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Termyn8or -> Moron ! (7/12/2010 12:54:00 PM)

This post it not what you think.

Now we see people on the board here bandying words like moron about, apparently not understand their meaning. Well there are clinical definitions for the words idiot, moron and imbecile. Now I might be a bit off (another subject actuallly) but if memory serves it goes something like this :

Normal is 80-100 IQ
Idiot is up to 70 IQ
Moron is up to 50 IQ
Imbecile is up to 30 IQ.

Again I might be a little off, but that's not the point. People misuse these words in a real life arguments, and understanding the "heat" generated I can understand that. It happens to the best of us, those times that the last word of the sentence was better left unsaid. But how the fuck do you type in anger ? OK this has happened to me but it has been rare. But people, some people do it all the time.

If you are one to use those words frequently how do you justify it ? You used a word without knowing it's meaning, what does that say about you ?

What's more if you do posess a higher intelligence or superior knowledge on a subject, it is your duty to help others. Intelligence is a gift from the maker of all things, and as such should be shared, such as other superior qualities any and each of us might posess. One must make the distinction also between stupidity and ignorance. Stupidity can be cured by learning, ignorant people don't want to learn because they think they know it all. More on ignorance some other time.

But remember, the words that we priveledged are able to type into this PUBLIC forum live in perpetuity, and each and every one of us can be proven wrong at a later date. And your bullshit is regurgitated to the top of the list once someone responds, perhaps three years later.

Think about it, this is not an elementary school playground, as much as we might like it to be. Name calling is the most detestable form of expression I have found in human beings, as that I see it as a last resort for a fucking loser.

But there are always some who gain some sort of satisfaction frome typing the words "you moron" or something, not realizing that they can only represent themselves with words. Think about it some more.

An old Man told me, his name was John Fletcher and he is dead now, and he said "The problem with most people is that they start running their mouth without engaging their brain". Despite being dead, he is another one who gets smarter every day.

This is the Father of the Man who now owns the farm to which I occasionally refer. And I really don't know what to think, he hung himself in the barn after the death of his one and only Wife. Bitch about it all you want but I can see why,,,,, just maybe. He was not the type to take the easy way out. I would never call him a coward like others might, because I knew him and knew he wasn't. Plus he was as old as dirt.

Anyway, fuck all that. I just hope that we can settle a bit, give more thought, and correspond more efficiently here. I have learned a few things, and so have others.

Sometimes it is so simple :

"I am thirsty"
"Get something to drink"
OR
"I am thirsty"
"Get something to drink you moron"

In the latter instance there are nine keystrokes that were uncalled for, and totally useless, except in the case of an example such as I have given. Got it ?

T




tazzygirl -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 12:57:44 PM)

You aren't far off T.

"Moron" was coined in 1910 by psychologist Henry H. Goddard[3] from the Ancient Greek word μωρός (moros), which meant "dull"[4] (as opposed to "sharp"), and used to describe a person with a mental age in adulthood of between 8 and 12 on the Binet scale.[5] It was once applied to people with an IQ of 51-70, being superior in one degree to "imbecile" (IQ of 26-50) and superior in two degrees to "idiot" (IQ of 0-25). The word moron, along with others including, "idiotic," "imbecilic," "stupid," and "feeble-minded," was formerly considered a valid descriptor in the psychological community, but it is now deprecated in use by psychologists.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moron_(psychology)




Termyn8or -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 12:59:53 PM)

Damn that was fast. You wanna come work for me ?

T




tazzygirl -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:06:25 PM)

~grins

How much ya payin?




Termyn8or -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:08:47 PM)

< grins even bigger !




DCWoody -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:11:32 PM)

No Termy, a hundred years ago some psychologists tried to put definitions on these word, but they didn't stick....these days they just mean what people use them for.




