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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/3/2010 6:44:35 AM   
texangael


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If not there wouldn't be a difference between a research scientist and a nun....
Who says there is?
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there wouldn't be a diffference between a serial killer and a hero.
The only difference there is one of perspective.
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some people have needs that are more intense than others, therefore they are called out of necessity to understand themselves more.
You are postulating a causal relationship between desire and introspection that is not proven.


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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/3/2010 8:14:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

But Bita, according to what I am reading here, those things you know about yourself (that you like music, for example), are not actually reality.  No matter what your life story is, what you have perceived and been proven wrong about, what views you have been open to and weighed against your life, what trials and errors you have lived, and so on...knowing yourself is not possible.




I'm going to start a new thread in off-topic so as not to highjack this thread as per the request of the mod so I'll answer this post there. To thine Own Self, be true.

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/3/2010 10:04:33 AM   
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to be honest, I don't think we're at that era yet...only on here. And let's be honest, most of the men we encounter on here are not exactly high quality, in fact, most are below average. It's not very surprising they don't have the intelligence, social skills, drive, or basic respect and breeding to approach women normally- anywhere, I'd assume. So I don't really care about their motivations anymore, I'm just here for the forums, to chat and complain ...heh


This!

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/3/2010 11:46:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: realwhiteknight

to be honest, I don't think we're at that era yet...only on here. And let's be honest, most of the men we encounter on here are not exactly high quality, in fact, most are below average. It's not very surprising they don't have the intelligence, social skills, drive, or basic respect and breeding to approach women normally- anywhere, I'd assume. So I don't really care about their motivations anymore, I'm just here for the forums, to chat and complain ...heh


This!

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Which leads to what conclusion about the women here?

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/3/2010 12:25:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: texangael

to be honest, I don't think we're at that era yet...only on here. And let's be honest, most of the men we encounter on here are not exactly high quality, in fact, most are below average. It's not very surprising they don't have the intelligence, social skills, drive, or basic respect and breeding to approach women normally- anywhere, I'd assume. So I don't really care about their motivations anymore, I'm just here for the forums, to chat and complain ...heh


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Which leads to what conclusion about the women here?


Some of us are wise enough to pick from better pastures.

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/3/2010 12:40:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: texangael
If not there wouldn't be a difference between a research scientist and a nun....
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Who says there is?


Um, everyone? Now I'd like to clarify what you are saying first, before writing you off into the limbo of insane internet crackpots (no offense) that I don't waste time with. Let me ask you, is there no reason for science then? Does it not 'work'? Then how do are we able to predict material behaviors (physics I mean) based on formulas we've devised based on logic and math, and then find those empirical predictions to have been accurate through experimentation?

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there wouldn't be a diffference between a serial killer and a hero.
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The only difference there is one of perspective.


Yeah that's twisted and idiotic.

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some people have needs that are more intense than others, therefore they are called out of necessity to understand themselves more.


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You are postulating a causal relationship between desire and introspection that is not proven.


I am ABSOLUTELY postulating a causal relationship between desire and introspection, which is predictably true, but can NOT be proven.

Interestingly, *you* are postulating a causal relationship between introspection and self-awareness. *I* said self-awareness and understanding, NOT introspection.





< Message edited by realwhiteknight -- 8/3/2010 12:54:11 PM >

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/3/2010 1:10:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: texangael


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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: realwhiteknight

to be honest, I don't think we're at that era yet...only on here. And let's be honest, most of the men we encounter on here are not exactly high quality, in fact, most are below average. It's not very surprising they don't have the intelligence, social skills, drive, or basic respect and breeding to approach women normally- anywhere, I'd assume. So I don't really care about their motivations anymore, I'm just here for the forums, to chat and complain ...heh


This!

~porcelaine


Which leads to what conclusion about the women here?



None. Use your logic.



< Message edited by realwhiteknight -- 8/3/2010 1:13:53 PM >

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/3/2010 1:12:03 PM   
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Which leads to what conclusion about the women here?

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Some of us are wise enough to pick from better pastures.

~porcelaine



hehehehe Exactly.

Also, that we can. Water seeks its own level. Wisdom seeks wisdom.

< Message edited by realwhiteknight -- 8/3/2010 1:13:18 PM >

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/3/2010 2:24:41 PM   
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Um, everyone? Now I'd like to clarify what you are saying first, before writing you off into the limbo of insane internet crackpots (no offense) that I don't waste time with. Let me ask you, is there no reason for science then? Does it not 'work'? Then how do are we able to predict material behaviors (physics I mean) based on formulas we've devised based on logic and math, and then find those empirical predictions to have been accurate through experimentation?

I will merely refer you to the history of the Institutum Divi Thomae as a starting point on how nuns can, are, and have been accomplished research scientists--thus rendering your distinction between the two absurd.

To build upon that false distinction into a diatribe positing "science" as inherently at odds with "religion" is mundane. Further commentary on that is not warranted.

< Message edited by texangael -- 8/3/2010 2:42:35 PM >

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/3/2010 2:37:25 PM   
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there wouldn't be a diffference between a serial killer and a hero.

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The only difference there is one of perspective.

Yeah that's twisted and idiotic.

Corporal Alvin C York was given the Medal of Honor for killing an impressive number of German soldiers in WWI.
Major Richard Bong was given the Medal of Honor for shooting down (and presumably killing) at least 40 Japanese pilots in WWII.
Theodore Robert Bundy was given the electric chair in Florida for killing approximately 35 women.

Two heroes, one serial killer, with little more than the context of their violence to distinguish among them.

Perspective.

