wondering...how do you feel about female dominants inserting their opinions in your Ask A Master forum?

Best,
MDA

Hello MistressDarkArt. How do I feel? uhhhhh....uhhhhhhhhhh......uhhhhhh? (sweat coming to temples, moist hands...) uhhhhhhh......uhhhhhhhhhh.......uhhhhhhhhh......ok! I got it! I feeeeeeel that any biological sentient being should be able to do what said ''person'' wants to do, as long as the moderators do not disapprove. No, that is not what I feel, that is not even what I think. But it is run of the mill gender neutral think that the pc police loves.

This is what makes for passionate debate? Cyber social ''equality''? Sure! uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... (no, I do not know.)

Ok, I will answer the loaded question now. I sometimes ''feel'' amused. Other times I ''feel'' annoyed. Most of the time I ''feel'' bored by the gender policing thingie. Someone gets asked for an opinion then immediately that person is told it's answer (how they ''feel'') is not worth consideration because it is not gender neutral specific.

If someone ask's ''gentlemen'' how they feel? It is a gender specific question which should warrant a gender specific answer from the five (or six?) sexes. But what we get invariably is gender politics which transforms an opportunity of getting useful rare insights into the usual (repetitive) boring rhetoric which as been invoked as the politically correct way of protesting against gender labels.

For the record, I am against gender labels. For the record I am against gender specific forums. For the record I am for letting people say what they feel and respecting that feeling in the poster's context. That would encourage participation and debate.

There is a difference between what one feels and thinks. There will always be those who seek ''political opportunity'' in any question or response. I think we should tone it down (moderate?) and try being ''feeling'' specific, ''opinion'' specific, ''advice'' specific in order to be more ''subject'' oriented debate specific. ''Specifically'' my gender neutral two cents. RL

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 10:29:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan
At the end of the day... this is a Conversation Forum.... If we don't require someone to prove that they are in fact a Master, or a Submissive, or a General then why would we limit anyone's ability to post to a question that interests them.. Seriously what is the point in getting upset about it.

Winner. Is this like a "for real" debate? It has all of the trappings of one. Yet somehow it is also an immense waste of time.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/9/2010 11:58:40 PM

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Actually a few years ago I waded in and responded to a couple of discussions in both the Mistresses and Switches Forums and got blasted and told I know nothing about how both Mistresses and Switches think or live as well as being told it was not my place to post there. It never stopped me but I did block a number of folks who were abusing me on 'tother side. That I tend to stay away is for the same reason I stopped posting in the Gorean Forum after I left that lifestyle...It just didn't feel the right thing to do unless there was something I believed I could offer some expertise.

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