Termyn8or -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:23:47 PM)

I can't buy that Woody, because there are too many ramifications. Words written then must be understood. That is precisely what is wrong now. Shall means maybe. Not means until we feel like. Be means anything you want. Infringed means absolutely nothing. (note words from the second inclusive)

No, if we dismiss the words of old, we dismiss the whole of human learning up to this point. So Og, go out and invent me a fucking wheel. Just get it done, we have a deadline to meet. And you won't be saved by the bell. You start this words don't mean what they mean shit it just opens the whole thing up for some very effective and noconsentual abuse. I cannot accept that and wish you wouldn't as well..

T




DCWoody -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:27:07 PM)

Gah. I can't even understand that and I've a feel I don't want to, way too much pointless arguing semantics in casual banter. When I call someone an idiot, I know what I mean, they know what I mean...and YOU know what I mean. Don't give a fuck what some guy wrote about the word idiot 100 years ago.




tazzygirl -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:28:11 PM)

To me, an idiot wouldnt have the IQ to post on a forum. Guess we all dont know what you mean, Woody.




pahunkboy -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:29:14 PM)

It is a turn off to me- when those labels are used.

In a way- it makes the accuser look even worse then the accused.

IMO-  I try to take the high road.




LadyPact -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:31:05 PM)

Termy, I want to ask you a heartfelt question.  Does this really have to do with the definition of the word or your own personal experience of something from your youth?

I'll be the first to grant you that people should understand the meaning of words.  At the same time, I think you're bringing some of your own personal history into it.  I could be mistaken, but I think you have just as much problem with the context than the word itself.




divi -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:31:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

To me, an idiot wouldnt have the IQ to post on a forum. Guess we all dont know what you mean, Woody.

Are you sure about that tazzy lol ?




DCWoody -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:32:17 PM)

If I called you an idiot you'd think I meant you had an IQ <70?

Bollocks. You're just arguing semantics to be awkward, it's an extremely common word universally understood to mean 'lacking intelligence'...nobody...anywhere....uses idiot as a technical term meaning 50<IQ<70.




tazzygirl -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:33:04 PM)

awww come on divi! dont bring up the past! i have ran across more than one idiot in "gor" rooms, but i had enough sense and decorum not to call them that (to their textual faces at least)

[:D]




DCWoody -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:34:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

awww come on divi! dont bring up the past! i have ran across more than one idiot in "gor" rooms, but i had enough sense and decorum not to call them that (to their textual faces at least)

[:D]


Well I reckon that illustrates my point, so I'm off :)




tazzygirl -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:35:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DCWoody

If I called you an idiot you'd think I meant you had an IQ <70?

Bollocks. You're just arguing semantics to be awkward, it's an extremely common word universally understood to mean 'lacking intelligence'...nobody...anywhere....uses idiot as a technical term meaning 50<IQ<70.



Actually, when in a debate of any kind, using words like "idiot" and "moron" tends to show me the intelligence of the person utilizing those words.

If you have to resort to attacking the poster with such mundane words, then you have already lost the war, imho.




heartcream -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:35:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or


Think about it, this is not an elementary school playground, as much as we might like it to be. Name calling is the most detestable form of expression I have found in human beings, as that I see it as a last resort for a fucking loser.








tazzygirl -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:36:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DCWoody

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

awww come on divi! dont bring up the past! i have ran across more than one idiot in "gor" rooms, but i had enough sense and decorum not to call them that (to their textual faces at least)

[:D]


Well I reckon that illustrates my point, so I'm off :)



In all honesty, i was making T's point, not yours. Ahem... just goes to show [;)]




mnottertail -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:43:24 PM)

and while we are on the subject maybe won't quite cut it for the word shall, that word carries an obligation with it (since its original meaning was debt owed) and at some point in its usage added the concept of future to it, so that it is closer in meaning to should. 




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Moron ! (7/12/2010 1:52:52 PM)

I got thrown off AOL for calling a moron a moron.  I figure in India it means your momma sucks cow dicks or something, cause the dude I talked to was furious about my "language".




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