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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 5:09:37 AM

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Anyone may post on this thread, or any thread in any forum.
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Thank you very much for clarifying how to respectfully conduct one's self on CollarChat. It is "your house" and your parameters should be respected.

To everybody else -- the squeeky wheel got the grease. Sincere apologies if it ruffled any feathers.

Dude! This was pointed out by several other posters previous to the Mod's post.

You were wrong. You still are wrong and the manner in which you expressed your wrongness was childish at the very least.

If by "Master" your standard is "Mastering yourself" you, Sir, have a *very* long ways to go. Your ability to respect the opinions and identities of others regardless of gender is damn near a third world quality piece of work.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 5:40:43 AM

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Honest. To the point. Polite. Concise!

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 11:27:48 AM

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After reading the replies to the OP, and the additional efforts to justify anything that could promote a Politically Correct reply, and some very simple feminine peer pressure points of view, I still do not see anything that actually gives a reply to the OP.

I do not have a humble opinion, nor one that is PC so I can be seen as sensitive or in tune with some (insert cosmic harmony of your choice) thus I have only My thoughts on the issue...

Ask a Master and get answers from a Master/Dominant Male, if I wanted to ask a Mistress then I would go to that forum set for Domme's and get a reply from a Domme/Dominant Female...

Basically, Cm tried to sort the Gender issue out with a simple naming of the Group, and their effort should have been very effective but for the persistence of those who are not Male Dominants, the result is the drowning of every question in the group by those who are not Male Dominants...

Maybe I should go start replying to questions in every forum group here and see how long it takes to gain statistics as to why the hell I was pushing in to a place I was not required to be in, well that was PC wasn't it....

If you want to be PC, go to general discussion, but if your tired of trying to get a word in on a question asked of you as a Male Dominant, grow a spine and state it...

Oh and for those who are primed to fire... does a vagina give you the right to be a female but reply to something asked of a Male Dominant? or is it just the Male having a penis that allows those who have already clearly stated their opinion on that being why we are called Male....

As ever for all who take exception... IDGARA

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 11:45:47 AM

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I remember a time when on the mistress board, there was a day or would come a day when some femdom would jump the bones of any male who posted there. Who were the ones that set things straight? The other femdom's. The site rules or allowances are the first rule of the day, but after that and even still, most of us loved the input of all people. Some of these women had some feeling that submissive's or even male's were inferior and didn't want them speaking until spoken to. They found no value in what they had to say unless what they said was in agreement to what they believed.

Then there were male dominant's that posted more in master and mistress. Some came to bully others on the mistress board, to show us we were simply out of order and really just needed to find the right man and be put in our rightful place of submissive... most likely to them personally. There were flames and arguments with the cocky attitude that we domina's were all alike and needed to be fixed. They knew better!

Some male dominants were very welcome, just as we welcomed anyone else. Not because they agreed with us, but because even in disagreeing, they weren't disrespectful and trying to fit us into a category of where they thought women should be. We welcomed men on the mistress board and still do. I love it when I see a male dominant posting there!

To this day when someone comes around that says... I wasn't asking you, I specifically asked for the opinions of femdom's and you shouldn't be posting here, this is the mistress board... you will see a feeding frenzy of domina's setting someone straight.

My former husband (idiot) used to do big business in our home for which I was hostess with the mostest. Million dollar deals were being made in my home as I went about preparing food, seeing to everyone's comfort and then we would party. I would speak up and most the men loved that I spoke with intelligence, humor and added to the fun. My husband would get so pissed because he wasn't the center of attraction. I would be pulled aside and insulted... the lights are on, but nobody is home, no one wants to hear you. So one night I went back to the room where everyone was, shut up and only spoke when spoken to. One man asked why I had changed right in front of my husband. I looked at my husband and said... the lights are on, nobody is home and no one wants to hear what I say. My husband learned a good lesson that night.

Besides not telling a woman to shut up because of his own ego or insecurities... some men value what a woman has to say in any setting and some men lose business when others see them treat (their) women that way.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 11:56:02 AM

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Oh for God's sake, are we still debating this?