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/3/2010 2:42:16 PM   
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I am ABSOLUTELY postulating a causal relationship between desire and introspection, which is predictably true, but can NOT be proven.

Interestingly, *you* are postulating a causal relationship between introspection and self-awareness. *I* said self-awareness and understanding, NOT introspection.

Specifically, you said:
quote:

some people have needs that are more intense than others, therefore they are called out of necessity to understand themselves more.

If you want to parse a distinction between a "calling" to understand oneself and "introspection", please flail away to your heart's content.

As to my asserting any relationship between introspection and self awareness, you are simply incorrect. I have made no such assertion.

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/3/2010 5:43:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: texangael

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Um, everyone? Now I'd like to clarify what you are saying first, before writing you off into the limbo of insane internet crackpots (no offense) that I don't waste time with. Let me ask you, is there no reason for science then? Does it not 'work'? Then how do are we able to predict material behaviors (physics I mean) based on formulas we've devised based on logic and math, and then find those empirical predictions to have been accurate through experimentation?

I will merely refer you to the history of the Institutum Divi Thomae as a starting point on how nuns can, are, and have been accomplished research scientists--thus rendering your distinction between the two absurd.

To build upon that false distinction into a diatribe positing "science" as inherently at odds with "religion" is mundane. Further commentary on that is not warranted.


Conflict between science and reigion has NOTHING to do with what I was saying, it was merely one example of how some personalities are better at being objective...trained scientists (nuns or not) are going to be able to be more objective about things that a person in a 'caring profession' is. Very simple- you missed the whole point and tried to pull the conversation into an entirely different tangent of science v. religion.


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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/3/2010 5:46:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: texangael

quote:


quote:

there wouldn't be a diffference between a serial killer and a hero.

quote:

The only difference there is one of perspective.

Yeah that's twisted and idiotic.

Corporal Alvin C York was given the Medal of Honor for killing an impressive number of German soldiers in WWI.
Major Richard Bong was given the Medal of Honor for shooting down (and presumably killing) at least 40 Japanese pilots in WWII.
Theodore Robert Bundy was given the electric chair in Florida for killing approximately 35 women.

Two heroes, one serial killer, with little more than the context of their violence to distinguish among them.

Perspective.


If you can't distinguish between the ethics or logic of murdering innocent people for pleasure and the tragedy of war, the murders of which are in self-defense, then you are a sad person.

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/4/2010 12:15:12 AM   
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If you can't distinguish between the ethics or logic of murdering innocent people for pleasure and the tragedy of war, the murders of which are in self-defense, then you are a sad person.
Context. Ethics. Logic.

Perspective.

You argue what I have already said.  Curious debating tactic.


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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/4/2010 4:14:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: texangael

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If you can't distinguish between the ethics or logic of murdering innocent people for pleasure and the tragedy of war, the murders of which are in self-defense, then you are a sad person.


Context. Ethics. Logic.

Perspective.

You argue what I have already said.  Curious debating tactic.



That doesn't even make sense. Not the tiniest bit. You threw 3 arbitrary new words out there to attempt to reinforce your alleged idea instead of attempting to negate my argument.

I was done debating in my last post, since I don't debate with people I consider to be well, what I outlined above. I have no interest in associating with people like that.

Now I am reiterating it to clarify.

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/4/2010 4:22:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		[quote As to my asserting any relationship between introspection and self awareness, you are simply incorrect. I have made no such assertion. [/quote

This:


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You are postulating a causal relationship between desire and introspection that is not proven.


See post 205.



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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/4/2010 5:52:19 AM   
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Because Men are visual creatures, and they think women think like they do and dont seem to understand how the female mind works?

Because they have the insane need to say look at me i could get someone to do xyz with me....?

Because they are idiots?

Because they lack common sense?

Because they dont like you and want to scare you off?

We do?  I had no Idea I did not know how the female mind works..I will send out a a Notice to all males immediately  to not bother trying to Dominate women as they have no clue what they are doing. Thank you oh great woman of widsdom for bringing this to everyone's  attention.

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/4/2010 6:35:50 AM   
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I have no interest in associating with people like that.
So you say.


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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/6/2010 9:54:24 AM   
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I don't see the big deal here, I really don't. It's just a picture. If you find him attractive and you like what is written, just friggin' ask why. I'm more curious about why people are jumping completely judge strangers so poorly by calling them insane. I've sent pictures of myself with others, whom I knew wouldn't mind, because it was a great picture that really expressed my personality. That theirs happened to be BDSM-themed doesn't really bug me.


Finally some voice of reason in this thread. Reading this thread is like going to a bar and hearing all the woman complain "there arn't any good men to be found!" Jesus if this is your beef, it's no wonder. Stop sweating the small stuff. Read what he has to say. Talk to him to see if there is some interest. To judge him by a picture with another? Give me a break. At least he is putting himself out there. Many woman don't even give that courtesy. Even those of you on this thread. Some of you don't even have a damn profile.

How many times do I come across a females profile where she states "the woman in the profile is not me". Do I judge her? No, I read the damn profile if her tag line caught my eye and find out more about her.

I have a slave, so my pictures are usually with her. There is one in particular that I have received numerous positive comments on, mostly by WOMEN. So some of you actually like the pictures.

Aramis

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RE: Why do Doms...???? - 8/13/2010 12:02:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		As a Master I personally would not do this. As it is degrading and humiliating to the sub/slave. Master's/Dom's that do this should be forced to reverse rolls for a day and their pictures spread across the internet.
Although there are some sub/slaves that like to be brandished like a cheap slut. To them I say more power to you. If I ask for pic's I just want to see the slave in them, not the M/S act's. As I don't care what your old Master has done to you. It is a turn of to me.

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