Simply put, some people are going to do what they do, and the others won't. There will be those that snigger either to themselves or make a scene on the boards. Some people will leave never to return. Others will stay for whatever reason we're here.

In the end, nothing will change, and that's probably for the best.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 12:06:05 PM

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After reading the replies to the OP, and the additional efforts to justify anything that could promote a Politically Correct reply, and some very simple feminine peer pressure points of view, I still do not see anything that actually gives a reply to the OP.

I do not have a humble opinion, nor one that is PC so I can be seen as sensitive or in tune with some (insert cosmic harmony of your choice) thus I have only My thoughts on the issue...

Ask a Master and get answers from a Master/Dominant Male, if I wanted to ask a Mistress then I would go to that forum set for Domme's and get a reply from a Domme/Dominant Female...

Basically, Cm tried to sort the Gender issue out with a simple naming of the Group, and their effort should have been very effective but for the persistence of those who are not Male Dominants, the result is the drowning of every question in the group by those who are not Male Dominants...

Maybe I should go start replying to questions in every forum group here and see how long it takes to gain statistics as to why the hell I was pushing in to a place I was not required to be in, well that was PC wasn't it....

If you want to be PC, go to general discussion, but if your tired of trying to get a word in on a question asked of you as a Male Dominant, grow a spine and state it...

Oh and for those who are primed to fire... does a vagina give you the right to be a female but reply to something asked of a Male Dominant? or is it just the Male having a penis that allows those who have already clearly stated their opinion on that being why we are called Male....

As ever for all who take exception... IDGARA

I'd say that being "PC" wasn't the goal the Leather community when using any term to distinguish self identities of the community members.

So you might want to add..."being historically accurate in terms of the counterculture that beget mainstream SM" with being "PC" or "sensitive".

Cuz...for some of us...the historical accuracy thing is far more important than the politically correct, sensitive, or "I'm correct simply because I have a penis" stuff.

I'm sure we'll see you at the Woodshed or some place else in which you'll further humiliate yourself by making such statements. In fact, feel free to join us at your almost local national event in Ft. Lauderdale next April, where one of the producers (and local MAsT organizers) is a female Master and inform her of your theory. I'll be standing by with popcorn.

Just sayin.

boi

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 12:11:46 PM

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Oh I so do hope the former husbands, the idiot as you call him, money that you enjoyed through his efforts of how he did business, and the subsequent funds you walked away with, do not preclude you from feeling to sad at his efforts, nor his ability to have provided for you in any way shape or form...

Your statement of how you applied your witty intellect in front of those who paid the bills, and the obvious loss of the idiot's position by those attending after your so wonderful a display,.... you should be proud of yourself for your upstanding effort... did they gather round you and give you the million dollar deals after this , i do hope so and I am sure they are continuing to tribute you alone with their millions in deals ....

And how many Males on here you have just shown your true colors to as to how your mindset really is.... screw the idiot, I got all I needed and already had a plan to exit, now who is next to bleed as I want them to... thank you for your open minded statement of how to bite the hand that fed you, destroy his position for your own gains, brief as they were, and making off like a bandit.... with the idiots money

I know ever Male reading your story, be he vanilla or Dominant, lifestyle or not, just placed you on that most honored of positions.... we know exactly what she will do... as with all positions, welcome to your self made outcomes...

LS

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 12:13:07 PM

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In response to the OP, I have a related question (yes, I know... it's rude to answer a question with a question, and I accept responsibility for having done so.) -- why bother separating male dominant and female dominant at all? Why not just have a dominant's board, like there is a submissive's board, and let the question determine whether the response needs to be gender specific or not?

(Maybe this has already been covered... if so, I apologize).

Calla

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 12:22:31 PM

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The lack of any form of depth to your comments boi, but their obvious focus on simplistic sarcasm, are treated with the same disdain I feel for your trying to sell clips of yourself as a tag line... right... your so historically accurate and so refined within your sphere in whatever tribute earning scheme your devoted to, and without doubt someone whom I will remember as a prime example of what happens when random thoughts are allowed to gestate at the wrong end of the gene pool....

just sayin...

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 12:26:21 PM

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Oh I so do hope the former husbands, the idiot as you call him, money that you enjoyed through his efforts of how he did business, and the subsequent funds you walked away with, do not preclude you from feeling to sad at his efforts, nor his ability to have provided for you in any way shape or form...

Your statement of how you applied your witty intellect in front of those who paid the bills, and the obvious loss of the idiot's position by those attending after your so wonderful a display,.... you should be proud of yourself for your upstanding effort... did they gather round you and give you the million dollar deals after this , i do hope so and I am sure they are continuing to tribute you alone with their millions in deals ....

And how many Males on here you have just shown your true colors to as to how your mindset really is.... screw the idiot, I got all I needed and already had a plan to exit, now who is next to bleed as I want them to... thank you for your open minded statement of how to bite the hand that fed you, destroy his position for your own gains, brief as they were, and making off like a bandit.... with the idiots money

I know ever Male reading your story, be he vanilla or Dominant, lifestyle or not, just placed you on that most honored of positions.... we know exactly what she will do... as with all positions, welcome to your self made outcomes...

LS

LOL... you got burned didn't you? Dude you have no idea what you are talking about. But then you would have to know me! Half the money made was BECAUSE of ME! lol You think I didn't work with those people? You think I didn't run crews or answer the phones, run the office and go to the main office leaving our children to others less than I, for their care? You think I was wrong to stand up for myself? To not allow him to belittle me because if not for me, he wouldn't have any business? I was not a kept woman! So take your scolding to someone who might deserve it.

As a matter of fact, when I had to actually run from the man... I took nothing but the kids who were nothing but a bargaining tool to him. We left with nothing but the clothes on our backs, without even coats and it was a cold, hard Michigan winter. The man took what was of value to him, sold anything he could so I couldn't get anything, which all I wanted was some equipment so I could work and support the family and he ran away. The kids haven't seen him since and I didn't see a child support check until the youngest was sixteen and that wasn't based on what he made, but a false disability until we were through court all those years ago.

So yes, now... finally... I take his money on past due child support... a whole big... lump sum of less than five hundred a month and I will never get all he owes in child support even on the small amount he was ordered to pay which was under two hundred a month for three children.

So take your assumptions and put them in the first part of that word. lol

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 12:28:19 PM

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The lack of any form of depth to your comments boi, but their obvious focus on simplistic sarcasm, are treated with the same disdain I feel for your trying to sell clips of yourself as a tag line... right... your so historically accurate and so refined within your sphere in whatever tribute earning scheme your devoted to, and without doubt someone whom I will remember as a prime example of what happens when random thoughts are allowed to gestate at the wrong end of the gene pool....

just sayin...

IDGARA

Yes, yes, you've gotten to the core of my need. I'm only focused on handing over every single dime I have to a Domme because she tells me to and Lockit is just conniving bitch who ran down her husband's business dealings with no actual means of standing on her own. we get...females can't do a damned thing for themselves.

Now, how about addressing the historical context mentioned with a rebuttal instead of using a very weak attempt at redirection? (Or "Red Herring" as the fallacy of your argument)

boi

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 12:32:13 PM

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In response to the OP, I have a related question (yes, I know... it's rude to answer a question with a question, and I accept responsibility for having done so.) -- why bother separating male dominant and female dominant at all? Why not just have a dominant's board, like there is a submissive's board, and let the question determine whether the response needs to be gender specific or not?

(Maybe this has already been covered... if so, I apologize).

Calla

I agree with this totally, although I'm unaware if there is any board history that led to the seperation originally.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 12:43:30 PM

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I agree with this totally, although I'm unaware if there is any board history that led to the seperation originally.

Also agreed, as has been My position from the beginning.

Now on to this:

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Basically, Cm tried to sort the Gender issue out with a simple naming of the Group, and their effort should have been very effective but for the persistence of those who are not Male Dominants, the result is the drowning of every question in the group by those who are not Male Dominants...

Precisely, what is the 'gender issue'? I have absolutely no idea of why there should be one only when it concerns Dominants.

The deal is, the thread does not belong only to male Dominants. It also doesn't belong to the OP. It is here for anyone to discuss the topic regardless of their gender or orientation. Truthfully, if some people don't like it, they may just have to learn to deal with it.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 12:54:54 PM

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In response to the OP, I have a related question (yes, I know... it's rude to answer a question with a question, and I accept responsibility for having done so.) -- why bother separating male dominant and female dominant at all? Why not just have a dominant's board, like there is a submissive's board, and let the question determine whether the response needs to be gender specific or not?

This is, of course, just one man's opinion. But I am glad there are separate sections for the male dom vs. fem dom world. Honestly, I can't cope with the constant male bashing that goes on over in the ask a mistress section. If that spilled out to the entirety of CM, I'd leave the site.

Don't get me wrong. I get it that this behavior is apparently normal for that segment and hey, if it works then fine. But I'm glad that it isn't everywhere. For me, the ask a mistress board serves the useful purpose of keeping that crap mostly contained.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 1:03:09 PM

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In addition MasterLSOne... where do you think my husband got the money to start that business??? My family... my inheritance... my hard work and contacts. Guess who ruined that company and then almost the second one, which I turned around in one week, got the contracts back in order and crews out working with me right beside them... and then he sold most the equipment just before I had to run? He lost all the money or hid it. He now lives in two states with two residences and did all along, while his children and I later, did without because he stole all I had. I was the fool... I married him... it was a costly venture.

However, I love my life and had a great one. My first cause in life was fathers rights. My second was domestic abuse and homelessness. I decided to make that my future and did very well, until I got ill.

I have never taken a man's money, but one sure got mine.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 1:03:44 PM

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Precisely, what is the 'gender issue'? I have absolutely no idea of why there should be one only when it concerns Dominants.

The deal is, the thread does not belong only to male Dominants. It also doesn't belong to the OP. It is here for anyone to discuss the topic regardless of their gender or orientation. Truthfully, if some people don't like it, they may just have to learn to deal with it.

I think he is saying........ you hit like a girl!

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 1:11:43 PM

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This is, of course, just one man's opinion. But I am glad there are separate sections for the male dom vs. fem dom world. Honestly, I can't cope with the constant male bashing that goes on over in the ask a mistress section. If that spilled out to the entirety of CM, I'd leave the site.

Don't get me wrong. I get it that this behavior is apparently normal for that segment and hey, if it works then fine. But I'm glad that it isn't everywhere. For me, the ask a mistress board serves the useful purpose of keeping that crap mostly contained.

Jeff, I'm not entirely sure that you are seeing the whole picture here. This 'male bashing' that you see on the Mistress board, are you quite sure that it is because they are male? Is it possible that it is due to the lack of character for such situations as folks who come here in hopes of cheating on their wife or because they've seen too much porn and think Dominant women are looking to fuck everything with a dick?

If anything, I'm sure there are folks out there who are glad the boards are separate. Most of the male Dominants would get completely sick of the 12,357 poster who's first post is to ask who would like to fuck him with a strapon or how 'serving' means that they are willing to provide oral sex. Quite frankly, I don't think the male Dominants would put up with that any better than the females.

Maybe, you can show Me where the difference lies. It seems to Me that there have been plenty of threads in this section (Ask A Master) that have complained regarding scams. This is almost always related to men getting frustrated over being contacted by those with a submissive female profile. How come nobody ever calls that woman bashing?

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 1:13:54 PM

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I think he is saying........ you hit like a girl!

That just means I'm smart enough to get toys that leave a bigger impact.

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 1:20:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff
I think he is saying........ you hit like a girl!

That just means I'm smart enough to get toys that leave a bigger impact.

Hey...that girl....stop giving him ideas!

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RE: Dommes Posting in "Ask A Master" - 7/12/2010 1:22:14 PM

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Let Me think about that.

Hmmmmm.

No.

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